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Stupid for not showing her boobs or not stupid

  • 07-09-2011 11:23am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 483 ✭✭


    I think she had a good opportunity here and she' s blown it. HBO would be a decent company and anyone that's watch Oz, The Wire, etc will know that they often use the same actors for their different projects.

    Is her career over before it even started just for being too prudish, or was she right not to get them out for tele?

    http://www.herald.ie/entertainment/around-town/dublin-model-quit-hbo-show-over-raunchy-topless-scene-2867423.html
    A BUDDING Dublin actress and model walked out of a top role on a HBO series because she felt a scene was too raunchy.

    Lisa Nolan said she quit Game of Thrones -- a medieval fantasy drama -- when she discovered she would have to film an erotic scene.

    The Assets model insists she was promised no nudity when she arrived on the set but soon discovered they wanted her to strip off.

    Lisa (21) told the Herald that she quickly figured out her scene would involve a lot more than just standing there and looking pretty. "I was aware that the scene was slightly raunchy, but I thought it wasn't a sex scene and they said they would give me skin patches for my breasts. But when I got there they wanted me to be fully topless and in the scene I had to strip off. So I pulled out at the last minute.

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    "I just couldn't do it. I've just started out at Assets now and I'm trying to build a career.

    "People could have taken snap shots of the show and every time I did a shoot people would remember that scene," she explained.

    Lisa was brought up to Belfast to begin two days of 12-hour long filming sessions, but the model says after seeing the extent of the nudity required, she left straight away.

    "To me it looked like it was going to basically be soft porn. As well as modelling I study Sports Physiotherapy so I want to be taken seriously, I wouldn't if I had given in and filmed the scene. It was my own fault really because I didn't research the show properly. The money was amazing and the idea of it all was so glamorous but I'm glad I walked away because now I have my dignity intact," she explained.

    And after the tough experience, Lisa says she won't be rushing to TV castings anytime soon. The aspiring catwalk queen says she's going to stick to modelling for the time being.

    "The whole experience was surreal. But I was in a totally different environment than what I'm used to. I would love to get into acting but right now I'm not focused on it.

    "So I'm glad the producers of Game of Thrones did contact me for the role, because now I know I have the face for TV," she said.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    She chose to "gtfo" then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭Chris P. Bacon


    Im sure in time as the show gets more successful she will regret it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    They're only boobs. then again they obviously weren't paying her enough to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    I think she had a good opportunity here and she' s blown it. HBO would be a decent company and anyone that's watch Oz, The Wire, etc will know that they often use the same actors for their different projects.

    Is her career before it even started just for being too prudish? Is was she right not to get them out for tele?

    http://www.herald.ie/entertainment/around-town/dublin-model-quit-hbo-show-over-raunchy-topless-scene-2867423.html

    My rule of thumb on questions of whether women should take their clothes off so I can see breasts is generally yes, they should.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    The Assets model...
    So she'll probably stand on Grafton Street in her pants, advertising Club Orange or something but won't get her jubblies out for a quality TV production?

    Silly bint.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Didn't do Kate Winslet any harm. Ahhh...Kate :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Fair play to her.
    "So I'm glad the producers of Game of Thrones did contact me for the role, because now I know I have the face for TV," she said.

    .....when I got there they wanted me to be fully topless and in the scene I had to strip off.

    Face for TV? That's not the impression I get from reading the article.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Didn't do Kate Winslet any harm. Ahhh...Kate :p

    I still f*ckin' wouldn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    I think she had a good opportunity here and she' s blown it. HBO would be a decent company and anyone that's watch Oz, The Wire, etc will know that they often use the same actors for their different projects.

    Is her career over before it even started just for being too prudish, or was she right not to get them out for tele?

    http://www.herald.ie/entertainment/around-town/dublin-model-quit-hbo-show-over-raunchy-topless-scene-2867423.html

    I find her saying that she knows she has the face for tv slightly odd, seeing as once they found out all they were getting was the face, the deal was off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    her choice, she has every right to say no and walk away, fair play to her for doing it cos it probably wasnt easy


    mind you, no bewbies gives me the sad :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    They should have been up front with her about it.

    If a scene involves nudity you don't tell an actress it doesn't and then on the day says, "Oh yeah you have to be topless."

    Fair play to her for sticking to her guns.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Didn't do Kate Winslet any harm. Ahhh...Kate :p

    It killed her career... state of her! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭PaudyW


    Didn't do Kate Winslet any harm. Ahhh...Kate :p

    where she now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    Epic Fail -- Biggest TV show in the world currently, Obviously dose not realize what it takes to get on in show business IMO. Getting naked and filming a erotic scene for a HBO TV program is not exactly sleaze. Its one of the biggest artistic productions in the world currently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Goes to show why you should actually use actors for acting and not models.

    Any half-decent actor would have reviewed the script and the scene in full before arriving on set and their agent would have checked the contract thoroughly to ensure that there was no nudity, as discussed.

    Strictly speaking she was right. But rather than walk off set she should have thrown the contract in their face and either demanded they renegotiate the fee to cover the nudity, or bought her out of the contract. Instead she's walked away with nothing.
    But that's what happens when you hire someone to do a job they know nothing about.

    As for whether it would be good for her career to just get on with it, that depends on the part. There's a scene in the first series where the Imp is in a brothel talking to his brother. At the end of the scene, the brother sends in a "present", 3 women, completely nude, who get about 5 seconds of screen time by running in wearing no clothes. That scene will have done absolutely nothing for their careers, whatsoever.

    If it's a relatively big part, giving her a few minutes of screen time and some opportunity actually do some acting, then some topless nudity may be a worthwhile trade-off. It doesn't matter how popular a show is or becomes, being "Naked brothel whore #3" on IMDB does not improve your employment prospects. Except if you want to work in soft porn maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    smash wrote: »
    It killed her career... state of her! :D

    Yeah, she won an Oscar while coincidentally doing a full-frontal in "The Reader". Career death.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    If in doubt, get em out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    They should have been up front with her about it.

    If a scene involves nudity you don't tell an actress it doesn't and then on the day says, "Oh yeah you have to be topless."

    Fair play to her for sticking to her guns.

    It's HBO and more specifically...Game of Thrones...they do a lot of boob showing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,270 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Do normal people actually use the word "raunchy"? Or is it just a go-to word for newspapers when a story has anything to do with sex?

    "Raunchy". Weird.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭k.p.h


    PaudyW wrote: »
    where she now

    Really ...? Won an Oscar in 2009. One of the leading female actresses in the world..


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    It's HBO, not some seedy unknown studio

    And by running to the media to complain she now has a reputation for being difficult.
    Her career is over before it began

    She wasn't wrong to refuse to do the part, that's fair enough.
    She just shouldn't have complained about the producers in public


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    k.p.h wrote: »
    Really ...? Won an Oscar in 2009. One of the leading female actresses in the world..

    Three year jump in 08 and five movies since? Yeah that deserves a "where is she". :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Yeah, she won an Oscar while coincidentally doing a full-frontal in "The Reader". Career death.

    Killed her career as a fapable actress... :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Is her career over before it even started just for being too prudish, or was she right not to get them out for tele?

    She's standing up for what she believes in, i.e. herself, and not herself selling out for a quick buck. Plenty of Hollywood's top actress refuse to do nude scenes, perhaps Lisa has enough belief in her talent that she feels she doesn't have to get her tits out in order to become successful?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    the biggest tv show on the planet right now....and she just walked out of it :rolleyes: smart career move there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Ill do it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    chin_grin wrote: »
    Three year jump in 08 and five movies since? Yeah that deserves a "where is she". :P

    And just done a critically lauded series for HBO....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    k.p.h wrote: »
    Really ...? Won an Oscar in 2009. One of the leading female actresses in the world..
    Nominated for 6 Oscars, 7 Golden Globes and 7 BAFTAs. Yeah... where is she now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 714 ✭✭✭Smyth


    Doubt it was as major a role as people here are assuming.

    There's loads of tits and ass in GOT. If you're not in the main cast, some of it can look like soft porn.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Nominated for 6 Oscars, 7 Golden Globes and 7 Baftas. Yeah... where is she now?

    you're still not telling us where she is now and what her security detail is like!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭gargleblaster


    An actress being difficult, whoever heard of such a thing.

    She probably wants talk show fees and if so going public is a good idea. And as the saying goes there's no such thing as bad press.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Of course it wasn't a major role.

    She's never acted before - you hardly think they were going to give her a recurring character or anything.

    She probably didn't even have lines for god's sake.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    k.p.h wrote: »
    Epic Fail -- Biggest TV show in the world currently,


    Yeah but she's going to be taken seriously in the world of sports physiotherapy.

    Looks like she has the last laugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    article wrote:
    "People could have taken snap shots of the show and every time I did a shoot people would remember that scene," she explained

    Imagine, being a model/actress whose breasts have been seen in public. O the shame.

    Its a good thing she didn't get a part in "Spartacus" - her head would have exploded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    smash wrote: »
    It killed her career... state of her! :D

    err, what? she's one of the most respected acresses in the world, just because she's not appearing in any old summer blockbuster sh1te doesnt mean shes not working, her HBO series Mildred Pierce was nominated for 21 emmys.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Who cares how many oscars etc Kate was voted for... she's still horrid!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Smyth wrote: »
    Doubt it was as major a role as people here are assuming.

    There's loads of tits and ass in GOT. If you're not in the main cast, some of it can look like soft porn.

    It can sometimes just take a small spot to start the ball rolling. Like the dude from Flight of the Concords who was in Lord of the Rings. All he did was stand in the background but so many people latched on to him that he has a full role in the Hobbit movies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    you're still not telling us where she is now and what her security detail is like!

    Shes in Venice. She's looking well. Eats her spuds, that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    prinz wrote: »
    She's standing up for what she believes in, i.e. herself, and not herself selling out for a quick buck. Plenty of Hollywood's top actress refuse to do nude scenes, perhaps Lisa has enough belief in her talent that she feels she doesn't have to get her tits out in order to become successful?


    The majority of successful actors and actress have done sex scenes at one stage or another and it done no harm to there careers in fact it helped some of there careers. It commonly known if you want to be an actor in todays world you will have to show some form of nudity at one stage or another.

    Also as another poster said youll prob see her in the papers at some stage in a bikini selling spray on tan, game of thrones or bikini modelling? Id say the bikini modelling would be more degrading.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Azureus


    I'd never heard of her until now.

    So yes, good career move-she got publicity and didnt have to get naked for it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Nodin wrote: »
    Shes in Venice. She's looking well. Eats her spuds, that one.

    finally. revenge for titanic!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    It can sometimes just take a small spot to start the ball rolling. Like the dude from Flight of the Concords who was in Lord of the Rings. All he did was stand in the background but so many people latched on to him that he has a full role in the Hobbit movies.

    Didn't they latch on to him because he was in Flight of the Conchords though? If he didn't have a really successful show on HBO and been on a really successful world tour I doubt he'd have been noticed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 902 ✭✭✭scholar007


    AnonoBoy wrote: »
    They should have been up front with her about it.

    If a scene involves nudity you don't tell an actress it doesn't and then on the day says, "Oh yeah you have to be topless."

    Fair play to her for sticking to her guns.


    Oh where do I start - the jokes - the jokes - the jokes!

    The problem is she wasn't up front with her bazookas :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭tallaghtmick


    AnonoBoy wrote: »

    Fair play to her for not sticking her guns out.

    fyp:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Don't see why this is even worth discussing. It's a complete non-story really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Smyth wrote: »
    Doubt it was as major a role as people here are assuming.

    There's loads of tits and ass in GOT. If you're not in the main cast, some of it can look like soft porn.

    She's assuming that people will be gawping at her tits for the rest of her career if she does it, though. It's not going to make her career, but it's also not going to dog her around for the rest of her professional life.

    It's either something people will remember in which case any press is good press, or it's not in which case who cares. At least, in my opinion. I have manboobs though so they won't be giving me the call. She can decide whatever she wants.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I wouldn't describe her a stupid either way, it's her own choice to decide what she deems appropriate for her own career, if she's not comfortable with it then then was dead right to not do it. Fair play to her, I reckon many aspiring models would have stripped off rather than not for career progression, she should be given credit for this imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭iMax


    Two words. Angelina Ball.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    If I were a woman, I'd probably swallow my pride to take the chance but it's really a crock of shit that they always have to somehow work in a superfluous nude scene for young, attractive actresses.

    I do feel sorry for her though as refusing to do it and the it being elevated to a 'stance' by that article will probably mean she won't get another chance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    stovelid wrote: »
    If I were a woman, I'd probably swallow my pride to take the chance but it's really a crock of shit that they always have to somehow work in a superfluous nude scene for young, attractive actresses.

    It's not superfluous in Game of Thrones. There's a bunch of sex in the books too, several major plot points revolve around it. Also episode five I saw a man's cock, which I wasn't ready for. Put me right off.


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