How many Olde Worlde Sweete shops does Kilkenny need?

flower tattoo

I believe we're up to 3 now within a 5 minute walk of each other. Are these shops really cheap to set up or something?

Absolute Zero

they must be, the one beside extra vision seems to be doing good business, the one on the butterslip seems to never have any one in it now. But do we really need 3 sweet shops on top of all the ice cream parlours opening up :rolleyes:

Dozen Wicked Words

3 is definitely overkill but If it gives people a job then the more the merrier. The one on the Butterslip used to deliver, don't know if it still does.

TrustedApple

Did you not here that the sweet shops are the new dunnes stores in kilkenny we can never have to many !!

No there is 5 of them in kilkenny the 3 that are right next to each other and one in each shopping center

Mastroph

samapple789 wrote: »

sweat shops

:pac:

jprboy

samapple789 wrote: »

Did you not here that the sweat shops are the new dunnes stores in kilkenny we can never have to many !!

No there is 5 of them in kilkenny the 3 that are right next to each other and one in each shopping center

And are they supplying Dunnes?? No shipping charges from the Far East so.....

Ah, beaten to it, feck ya Mastroph !!

Jimmy Iovine

samapple789 wrote: »

Did you not here that the sweat shops are the new dunnes stores in kilkenny we can never have to many !!

Where are these sweat shops that you speak of??

EDIT: Fúck I was very slow on this one. Thats what happens when you dont refresh a page and think no new posts were made.

Cabaal

In fairness to the butterslip sweet shop its in Kilkenny the longest out of the three and I've previously even seen them posting on boards.ie so thats pretty progressive.

They also have a website and take online orders http://www.slipsweetshop.com/

Captain Havoc

Cabaal wrote: »

In fairness to the butterslip sweet shop its in Kilkenny the longest out of the three and I've previously even seen them posting on boards.ie so thats pretty progressive.

They also have a website and take online orders http://www.slipsweetshop.com/

I think they were on the telly also, Nationwide possibly.

CongressTart

These new olde sweet shops are everywhere, even as stalls in shopping centres. Looks very contrived with the old jars in the middle of a modern building.

catbear

Wait until "Ye auld Opium Den" opens up, there be one on every street corner.

Sky King

They're the head shops for the new decade!

"It's a disgrace Joe, all them kids eatin all them sweets and the teeth only fallin outa their heads!"

Calibos

flower tattoo wrote: »

I believe we're up to 3 now within a 5 minute walk of each other. Are these shops really cheap to set up or something?

I'm not from Kilkenny myself but this thread was on the front page and caught my eye.

Putting aside the leasing and staffing costs, yes they would be quite cheap as shops go. A till, a weighing scales, a counter and some shelves. Can be more if you take out one of the Olde Worlde sweetshop franchises where more moeny is spent up front on decor. The big draw though is that the margins are massive. Every Tom Dick and Harry shop owner is trying to get in on the action now. However, its like the adage about stocks and shares or property etc, "When the dog in the street is telling you something is a great investment or money spinner, the canny investor knows its time to get out while the goin's still good."

Family were thinking about it for a while there here in my own town on the East Coast and I made the above arguement against the idea as well as a few others. They went so far as to make enquires about leases on 'For Let' units on the local mainstreet. Persuaded them against the idea and whaddya know. Bullet dodged big time. Have just discovered one has just opened, he himself will have just discovered that another is on the way because signs went up ' ** ***** Sweetshop Opening Soon' further up the street. Neither of them know that a third is opening aswell (I have a family connection in the Confectionery business supplying a lot of product to these shops)

Whatever about any given town being able to support 1 specialist sweetshop, I foresee most of the people getting involved in these as simply ending up with another financial noose around their neck rather than the moneyspinners they hoped would change their financial fortunes for the better.

Plug

I think the one opposite Xtra Vision stays open till 11pm every night. As far as having three I say go for it and the best of luck to all of them. Grab the bull by the the horns.

Calibos

Plug wrote: »

I think the one opposite Xtra Vision stays open till 11pm every night. As far as having three I say go for it and the best of luck to all of them. Grab the bull by the the horns.

That in itself is a bad sign already. A specialist sweetshop that opens till 11pm!! We started opening our shop an hour earlier in the mornings and an hour later at night till 10pm last year to make up for lost turnover since the recession hit. But our shop is a convenience store so even with extended hours no one would raise an eyebrow. Desperation must be setting in for a specialist sweetshop to open even later unless he feels he is tapping the goldmine late night munchies market. Is he selling Rizla's alongside the sweets?

I had another LOL moment here this morning. My information about the proliferation of specialist sweetshops in my town that I posted last night is already out of date!! Theres another two on top of the three I mentioned last night making 5 in total.....and there all on the mainstreet. Theres only going to be 3 doors between one pair and then 5 doors to the next 1. The other two are a little further away though but still on the mainstreet. I know this because they've all taken up the leases in the commercial lets the family were looking at when we were thinking about opening one.

They are all going to struggle until each folds with large debts in turn with only the last man standing. Grabbing the bulls by the horns. You know that doesn't always work out well don't you! Even in terms of employment, I think the headaches for the staff with the Welfare department after coming off the dole and then going back on after 2 or 3 months are not to be sniffed at. For many of these staff they'd probably have been better off staying on the dole for those few months. ie. Come off the dole work for 2 or 3 months till the shops fold, re-apply for the dole and be without any income for another 2 months till the backdated dole check comes.

Goodluck to them alright but there is a difference between filling a gap in the market and overfilling a gap in the market by a factor of 5

hi5

A complete lack of imagination and confidence other than the first one to open.
You wait in the long grass for someone else to take the inititive and risk.
Then when they seem to be doing well you jump in and dilute the market.
Then you all go bust.

I'll bet the dentists are loving it though:D

ergonomics

Calibos wrote: »

That in itself is a bad sign already. A specialist sweetshop that opens till 11pm!! We started opening our shop an hour earlier in the mornings and an hour later at night till 10pm last year to make up for lost turnover since the recession hit. But our shop is a convenience store so even with extended hours no one would raise an eyebrow. Desperation must be setting in for a specialist sweetshop to open even later unless he feels he is tapping the goldmine late night munchies market. Is he selling Rizla's alongside the sweets?

I'm not going to pretend I know anything about business but I thought them staying open to 11pm was a clever idea.

Xtravision is open to 11 isn't it? What do people like to have while they're renting a film? Sweets. Oh look, the sweet shop across the road is still open...

fabbydabby

Who still rents films?

Get with the naughties, man.

PhilipMarlowe

It's clearly brie time, baby.

Dozen Wicked Words

fabbydabby wrote: »

Who still rents films?

Get with the naughties, man.

The Naughties? Thats so last year man.

fabbydabby

kkhornet

ergonomics wrote: »

I'm not going to pretend I know anything about business but I thought them staying open to 11pm was a clever idea.

Xtravision is open to 11 isn't it? What do people like to have while they're renting a film? Sweets. Oh look, the sweet shop across the road is still open...

No xtravision is only open until 10pm

KK4SAM

Plug wrote: »

I think the one opposite Xtra Vision stays open till 11pm every night. As far as having three I say go for it and the best of luck to all of them. Grab the bull by the the horns.

Grab the bulls eye by the horns.

Paigne

KK4SAM wrote: »

Grab the bulls eye by the horns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFcqGGMPc3k

holyhead

I like the look of the one opposite Xtravision on Rose Inn Street. Crikey they are open all the hours. Pleased to see the unit filled than empty. Best of luck to them.

Bowlardo

kkhornet wrote: »

No xtravision is only open until 10pm

it's open till 11 on friday and saturday

Toblerone1978

Do anybody remember the genuine Olde Worlde Sweete shops on High St. Two of them were right beside each other and if memory serves me right, one was blue and the other was red, place in the buildings between Supermacs and Ulster Bank. I say they're gone since the early 90s and I think there's a camera shop in one of them now.

I remember the one on the right was a superior sweet shop. I also remember having a bet with my cousins to see who could stay the longest in there with just 2p and the shopkeeper staring at ya. I think 21 mins was the winning time.

I spend a lot of 50p s in those two when I got to come into town!!

holyhead

I do. One was called Whites and the other was Mooneys. Used to be dead handy for going to the cinema when it was on William St ie the Regent. Happy memories.

Captain Havoc

I used to always go into Mooneys for a quarter of apple drops. Mary thaw used to be always in whites. I bet ye olde sweete shops are loving this thread.

Rantan

old mr mooney used to scare the sh1te out of me!! What a cranky auld lad he was - I'd love to see his style of customer service back again:)

miece16

we must be well into the tennies now by this stage? the 20's are only a few years down the line

pueblo

approx. 3.5

Formosa

Rantan wrote: »

old mr mooney used to scare the sh1te out of me!! What a cranky auld lad he was - I'd love to see his style of customer service back again:)

My mother and her family used refer to him as "Meanie Mooney"

fabbydabby

What I would like to see instead of these extortionate faux olde worlde sweet shops is some genuine old school Irish shops.

You know the ones where you can go in and buy a home made apple tart, a packet of rawl plugs, forty major and a toy truck for the young fellah.

...And you can't get your choc-ice out of the chest freezer cause there's a sheepdog asleep on it.

I think that would do well in town tbh. PROPER!

Captain Havoc

You'd miss Jim Garvin.

Jimmy Iovine

Captain Havoc wrote: »

You'd miss Jim Garvin.

I remember going in there many years ago in primary school. We'd ask for some quare sweets down the bottom shelf. He'd take hours getting them and we'd sneak a look at page 3 in The Sun.

I remember a few other times where he used to sit in the kitchen finishing off his lunch while we were waiting to get served. We'd easily have been there for 3 or 4 minutes standing at the counter.

Another time I got barred because I asked for strawberry sweets and then said I didn't want them and wanted something else instead. Bit harsh considering I was only 9 at the time ha ha.

Those were the days.

thetonynator

fabbydabby wrote: »

What I would like to see instead of these extortionate faux olde worlde sweet shops is some genuine old school Irish shops.

You know the ones where you can go in and buy a home made apple tart, a packet of rawl plugs, forty major and a toy truck for the young fellah.

...And you can't get your choc-ice out of the chest freezer cause there's a sheepdog asleep on it.

I think that would do well in town tbh. PROPER!

Heaslips in Knocktopher!!!

Threadhead

Jim Garvan, forever having his soup.

The auld bollocks.