cant cure my Slice

bkeano

Hi Folks

I need some help/advise on helping me get rid of my Slice. I have had it now for about 8 months and have gone to my local pro for at least 8 sessions but I cant seem to cure it. Can anyone recommend a good Pro who could help me out. I know I am hittting ball with club face open and have tried everything to alter my grips and get my hands over but I just cant seem to get it right. its wrecking my head!

thanks

Jul3s

Not to be too harsh on you but if your local pro can't sort it after 8 lessons then no one can, i.e. you're the problem and you're screwed.

mike12

I have to agree he is either a crap pro or there is no hope, Krshna Paydachee i'm sure the spelling is wrong but he works in the Ward golf centre he cured my brothers horror slice it's now a soft draw.
Mike

0161allin

bkeano wrote: »

Hi Folks

gone to my local pro for at least 8 sessions but I cant seem to cure it.

Just out of curiosity what did you pro teach you in 8 lessons?? Or how did he go about curing it?? I think i'd have cured it for ya in 8 lessons !!!!

Bandana boy

Move your loose change from your back right pocket to your front left

Freemount09

Tie you laces on your left shoe tighter than on your right shoe.

newport2

bkeano wrote: »

Hi Folks

I need some help/advise on helping me get rid of my Slice. I have had it now for about 8 months and have gone to my local pro for at least 8 sessions but I cant seem to cure it. Can anyone recommend a good Pro who could help me out. I know I am hittting ball with club face open and have tried everything to alter my grips and get my hands over but I just cant seem to get it right. its wrecking my head!

thanks

I find Michael Kavanagh in Leopardstown excellent, would strongly recommend trying him. Anyway, if you've had 8 sessions and still have the problem, them try someone else. Anyone else!

If you're struggling with a slice, you should practice on the leftmost bay in your driving range. This will prevent you from aiming left to compensate for your slice (assuming there's barriers of some sort at the side of the range), which further worsens it.

Dr.Silly

this is one of the best drills for any slicer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrT1ApXXRFw

also, on the start of your downswing, try get the feeling the your right elbow is tucked in moving towards the side of your stomach/hips

VikingG

The only thing that cured mine was to swing at 80-90%....I always felt that my timing with my hands turning the club over and my upper body rotating wasnt quite right and going a little bit slower did the trick for me.

sternpeak

Keeping my left arm straight on the backswing seemd to cut out my slicing and it was happening me for a LONG time! Practice swinging with ur left arm as straight, if u already do it then sorry cant help

alxmorgan

Can I suggest posting a video ?

Lots of things could help....grip, alignment, swing path, distance from ball, bowed wrist, elbows tight to body, straighter left arm, putting away the driver (:D)

If we could see it might help

ThunderCat

To be fair, a slice is a very common complaint and I think the problem lies with the pro given the fact he wasnt able to cure it within 8 lessons. Either his techniques were not registering with you (in which case he should have tried something different) or more likely he wanted your repeat business and money. I mean, even if they were only 30min lessons, he had 4 hours to get rid of a slice. Id suggest going to a different pro or if money is an issue there are plenty of videos on youtube that will help you. I suffered for a while with a slice and for me it was because I wasnt swinging around my body properly but your reason for slicing could be something different. Its soul destroying but can be fixed.

Benny Cake

I find it strange that your pro couldnt fix the problem in 8 lessons.. can I ask what were the main things he had you working on?

stockdam

Most people live with a slice for all their golfing life.

A lot can be done with proper alignment and setup.

Unfortunately sometimes a "move" is ingrained and the only cure is a frontal lobotomy.

denishurley

My slice is caused by the fact that sometimes I don't turn my shoulder enough, been trying to eradicate it but it's a slow enough process

slave1

Bought a 'draw' set of woods and slice gone immediately

BiffoGooner

slave1 wrote: »

Bought a 'draw' set of woods and slice gone immediately

Why don't you just close the face a bit at address with your old clubs and save yourself a few quid? Same thing.

Rabidlamb

To much tension in the arms or grip is often the cause.
Try loosening your grip slightly & visualize Pete Sampras hitting a forehand top spinning winner.

shaviebeby

could be a million different reasons. Post a video of your swing and we'll analyse it down the line shot!!!

deanswift

give up golf

tayto lover

If you imagine that the ball is at the centre of a clock. Swing through 7 o'clock in a swing plane aiming for 1 o'clock and follow through. Practicing that cured me.
Also if you have a wall in your garden and put a sod (no ball needed) against the wall and practice hitting the sod without touching the wall. Use an old club in case. This stops you swinging from outside to in side i.e. slice swinging.

blackwhite

tayto lover wrote: »

If you imagine that the ball is at the centre of a clock. Swing through 7 o'clock in a swing plane aiming for 1 o'clock and follow through. Practicing that cured me.
Also if you have a wall in your garden and put a sod (no ball needed) against the wall and practice hitting the sod without touching the wall. Use an old club in case. This stops you swinging from outside to in side i.e. slice swinging.

Left handed then?

For a right handed golfer I'd imagine it'd be 5 o'clock to 11 o'clock....

charlieIRL

tayto lover wrote: »

If you imagine that the ball is at the centre of a clock. Swing through 7 o'clock in a swing plane aiming for 1 o'clock and follow through. Practicing that cured me.
Also if you have a wall in your garden and put a sod (no ball needed) against the wall and practice hitting the sod without touching the wall. Use an old club in case. This stops you swinging from outside to in side i.e. slice swinging.

I use an old car tyre and an old iron for the same drill.

My problem was i was turning my hips to slowly

stockdam

blackwhite wrote: »

Left handed then?

For a right handed golfer I'd imagine it'd be 5 o'clock to 11 o'clock....

No - 5 to 11 will be out to in. 12 O'clock is straight ahead down the line.

blackwhite

stockdam wrote: »

No - 5 to 11 will be out to in. 12 O'clock is straight ahead down the line.

I though you meant 12 o'clock being straight ahead of you, i.e. line of shot is 3 to 9.

tayto lover

blackwhite wrote: »

Left handed then?

For a right handed golfer I'd imagine it'd be 5 o'clock to 11 o'clock....

No right-handed. If you imagine that the target is at 12 and the ball in the centre of the clock. To stop you slicing your club should not hit 6 but come through a swing plane of about 7 going towards 1 to make you hit out. The ball will actually fly slightly right of target but get a little draw back to 12 with more forward spin and extra yardage too.
That's how the professional got rid of my slice in one lesson. It worked for me but needs practice. The hardest part was convincing myself to hit out towards 1 o'clock and through the ball.

alxmorgan

tayto lover wrote: »

No right-handed. If you imagine that the target is at 12 and the ball in the centre of the clock. To stop you slicing your club should not hit 6 but come through a swing plane of about 7 going towards 1 to make you hit out. The ball will actually fly slightly right of target but get a little draw back to 12 with more forward spin and extra yardage too.
That's how the professional got rid of my slice in one lesson. It worked for me but needs practice. The hardest part was convincing myself to hit out towards 1 o'clock and through the ball.

I've tried this mainly when driving to put some draw on it and gain some extra distance but occasionally turns into a nasty hook
You found this or know why it happens ?

tayto lover

alxmorgan wrote: »

I've tried this mainly when driving to put some draw on it and gain some extra distance but occasionally turns into a nasty hook
You found this or know why it happens ?

I think its because you are not following through to 1 o'clock. You should remain in that plane until you have hit the ball and your swing has gone to its highest point in the arc. It requires a lot of practice. It did for me anyway as i had a terrible slice for years beforehand, but i have it right now by using this method. I have to say that the little drill with the sod beside the wall helped cure my out to in action too.
I have still many problems, putting mainly, but since i started to draw the ball instead of slicing i have lost 3 shots. That's only since last year too.

k.p.h

alxmorgan wrote: »

I've tried this mainly when driving to put some draw on it and gain some extra distance but occasionally turns into a nasty hook
You found this or know why it happens ?

Their are lots of reasons for a hook, but after a good bit of research I think it could be summed up in regard to higher handicaps with the statement,

When setup & grip are of a "slice" but swing-path is a draw it turns into a "hook". :rolleyes:

That then leads to a quote i saw somewhere else..

"Good golf starts in the trees on the left"

Seriously though, playing with a slice (as pretty much everyone dose in the beginning) leads to compensations having to be made in the swing that are going to cause problems down the line as the swing improves. A slicer will usually tend to have a strong right hand grip position, and a weak left hand grip position. leaving the hands not unified at all (which is really not that effective).

This is the best picture I could find to show the positions. So you take the right hand of the strong and the left hand of the weak and thats the position (or some variant of it) that I'm on about.



When you combine that grip with the reason for a slice, which is the "swing path" things get messy.

The guy on the top right of this picture is going to slice the ball with that swing path or maybe by a little miracle square the club-face with the swing path and pull it into next week. One thing is for sure nothing good is happening anyway.



When you combine that swing path and that grip no type of proper release can happen. The only thing that can really happen is a weak (wristy) flip or if some effort is made at a proper release it will become the snap hook to end all snap hooks..! So basically slicers have to learn how to hold off any type of release to even have a chance of hitting their target.

It's these types of compensations that make it so hard to shake a slice. the longer you leave it and try to play with the the more ingrained the moves become and the harder it is to get everything back to neutral. Thats when stockdams "frontal lobotomy" starts to look like a good option.

I tried every quick fix in the beginning to try and shake my slice, and none of them worked. Read every thread and watched every youtube video I could find on the subject. What a waste of 18 months. I can now categorically say the only proper way to cure a slice is

Take a neutral grip
Solid Setup
Take the club back square and on plane.

These 3 things really reduce the chances of a slice by about 90%, and if you still have a swing path like the guy in the top right of the picture, you simply just need to stop doing that..! And copy the guy in the bottom right ..:p

If the OP has went to see a Pro 8 times and they have not started working on these 3 things their is really something wrong, time to change the pro. :pac::pac:

sssssiiiiimon

Bandana boy wrote: »

Move your loose change from your back right pocket to your front left

Turn your cap backwards and put a tee behind your left ear.

foxyboxer

I suggest you get wasted. You always play better when you're wasted.


And stop thinking about the Doctor Lady.

newport2

OP, after reading through this thread I've concluded that, as an amateur golfer myself, the only sound piece of advice I can give you is do not take advice from amateur golfers.

(especially ones who have never seen your swing!)

stockdam

Strange first post to quote a website.......are you sure it's not your own?

Anyway.............


To cure your slice will take time and lots of practice. Do not attempt this if you aren't going to practice.


Lay a club on the ground pointing at your target.
Setup so that your feet and your shoulders are pointing to the right of your target with the ball just inside your left heel (right hander)
Address the ball but don't grip.
Make sure that your clubface is pointing to the target (not to the right of it as your hips and shoulders are).
Now take your grip.

If you do this right then you will be aiming to the right but your clubface will be pointing at your target.

Now swing along your shoulder line - your swing will be in-to-out with repsect to the target line. You are in effect aiming and swinging out to the right but your clubface is looking at the target. Do not try to manipulate the clubface and don't worry where the ball goes. You will feel really strange and closed.

If this doesn't work then try strengthening your grip.

The problem is that you may still want to come over the top and swing to the left from out to in or manipulate the clubface.