Fitting stove into existing fireplace...

cjpm

Guys,

We've an old fireplace, pretty standard which we never use. It backs onto the hot press so i'd love to install a boiler stove.

Only problem is that most boiler stoves are too wide for a 18" fireplace would have to be in front of the fireplace.

I don't particuraly like the idea of that as it takes up a lot of space in the room (16ft X 12ft) and the chimney breast already protrudes into the room. In addition I believe it's very dodgy to install a horizontal flue, which this would require, as well as making sweeping from below impossible.

I suppose i'm wondering if there's any way of widening the fireplace a bit to shove the stove backwards?? Without rebuilding the chimney!! A total long shot I know!!

Also, is it recommended to get the flue lined. I was in 2 showrooms today and both guys said it was only required if it's in poor condition. I thought the lower flue gasses used to build up soot on an uninsulated flue...

Any thoughts greatly appreciated.

JP

DoneDL

cjpm, perfect setup from a plumbing point of view, chimney should be lined but salesmen never seem to acknowledge this. As for the stove and room size too big a stove will overheat the room.

Ddad

My cousin demolished the chimney replastered the wall and added a ton of space to their sitting room. They then ran the flue up the wall in the opposite room and boxed it in with steel studwork and fireproof plasterboard with access for sweeping. The demolition, waste disposal and construction work came in at less than 1k. Obviously, this excluded the stove, flue and plumbing work. It transformed the room. It looks great and the room in much bigger feeling. They burn no oil anymore. Their house is a detached bungalow though. not really feasible in anything two story.

Stove Fan

cjpm wrote: »

Guys,

We've an old fireplace, pretty standard which we never use. It backs onto the hot press so i'd love to install a boiler stove.

Only problem is that most boiler stoves are too wide for a 18" fireplace would have to be in front of the fireplace.

I don't particuraly like the idea of that as it takes up a lot of space in the room (16ft X 12ft) and the chimney breast already protrudes into the room. In addition I believe it's very dodgy to install a horizontal flue, which this would require, as well as making sweeping from below impossible.

I suppose i'm wondering if there's any way of widening the fireplace a bit to shove the stove backwards?? Without rebuilding the chimney!! A total long shot I know!!

Also, is it recommended to get the flue lined. I was in 2 showrooms today and both guys said it was only required if it's in poor condition. I thought the lower flue gasses used to build up soot on an uninsulated flue...

Any thoughts greatly appreciated.

JP

Is your house fairly modern? If not you may be able to open the fireplace up more but depends on whether the chimney there was built for an open fire. Any chance of a photo and the width of the chimney breast?

If it is not possible to widen I would recommend fitting an inset boiler stove. Esse 350 is not bad and there are other makes.

Stove Fan:)

vmg

i agree with stove fan we recently got some work done and were looking at putting a stove into the fire place, moving the head and resuporting flue liners can be costly but would make a nice effect in room in the end we went with an insert stove allthough not a boiler looks great and gives out good heat we also replaced the original marble heart and marble backing to granite and a cast iron back.

if you are in any doubt about state of chimney id say budget for a flexy flue liner as we also had problems with another fireplace where we were putting in a stanley donard range, chimney was in bad condition when opened up and would have caused alot of problems in the end we ran a new insutated flue straight out of top and out of roof works a treat cost 700 with all fittings

can post a picture of insert stove if you wish

cjpm

vmg wrote: »

can post a picture of insert stove if you wish

What type of stove is it?? How many KW's??
What size room is it in??

Would appreciate a pic too if it's not too much hassle!

vmg

yea no prob with a picture but it will be tomorrow morn cause have to use internet at work to upload picture,

our insert stove is an arrow ecoburn it is a 5kw with no back boiler the room is pretty big at nearly 30foot by 14foot but it is an old house with not great insulation and split level and large north facing wall not drylined would probablly go for a 7kw next time but am currently insulating and changing windows so all should help

it really does give off serious heat but not as much as some freestanding stoves ive found

vmg

here is picture of insert stove