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Receiving things through praying

  • 03-09-2011 3:35pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭


    I have noticed there is a thanksgiving section in my local paper, where people write prayers and at the end it says, must promise publication in return for favour being granted. There's alot of prayers, so there's alot of favours being granted. From just praying.

    So my question is do people really get things they want through praying? Is it really that easy to get an iphone? Or other things?

    Do the people of after hours pray for stuff and do you get it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    lol

    I pray that this doesn't turn into a religion thread. Let's see how that goes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭tallaghtmick


    I pray this thread doesnt turn into a christian vs athiest thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Got the ride after praying....no wait begging...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    praying = paying when there's an R in the month.......:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Got the ride after praying....

    Do you mean preying?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    All i know is, when it came time for exams the church beside the exam hall was full EVERY morning.

    Say what you like folks, whwn the chips are down the beads come out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,813 ✭✭✭themadchef


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Got the ride after praying....no wait begging...

    No wait spiking? :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    It's only doctors praying that their silly medical science will work for gravely ill patients.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Praying? Bah!

    Crom answers no prayers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    themadchef wrote: »
    All i know is, when it came time for exams the church beside the exam hall was full EVERY morning.

    Say what you like folks, whwn the chips are down the beads come out.

    Hmmm...chips....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,183 ✭✭✭✭Will


    Praying, the last bastion of hope for the deluded and those who want something but too lazy to work for it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    I have noticed there is a thanksgiving section in my local paper, where people write prayers and at the end it says, must promise publication in return for favour being granted. There's alot of prayers, so there's alot of favours being granted. From just praying

    No. You have to print your thanks in the paper before your prayers will be answered. It's like a stupid chain-letter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 916 ✭✭✭Bloody Nipples


    lol

    I pray that this doesn't turn into a religion thread. Let's see how that goes
    I pray this thread doesnt turn into a christian vs athiest thread.

    I was going to do it but I won't now.

    Never knock the power of prayer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    TheZohan wrote: »
    No. You have to print your thanks in the paper before your prayers will be answered. It's like a stupid chain-letter.

    Don't normal people say thanks after getting it ? It doesn't make sense to say thanks before.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    Prayer is a very powerful psychological instrument.

    The power of the mind is immense and if one believes genuinely it will often influence their actions into achieving what they previously thought unattainable.

    It is also a powerful weapon or tool used by religious leaders to fool the public into thinking that magical manifestations can arrive through prayer.

    I used to get things, as a boy going to school with no TV cinema was one of my favourite outlets, but two problems always persisted, one was the cost of admission and the run of the movie that it might stay in long enough for me to have a half day [back in those days a film might last a day or two, and different films would be at the weekends ~ so I was not always free to see my favourites].

    Anyhow, Our Lady, Mary got me in to see a whole bunch of them for a while ~ then one film Born Free was gone and I did not get a change to see it ~ I gave out yards, little greedy git I was and stayed away from Mass and started praying to St Anthony instead.

    But as time passed I owe Our lady and apology as when I did finally get to see Born Free so many years later ~ she had actually saved me from one of the worst film ever ~ so I guess she knew that, she could have told me or appeared at end of the garden or something like .... piffft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,270 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    The last time I properly prayed was just before penalties in the 2008 Champions League final. I actually said a quick prayer in front of my Mam's Jesus picture (Dunno the proper name for those things). I was desperate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Don't normal people say thanks after getting it ? It doesn't make sense to say thanks before.


    That's how the system works, have to put an advert in the paper saying thanks before you're granted what you ask for. It's a con.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Don't normal people say thanks after getting it ? It doesn't make sense to say thanks before.

    Praying for sh*t doesn't make sense anyway.

    People are morons. People who print thanks in the newspaper for answers to their prayers are uber-morons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    My mother swears by these things in the paper, says it has never let her down, must have done it 5 or six times, only for major things mind.


    If I was God and someone was praying for an ipod or something trivial I would tell em to fcuk off


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    Governor of Texas and presidential hopeful Rick Perry recently had a gigantic prayer meeting in a stadium in Austin because he has concluded that the economic problems that America is facing are beyond the abilities of politicians to fix and that the only solution is to pray to god to fix them instead.

    No reply from god yet, but it is certainly nice to see a politician come up with a solid plan to fix their problems. Perhaps we should send Enda out with some dowsing rods and see if we can't dig up some oil, might solve all our problems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    If I was God and someone was praying for an ipod or something trivial I would tell em to fcuk off
    If I were God and I saw some relatively comfortable Irish chick praying for something while children starved in Somalia I'd tell them to fcuk off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭tsoparno


    dunno bout u lot but i'm praying for the lotto numbers them damn athiest's don't know what their missing ha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Most people pray only when there in trouble or they want something, Dont know if it works but i am praying Dublin will beat kerry in this years AI, tell you then :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    If I were God and I saw some relatively comfortable Irish chick praying for something while children starved in Somalia I'd tell them to fcuk off.
    Is that a dig at my mother? How the fcuk do you what she had being praying for ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 136 ✭✭Ben Moore


    I never really bought in to the whole power of prayer but my Grandmother swore by Saint Antony to help her find things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,903 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Do you mean preying?

    No sorry I meant paying...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭Taco Corp


    You don't receive stuff by praying. You steal it and then pray for forgiveness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 904 ✭✭✭MetalDog


    themadchef wrote: »
    All i know is, when it came time for exams the church beside the exam hall was full EVERY morning.

    Say what you like folks, whwn the chips are down the beads come out.

    Surely they could spend that time studying instead? Oh no wait, that would make sense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭OneArt


    Prayer is meant to be used a time of quiet reflection and communion with one's god. I understand if people are going through a tough time asking for strength or a little help in finding what they need, or asking to come across an answer to their problem.

    Asking for things like an iPhone or a new TV is just being materialistic which kind of defeats the point of religion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Never pray for a man or money, it's bad luck and will never happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    People only remember the things they pray for and it comes true. What about about the things which don't?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,013 ✭✭✭kincsem


    I prayed to St Anthony to help me find my TV remote control, and I found it. St Anthony is brilliant for finding things. But I'm sure it is because if you are praying and still looking you will find.

    Nothing like a good pray.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    OneArt wrote: »
    Prayer is meant to be used a time of quiet reflection and communion with one's god. I understand if people are going through a tough time asking for strength or a little help in finding what they need, or asking to come across an answer to their problem.

    Asking for things like an iPhone or a new TV is just being materialistic which kind of defeats the point of religion.

    yeah its not like the pope lives in a palace now is i...

    oh...never mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    People only remember the things they pray for and it comes true. What about about the things which don't?

    gods will, in which case praying was pointless since he planned on say killing someone you knew all along, lulz that Yahweh, such a kidder.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    There was a huge stirring of interest in those prayer things in the newspapers, oh years ago, must have been around 1980s, and the RC church said that they didn't approve of them. However the local paper approved of them as it made lots of money out of them, guaranteed a full page of ads every week. And so it goes on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 93 ✭✭eirn


    My mother told me that after she got married she went to knock to pray that she get pregnant, a few years (and babies) later she had to go back and pray that we stopped arriving. Poor Ma!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Is that a dig at my mother? How the fcuk do you what she had being praying for ffs
    It's not. I've just always thought - even as a young Catholic who prayed - there was something a bit arrogant about expecting one's wishes to be granted when there are people out there whose needs are clearly greater. You might think it's a bit brazen to pray for a new iPod. I think most of the problems we encounter are similarly trivial when compared with those of kids in Africa praying for food.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭OneArt


    krudler wrote: »
    yeah its not like the pope lives in a palace now is i...

    oh...never mind.

    My point exactly!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    It misses the point of prayer as far as I see it. If God said yes to all our prayers He wouldn't be God, He would be our puppet. I accept that He is Lord and that He knows best and that mightn't always be what I think is best.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭texidub


    I prayed for rain but got this stupid t-shirt instead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭tan11ie


    Empty waste of time IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    philologos wrote: »
    It misses the point of prayer as far as I see it. If God said yes to all our prayers He wouldn't be God, He would be our puppet. I accept that He is Lord and that He knows best and that mightn't always be what I think is best.

    Aye and what about the times when he acts as an independent agent and does shìt like create tsunamis that kill hundreds of thousands of people? Is he having a laugh then or bored or what?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Duke Leonal Felmet


    Has this been posted yet?

    http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

    End of thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    tan11ie wrote: »
    Empty waste of time IMO.
    It's pretty obvious that praying doesn't actually alter the course of reality, but I guess it works for some as a coping mechanism, or as a meditational device.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Aye and what about the times when he acts as an independent agent and does shìt like create tsunamis that kill hundreds of thousands of people? Is he having a laugh then or bored or what?

    I'd say he is playing truth or dare.

    of topic, I dreamt I was dead last night, I was walking around with all these dead people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Aye and what about the times when he acts as an independent agent and does shìt like create tsunamis that kill hundreds of thousands of people? Is he having a laugh then or bored or what?

    What's the logic that got you here from my post? Just curious?

    As for the "Why won't God heal amputees?", it's a woeful argument as it is begging the question. One of the most rudimentary informal fallacies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭tan11ie


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    It's pretty obvious that praying doesn't actually alter the course of reality, but I guess it works for some as a coping mechanism, or as a meditational device.

    Yes I'm well aware it helps a lot of people through tough times but i've come to realise religion to me is a farce.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    philologos wrote: »
    What's the logic that got you here from my post? Just curious?

    As for the "Why won't God heal amputees?", it's a woeful argument as it is begging the question. One of the most rudimentary informal fallacies.

    Well an amputee is different, they may have lost a limb through an accident etc through their own actions. But a tsunami....that's just god acting the bollocks and hurting innocents. Worse than Hitler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Duke Leonal Felmet


    philologos wrote: »
    What's the logic that got you here from my post? Just curious?

    As for the "Why won't God heal amputees?", it's a woeful argument as it is begging the question. One of the most rudimentary informal fallacies.

    Yawn. Another sidestep.

    The sick pray and claim to be healed by God.

    The amputees pray and don't get healed.

    Funny, that.


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