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freaky encounter has got me thinking

  • 06-09-2011 11:10pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 13


    i have an issue that's been playing on my mind. i was told something personal today and it's bothering me. i was in work and a customer approached me for my help. when he was finished with me he asked me could he give me some advice. he then told me that i should read a book and the book was "angel's in my hair" by lorna byrne. he said i will find my answer there. what moved me a bit though was that i had been going through a difficult time in my life and i don't understand how he knew this. normally i would think he was weird but i'm curious now what he meant. he implied that i have an angel watching me and trying to guide me. whenever i asked him any questions he told me to just read the book.
    i'm deeply affected by this and need to know more. i have a card with his name on it and email address and was wondering how i could go about asking him what exactly he saw? or what he meant by this? i don't want to embarrass myself but i need to know more. i will read the book but i'd just like to know what made him say that. he also asked me if my grandparents are still alive which they aren't but he didnt explain why he asked that. he just advised me to read the book. can anyone offer any insight into this? can i email him? what should i say? many thanks for your help i appreciate it. i don't know whether to believe this angels stuff but it's a touching subject so i just simply want to know what made him say that to a total stranger like me... thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Pandora2


    Just read the book, and keep a very open mind:D:D;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭Killed By Death


    eh no offence OP but he probably says that to everyone. People who are into angels are generally gullible types who will believe any old clap trap. He didn't 'see' anything on you or around you. He's just trying to feel important. It's the same as in horoscopes or fairies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Kadongy


    He's at best a harmless looney imo. More likely he is actively harmful, and preying on vulnerable people. Wouldn't trust him as far as I could levitate him with my telekinesis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    He could just be nuts, but he sounds harmless enough. He probably thought he saw/sensed someone watching over you and grandparents are usually a common relative that everyone would’ve been close to that has pasted away. In reality he may just have a picked up a vibe that you were unhappy and wanted to say/do something to make you feel better (in his own possibly looney way!).

    It couldn’t hurt to email him, assuming he’s not a conman or a ‘psychic’ trying to round up business… run a mile if he mentions charging you money for anything! Any questions you have won’t sound any weirder than what he already said to you so I wouldn’t worry about being embarrassed.

    I do actually recommend the book anyway though. I’m a sceptic and don’t really believe in angels etc, but it’s quite a touching book and almost made a believer out of me :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hi OP,

    I think what you can take from this is that it was a lovely message. The book is about Lorna Byrne's experience with angels. She explains that everyone has a guardian angel who is there to guide you and help you with everything in your life. Really the message is that of comfort.
    Belief in angels is widespread and not a religion in any form. It's up to you what you believe.
    This man may be someone who works with angels and happened to see yours or of course he may have been someone just rambling.
    I do believe in angels, and read that book at a time when I was at my lowest and going through a very difficult time. It was recommended to me in a similar way. Your angel will give you signs and speak to you through the mouth of others...this is what Lorna Byrne talks about. I'm not exactly a fan or anything and the book was a difficult read as it was so simple, but the message is profound.
    Just ask yourself what you felt from this man and did you get a good feeling? Also the message for you may have just been to read the book. You could always email him, set up a new email address if you are worried about privacy and don't give any personal information.
    Don't worry about it tho, in no way was this a bad message. Maybe read the book and take it from there, you will meet the next person you need to talk to only when you are ready.
    Good luck and let us know how ya get on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I forgot to add OP, maybe google his name,( seeing as he gave you his card), he may be an angel healer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭IrishEyes19


    Kadongy wrote: »
    He's at best a harmless looney imo. More likely he is actively harmful, and preying on vulnerable people. Wouldn't trust him as far as I could levitate him with my telekinesis.

    totally ignorant comment if you ask me, since the man just gave some pro active advice and didnt try anything weird or try to extort money or anything from the OP. When did kind words and a bit of advice become so negative in this day and age


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8


    This is a subject that always fascinates me.
    I dont know whether I'm a believer or not, I kind of go between both.
    I also have read this book and I have to say whether you are a believer or not it is, as the previous poster said, a very lovely, moving book.
    I also went to Lorna Byrne's next book signing in Dublin, the second book is called stairways to heaven. I got to meet her as everyone did and I asked her a question about being on the right path in my life, I wanted to see if she had any valid direction to give me, but I wasnt really very impressed with my answer. It wasnt a yes or a no, and in my heart I was more thinking about the relationships I had in my life at the time, but she spoke more about me travelling and I have no desire to travel...
    Regardless she seemed like a very nice woman and she touched a lot of people there.
    I often wonder though, why would somebody make up lies about their entire life just to sell a book, that seems a bit unreal, but then again if angels dont exist that is exactly what some people have done, which is hard to believe when you meet one of them and they seem so genuine and nice...

    As regards the man, no harm in emailing him for more info but id advise against meeting up if he suggests, or as someone else said giving him money.
    Just be cautious, but an email cant harm.

    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭IrishEyes19


    evry1sm8 wrote: »
    This is a subject that always fascinates me.
    I dont know whether I'm a believer or not, I kind of go between both.
    I also have read this book and I have to say whether you are a believer or not it is, as the previous poster said, a very lovely, moving book.
    I also went to Lorna Byrne's next book signing in Dublin, the second book is called stairways to heaven. I got to meet her as everyone did and I asked her a question about being on the right path in my life, I wanted to see if she had any valid direction to give me, but I wasnt really very impressed with my answer. It wasnt a yes or a no, and in my heart I was more thinking about the relationships I had in my life at the time, but she spoke more about me travelling and I have no desire to travel...
    Regardless she seemed like a very nice woman and she touched a lot of people there.
    I often wonder though, why would somebody make up lies about their entire life just to sell a book, that seems a bit unreal, but then again if angels dont exist that is exactly what some people have done, which is hard to believe when you meet one of them and they seem so genuine and nice...

    As regards the man, no harm in emailing him for more info but id advise against meeting up if he suggests, or as someone else said giving him money.
    Just be cautious, but an email cant harm.

    Good luck.

    my thoughts exactly, dont part with money easily,as obviously there are people who prey on people who are searching for answers. But there is no harm in finding the man and asking a few questions, if you feel he is directing towards an answer go for it, but if he has a plan in mind that will have you departing with money ect, then obviously there is reason to be sceptical about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Kadongy


    totally ignorant comment if you ask me, since the man just gave some pro active advice and didnt try anything weird or try to extort money or anything from the OP. When did kind words and a bit of advice become so negative in this day and age
    Freaking out someone who is vulnerable and telling them they will find an answer in phony crap is neither kind nor is it any sort of pro active advice.

    It's sad if people think that the only thing they should worry about being exploited is their finances. Very messed up value system right there.


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    i am not going to get into the whole whether angels exist or not, that is for you to decide.

    But under no circumstances email this man. you met him a work situation. it would be extremely unprofessional for you to email him about anything other then work.

    If you want answers, do what he told you to do- READ THE BOOK


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,442 ✭✭✭Firetrap


    What I think happened is that he sensed that you were a bit bothered by what has been going on. Perhaps you were a little bit rattled or distracted on that day. He might have seen you in your workplace at other times looking unhappy perhaps? Some people are better at hiding things that upset them than others.

    The book obviously means something to him and he probably felt he was being helpful by suggesting you read it. Kind of like how someone else might suggest you read a self-help book. This one just happens to have angels in it. It's up to you as to whether you contact him or read the book but that's my take on it :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭LittleBook


    i have an issue that's been playing on my mind. i was told something personal today and it's bothering me. i was in work and a customer approached me for my help. when he was finished with me he asked me could he give me some advice. he then told me that i should read a book and the book was "angel's in my hair" by lorna byrne. he said i will find my answer there. what moved me a bit though was that i had been going through a difficult time in my life and i don't understand how he knew this. normally i would think he was weird but i'm curious now what he meant. he implied that i have an angel watching me and trying to guide me. whenever i asked him any questions he told me to just read the book.
    i'm deeply affected by this and need to know more. i have a card with his name on it and email address and was wondering how i could go about asking him what exactly he saw? or what he meant by this? i don't want to embarrass myself but i need to know more. i will read the book but i'd just like to know what made him say that. he also asked me if my grandparents are still alive which they aren't but he didnt explain why he asked that. he just advised me to read the book. can anyone offer any insight into this? can i email him? what should i say? many thanks for your help i appreciate it. i don't know whether to believe this angels stuff but it's a touching subject so i just simply want to know what made him say that to a total stranger like me ... thanks

    The bolded part seems to be your quandry OP. You don't understand how someone could have divined from you that you'd gone through a rough time. It's really not that hard. People often wear their hearts on their sleeves without realising it.

    Whether this person is a cold reader, an empath or just someone who's been through a hard time and recognises it in someone else, by all means, follow his advice if it means something to you.

    Personally I believe if he was simply a well-meaning stranger you would never see him again, I find it a little strange that he expects you to contact him, particularly since he claims you will find "the answer" in this book. Whether I believed in angels or not, this would make me wary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭nesbitt


    OP I got a leaflet in my letterbox last week promoting this book. So I would just take your encounter as simply that. The man was promoting something that he is involved in. Indeed it could be to help people or for financial gain. You can only surmise really.

    Perhaps you are more affronted that something in your demeanor on that day made you seem 'in need' of advice to read a book to find your answer etc. I would be a little bit taken a back too if that happened to me. It is a bit of a personal invasion especially that this happened in the course of your work. There is a charter on how customers should behave as well as staff so in my view this man over stepped the mark a bit...

    Anyway as other posters have pointed out I would not get in touch whatsoever, bin the card.

    People will be carrying some worry or not be feeling 100% on any given day. You OP, are no different to anyone else going about their business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,222 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    totheop wrote: »
    This man may be someone who works with angels

    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 746 ✭✭✭Starokan


    some people are profoundly affected by books like Angels in My Hair, Power of Now, Bringers of the Dawn etc etc. He probably has got a huge amount out of the book he mentioned and feels he should pass this on to others.

    Granted its a little unusual to approach a complete stranger and tell them to read it. But you know what id be inclined to think he was a nice guy who is in a good place and is sharing it.

    Whether you read it or not is up to you . Like any book you will either like, dislike or be indifferent to it. Personally I would hold off on contacting him , he would only be intent on roping you into his way of thinking. Form your own opinions and then if you feel like contacting him by all means do so


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    I wouldnt stress about it at all, op. (I mod paranormal, so this is something I deal with a lot). Im sure the guy meant well, but such people dont always realise how their comments can leave the recipient confused and upset. Read the book if you want, but otherwise, chalk it up to a well meant but ill thought out bit of interference.

    I really think such unsolicited 'readings' of people are quite irresponsible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hi OP

    I would agree that he picked up on a vibe you were giving off and mentioned Agels as a way of offering some form of help. I wouldn't be contacting him though, he's a blind stranger-really what can he say to you?

    Regarding the book? Its a nice read, but not great. Some of my relations grew up with the author and they all claim that most of her memories have either been completely fabricated or highly embellished. Obviously I'm taking their word for it, but having read it myself I remain sceptical. Its kind of like Angela's Ashes with angels, a work of fiction that happens to have real people and events in it. That said I know of a lot of people who have been very touched by what they read in it, but there are better ways of learning about angels IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭analucija


    when he was finished with me he asked me could he give me some advice. he then told me that i should read a book and the book was "angel's in my hair" by lorna byrne. he said i will find my answer there. what moved me a bit though was that i had been going through a difficult time in my life and i don't understand how he knew this.

    It's perfectly possible that he approaches just about anybody. After all he didn't say anything definitive but you are probably more affected by his statements because you are going through difficult time. It's working in the same way as people in financial trouble are more likely to believe that they won spanish lottery without buying a ticket. Read the book if you want to but don't email him. At best it's weird, at worst it's a scam.

    Btw is it common that customers leave business cards with you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭blackbird98


    I know a guy in Naas that used to be a manic depressant, and also an alcoholic. He swears that the angels saved him. He tells everybody about it, so maybe it's somebody who had similar rehabilitation??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    Op, don't be freaked out in any way by this - my mam is mad into angels and loves that angel book and those cards. She tells everyone she encounters about their Angels and it doesn't matter if they are friends, family or complete strangers, she does it because she genuinely thinks she is helping people.

    She is a very vulnerable person herself and it gives her hope and joy to talk about Angels - although I admit, it makes me uncomfortable when she approaches me about it but I rarely show it (I'm a non believer) and it seems to make her happy.

    If you are interested and believe in it yourself, by all means do look into it but please don't contact that man - he is a stranger and may be preying on vulnerable people. Look after yourself and hope yr situation improves for you.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    There's nothing really to be lost in reading the book, but while you're reading keep in mind that the author is pushing an agenda.

    The man you met didn't see anything looking over you, but he may believe that there is something there. In my experience some Angel fanatics will take any opportunity to talk about their beliefs. For some it is every bit as much a religion as Christianity is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 curiosityofme


    hi i am the OP. thank you for your opinions. i want to point out that the man gave me a business card to pass on to another department, he didnt give me an angel's card or anything like that. do you feel i would get anything out of emailing this man? (i'd like to know what urged him to say what he said OR if he simply thought i was down and was trying to cheer me up) i just wish he had explained himself more. if i emailed him, he couldn't rope me into his way of thinking without giving me facts. once knowing what he meant i could make up my own mind on what i believe. initially i asked him was he psychic and he said no and not to believe that rubbish.
    i noticed he kept looking at me for a good 5 mins standing nearby. it was as if he was wondering whether he should say something to me or not. he said very little he simply wrote down the name of the book and a prayer to say (a guardian angel prayer) and he said "read the book and u'll find the answer" --- but what made him think i had a question, i hardly spoke to him??
    he then asked me if my nana ever read me a certain prayer but i never heard of it so i said no.
    also i dont think he was trying to make money as he said not bother reading her second book. i googled his name and no mention of angels or anything freaky.
    this has left me feeling completely confused. what if an angel is trying to tell me something important and yet what if i listen to him and turn mad like him...
    what's gonna magically happen if i read this book i dont understand.
    i dunno what to think but for those of you who feel i should email him to put my mind at ease, what could i say in the email?


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,914 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I agree that you shouldn't think too much about this. And definitely don't contact him. If you want to know a bit more, read the book.

    He made a very broad general statement, that anybody in the world could fit to themselves if it was said to them.

    Being honest, most people go through "tough times" on a regular basis. Be it through loss of job, cut wages, bereavement, stress within work/family/friends etc. You may think they are tough. OR you may not think it is particularly tough until someone else TELLS you that you are going through a tough time.

    I'm not saying he is right or wrong, or making it up or actually able to see or sense angels... BUT.. if you are curious read the book. You have no real reason to contact him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    ... he said "read the book and u'll find the answer" --- but what made him think i had a question, i hardly spoke to him??
    Nothing made him think so, he was just counting on the fact that everyone always has a question about something, whether it's about money, love, work or something else.
    ... what if an angel is trying to tell me something important and yet what if i listen to him and turn mad like him...
    It's unlikely that anything is trying to tell you something. If this man's behaviour has disturbed you so much that you think he's 'mad', that would be a warning sign to stay away from him. Definitely don't contact him; it's possible that he is a predator and is hoping to prey on a curious woman.
    what's gonna magically happen if i read this book i dont understand.
    Nothing magical is going to happen. Nothing at all. Possibly something in it will resonate with you circumstances and give you some ideas about issues in your life, but there is nothing magical angels, they are simply an idea in the gods/spirits way.
    i dunno what to think but for those of you who feel i should email him to put my mind at ease, what could i say in the email?
    Please don't contact him. If it looks like a nutter, and acts like a nutter then it's probably a nutter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 363 ✭✭analucija


    i noticed he kept looking at me for a good 5 mins standing nearby. it was as if he was wondering whether he should say something to me or not. he said very little he simply wrote down the name of the book and a prayer to say (a guardian angel prayer) and he said "read the book and u'll find the answer" --- but what made him think i had a question, i hardly spoke to him??
    he then asked me if my nana ever read me a certain prayer but i never heard of it so i said no.
    also i dont think he was trying to make money as he said not bother reading her second book. i googled his name and no mention of angels or anything freaky.
    this has left me feeling completely confused. what if an angel is trying to tell me something important and yet what if i listen to him and turn mad like him...
    what's gonna magically happen if i read this book i dont understand.
    i dunno what to think but for those of you who feel i should email him to put my mind at ease, what could i say in the email?
    I don't believe in angels (or anything else) so what you described just seems freaky to me. However if there are angels that need to tell you something, I'm pretty sure they will do it anyway and you don't need to email him for that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭evry1sm8



    i dunno what to think but for those of you who feel i should email him to put my mind at ease, what could i say in the email?

    Hi OP, just say to him simply what you say here

    "Hi, I am that girl in X shop that you said something to the other day.
    I was just wondering what prompted you to say what you said,
    and wondered what exactly you saw?"

    He cant do anything to you over email.
    If he starts writing emails you are uncomfortable with just make a filter to send any from his address straight to trash so you wont even see them anymore afterwards.

    Worth a try for peace of mind IMO.
    I mean what can he do over an email besides give you an answer.
    You always have the power to block email addresses if it turns into anything else that you dont like / want to deal with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    I'd suggest you give the emailing a miss OP - he provided his details for someone else in your company, for professional reasons. Maybe he'd welcome the contact, maybe he wouldn't and would be back to your company asking why staff are making unsolicited personal contact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    hi i am the OP. thank you for your opinions. i want to point out that the man gave me a business card to pass on to another department, he didnt give me an angel's card or anything like that.

    Hmm if the business card wasn’t intended for you, then it might be inappropriate to contact him. And to be honest I doubt he’ll have any answers for you (or at least none that will satisfy you). It sounds like he picked up that something was wrong with you, either because you weren’t hiding your feelings as well as intended and/or he’s just good at reading people (nothing to do being psychic or angels etc, just human behaviour). Having sensed that, he wanted to reach out and do something that he intended to be helpful for you. It sounds like he’s very religious, so his natural instinct is to tell people to turn to god (or angels, jesus etc) for guidance. That’s probably all he meant and I doubt there was much more to it.

    I would take the experience as it was intended; one human being reaching out to another in an apparent time of need. Whatever it is that is troubling you, I highly doubt he will have the answers. I don’t think you’ve mentioned what it is that is troubling you, but whatever it is I suggest you try to tackle the problem head-on (and/or get counseling if necessary). Unfortunately you’re not going to find an answer from him or in a book. But like I said, it’s still a nice read and may help lift your spirits.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,442 ✭✭✭Firetrap


    I reckon if the OP wasn't feeling a bit off-kilter at the moment, this man's comments wouldn't have had the same effect. It reminds me a bit of how some bereaved people go to a medium, hoping that it will enable them to communicate with their loved ones.

    I'm pretty sceptical about angels so the way I see the story is this: man senses OP is upset and perhaps a bit lost just now. He recommends the book. He's probably somewhat religious and really rates the prayer he gave her. Perhaps that is why he was asking about the grandparents - that they'd be familiar with the prayer? I don't think he means any harm, is trying to sell books or brainwash anyone. Some people are just more evangelical about their religious beliefs than others. I don't believe he has any great insights into whatever it is that's going on in the OP's life. It's just that the OP might be feeling a bit lost and the idea that he might have some answers is an appealing one. On reflection, it would be better not to contact him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭gerryk


    I'm curious how you would feel if someone approached you and told you you had a leprechaun watching over you and to read a book written by someone who had experiences with leprechauns throughout their lives?

    This is no different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Lumen wrote: »
    :confused:

    'This man may be someone who works with angels' is a person who is an angelic healer/someone who gives angel cards readings/generally works through the angelic realm, hope this helps.
    Op you seem a little scared about all of this. Don't email him as he only gave you his business card and you may seem unprofessional. I think you are vulnerable and reading too much into it. Read the book and then see what you think :)


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