what next for Tipperary?

teednab-el

Seeming they failed to win back to back all Irelands this year, can Tipperary come back from this or have Kilkenny reached another level? Will the hurt of this defeat drive them on and can they win the All Ireland in 2012?

Kojak

They are still the second best team in Ireland, have a huge amount of their players in their early twenties (on average a younger team than KK) and will learn from this defeat for next year.

Look at it this way, who do you think will be in the AI final next year? Most likely KK and Tipp again - could be another role reversal of this year.

Tipp are by no means finished imo.

bassy

theres a few all-irelands in that tipp side,and im a kk man who was at croke park today

jive

Ah Jesus Tipp are done. Today has changed everything and they should change the whole panel. That manager and them selectors have to go as well. It's become a farce. They were destroyed today and were never within touching distance. A few of those lads need to take a long hard look at themselves and hang up their hurleys.


OR they could continue to improve and naturally their younger players will mature and develop so that they can win the AI again in the not so distant future. But nah probably what I said first because we are fickle sports fans after all.

ft9

jive wrote: »

Ah Jesus Tipp are done. Today has changed everything and they should change the whole panel. That manager and them selectors have to go as well. It's become a farce. They were destroyed today and were never within touching distance. A few of those lads need to take a long hard look at themselves and hang up their hurleys.


OR they could continue to improve and naturally their younger players will mature and develop so that they can win the AI again in the not so distant future. But nah probably what I said first because we are fickle sports fans after all.

Seriously?

jive

ft9 wrote: »

Seriously?

More like is there seriously a need for this thread. Tipp beaten marginally by a better team on the day and we have a 'can Tipp come back from this?' thread? I didn't read this forum last year but I'd hazard a guess that similar questions were asked about KK and... well..... yeah

ft9

jive wrote: »

More like is there seriously a need for this thread. Tipp beaten marginally by a better team on the day and we have a 'can Tipp come back from this?' thread? I didn't read this forum last year but I'd hazard a guess that similar questions were asked about KK and... well..... yeah

Thank christ Jive, I thought ya were loosin yar marbles, clearly not.

H'on KILKENNY

jive

ft9 wrote: »

Thank christ Jive, I thought ya were loosin yar marbles, clearly not.

sarcasm gets lost on the way from the keyboard to the internet

Go on John Mullane. Next year is our year*......:pac:



*next year is our year being sarcasm

MfMan

Kojak wrote: »

They are still the second best team in Ireland, have a huge amount of their players in their early twenties (on average a younger team than KK) and will learn from this defeat for next year.

Look at it this way, who do you think will be in the AI final next year? Most likely KK and Tipp again - could be another role reversal of this year.

Tipp are by no means finished imo.

Actually, radio mentioned yesterday that KK are on average older than Tipp, only by something over a year, strange as that seems.

Where to now for Tipp? Hard to say. Their young players will be much the better for yesterday's experience, bad and all as it seems now. Their defence should be reasonably ok again in 2012, midfield needs to step it up a bit but Brendan Maher on full power will help there. Forwards a concern; Eoin Kelly looks nearly gone, Lar Corbett dilettante-ish, Callanan inconsistent, O'Brien not a huge scorer, Bonnar ditto. New blood needed there, methinks. Pa Bourke will surely start more next year.

I suppose people will look at the management team firstly and scrutinise their decisions and make comparisons with Liam Sheedy, Michael Ryan and Eamon O'Shea but in all honesty people forget that Tipp lost badly to Cork in PUC back in 2010 before going on to win the All Ireland. Look these things happen. Best to forget about them and move on. Just seen images of the Tipp players during the presentation and the hurt on their faces and anguish is good in one way. Reminds me of Kilkenny last year and look how determined they came back. We can do exactly the same.
In fairness to Declan Ryan, Tommy Dunne and Michael Gleeson they are brave men to come in and take over an All Ireland winning team as alot of proven managers in the county were extremely reluctant to do it especially given the professional and very familylike setup that went beforehand. We also forget that behind this great Kilkenny team there is not just a will to win but a tremendous phobia of losing. They have had their bad days out in the showpiece too. They lost 2 finals in 98 and 99 (Granted in 98 Cody wasnt the manager) and lost in 2004 where they only registered 1 or 2 scores in the second half and they were caught on the hop in 01 and 05 by Galway so despite their enviable success lies a few bad days that kept them ticking over.

You must remember that Tipperary cannot be deterred by yesterdays defeat but come back determined and i believe we will. Mark my words this could be the making of a long and fruitful odyssey
Also it is my opinion that open training sessions are a great thing but i have to say that Tipp need to have the odd few closed sessions too. Kilkenny have realised this and now we must do the same.

DoctaDee

I have a Lar Corbett endorsed sliotar that meself and the kids were puckin around the last few weeks and yesterday morning ... is it too early to trade it in for something decent :rolleyes:

Skyrim

Thought the tipp backs stood up well considering the intense pressure they were under throughout. It's only one defeat anyway and so long as lessons are learned for the future.

Ah nuts

Minor football all Ireland final.

Skyrim

Not forgetting this tipp team have reached the all ireland final 3 years in a row which is a very hard thing to do. Fair play to Bonner Maher, ran his legs off and a few half chances he had could have been put away, tommy walsh acknowledged that bonner did make life a bit difficult at times.