Need advice to finish my plan.

fonecrusher1

Hello all. Just shed 6 stone in approx. 6 months recently & i feel a hell of a lot better for it. Down from 20.5 stone to 14.5 stone. Problem is there are still some fatty deposits left in certain areas of my body. The usual places...belly, around the backside region & still a bit of fat on my chest, not a lot but i want it gone to be honest.

So around 3 weeks ago i started lifting weights, just dumbell reps to work shoulders, arms & pecs. I Also do some aerobic type core exercises, push ups & stuff like that. Is this worth continuing? It does to some extent already seem to have gotten some minor results but should i bother with the weights/abdominal exercises at all & just do cardio cardio cardio till i get to my goal weight? Will the weight lifting put weight back on me?

Now i reckon about 13stone 10 pounds is where i want to be at in a few weeks & will go no lower than that as i will definitely start to look a bit underweight for my build (6ft 1inch). The last time i went that low in weight i was told i looked ill!!

Anyway whats the best way to go forward? Cardio or weights/aerobics or both? Is it possible to lose weight & put on a bit of muscle. Ideally i'd like to me somewhat toned & around the 13stone & 10lb mark for summer next year.

Thanks for reading & any advice is appreciated.

By the way i eat quite healthy & i always make sure theres a calorie deficit each week hence the weight loss.

WeeBushy

I just wanted to say that losing 6 stone in 6 months is an amazing achievement, well done!

The last few pounds will be harder to get rid of, and yes lifting weights defo helps. Somebody more experienced than I will hopefully give you specifics on what to do/not to do. But good work dude, keep it up.

Paigne

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Hello all. Just shed 6 stone in approx. 6 months recently & i feel a hell of a lot better for it.

Thats a fairly big drop, fair play!

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Will the weight lifting put weight back on me?

Yes, lifting weights can put on weight, but it is muscle gain, fat is still lost. Weightlifting burns calories after the exercise itself too, and leads to a more toned loss of fat rather than going scrawny. It also increases your strength. A diet review is required though, what's an average days diet for you??

And just in case your wondering, you won't wake up like Arnie from doing weights as an exercise, they are fine for working out and not bulking!!!

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Now i reckon about 13stone 10 pounds is where i want to be at in a few weeks & will go no lower than that as i will definitely start to look a bit underweight for my build (6ft 1inch). The last time i went that low in weight i was told i looked ill!!

I cannot picture being under that weight being skinny enough to make you look ill for your height... that's between 25 and 26 BMI

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Is it possible to lose weight & put on a bit of muscle.

Whats 'a bit'?? For bulking, yes, but it's difficult and not worth it IMO. I would suggest if you want to bulk, review your diet, exercises, up the calories and then lose the excess weight when you've hit your target. Again, exercise/diet reviews are essential.

Paigne

Just noticed this thread - more info there on weights for weightloss - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056375603

fonecrusher1

Paigne wrote: »

Thats a fairly big drop, fair play!



Yes, lifting weights can put on weight, but it is muscle gain, fat is still lost. Weightlifting burns calories after the exercise itself too, and leads to a more toned loss of fat rather than going scrawny. It also increases your strength. A diet review is required though, what's an average days diet for you??

And just in case your wondering, you won't wake up like Arnie from doing weights as an exercise, they are fine for working out and not bulking!!!



I cannot picture being under that weight being skinny enough to make you look ill for your height... that's between 25 and 26 BMI



Whats 'a bit'?? For bulking, yes, but it's difficult and not worth it IMO. I would suggest if you want to bulk, review your diet, exercises, up the calories and then lose the excess weight when you've hit your target. Again, exercise/diet reviews are essential.

Hi Paigne thanks for the response.

Diet; 6 days a week

Breakfast - usually a cup of tea with 1.5 sugars & low fat milk or apple (don't really eat breaky/ maybe small bowl of porridge?)
Lunch - boiled egg + 1 slice of brown bread toasted with skim of butter & cup of tea.
Dinner - plate of stew or fried chicken breast in 1 small wholemeal wrap or fried mincemeat in 1 small wholemeal wrap or small bowl of spag bol with wheat pasta. Honestly my dinners are very average in size. I always have a cup of tea after each meal. No dessert not even a biscuit with me tae!

Friday - same meals as every other day but i will have a few glasses of wine that night.
Saturday is take it easy day - Might have a pizza or curry every 2 saturdays & a few pints that night.

Exercise; 6 days a week NOT SATURDAYS.

20 minutes of crosstrainer (i hurt my knee a month ago so i cant jog.:()
40 minutes of weights. simple weights exercises just for shoulders + arms + chest + back.
20 minutes of core exercises including small bit of ab work.

Paigne

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

don't really eat breaky/ maybe small bowl of porridge?

Breakie is a very important meal! It speeds up your metabolism and makes you less likely to get cravings, I like to think of it as turning yourself on for the day, like the tug of the lawnmower to get it started.

Your diet is seriously lacking in fruit and veg, unless there's some veg in your stew I don't see any. No matter what you chose to be your next step, that needs sorting!!!

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Saturday is take it easy day - Might have a pizza or curry every 2 saturdays & a few pints that night.

No problem whatsoever here in my opinion, I feel that many fail diets from cutting out foods they enjoy completely - people may not agree but for some people I think this could be a better option - it gives you motivation as something to look forward to and removes cravings.

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Exercise; 6 days a week NOT SATURDAYS.

If you decide to do heavy weights - you'll have to reduce this to 4 or 5 days a week.

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

40 minutes of weights. simple weights exercises just for shoulders + arms + chest + back.

Again, how are you feeling about what your plan could be now?? Your weights system should cover all muscles (not in a day, but over a certain period e.g. week) Compound exercises are also a must - exercises that work several muscles (e.g. squat, bench press, pull up) rather than target exercises (e.g. bicep curls).
If you are new to weights and haven't done research and came up with a system for wokring chest, one for arms etc. - chances are your wrong (no offence) so have a look around!

This is just my two cents from what I've experienced and learned, start looking at other sources for exercises, methods, diets etc.

fonecrusher1

Thanks Paigne i'l take all you said into consideration. Few questions...

- Isn't most fruit full of sugar? What benefits do fruit add to a diet? Agree with you on the lack of veg.
- What do you think is the best exercise combination to tone up? What source do you recommend?

Longterm plan; Now that i have 90% of my excess weight off i just want to tone up & be pretty trim for next summer.

- Is it true that if you do weights one day you must rest those particular muscles the next day? As in do cardio instead the next day. Or does that only apply to heavy weight lifters aiming for bulk?

Sorry for all the questions, im a newb at all this stuff!!....

Paigne

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Thanks Paigne i'l take all you said into consideration. Few questions...

No problemo

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

- Isn't most fruit full of sugar? What benefits do fruit add to a diet? Agree with you on the lack of veg.

Yes and no, fruit does contain sugar, but its natural sugar, much better for you and shouldn't be compared to say the sugar in coke. Fruit contains vitamins and is a great snack, and different fruit contains different benfits (e.g. potassium in bananas) The key is balancing your foodstuffs in total. Fruit and veg are also excellent for fibre for keeping yourself, ahem, regular!

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

- What do you think is the best exercise combination to tone up? What source do you recommend?

Sorry but my experiences are for bulk lifting, so I haven't seen enough tone up routines to answer that for you, but I think you should type 'tone up' or along the lines into the search and choose this forum on the option on the side to get a better idea!
The only toning up style routine I've done is the P90X, which was good but too expensive to pay for.

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

- Is it true that if you do weights one day you must rest those particular muscles the next day? As in do cardio instead the next day. Or does that only apply to heavy weight lifters aiming for bulk?

Yes that is true, but it doesn't mean you can't do weights the next day, e.g. if I do back and chest on Monday, with quads and biceps on Tuesday, my back and chest are not getting enough of a workout through my Tuesday workout to be damaging.