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does anyone agree about sundays hurling final?.

  • 03-09-2011 2:39am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,612 ✭✭✭


    that its a total disgrace that kids should be charged 80 euros for entry?,ok i know theres standing tickets for 40.but would you really want your kids to be standing and in a maybe rowdy mix of countys.i know i wouldnt want my child standing possibly or rather in the rain.

    its a disgrace to charge 80 euros,and the semi,s were 5 quid a child.
    the gaa are as greedy as the high paid premiership mercenary football players.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    Pay 40 to stand with the risk of that terrible rain (raincoats, anyone?) bouncing off your child's head. Or fork out the extra 80 for a seated ticket. There's a big demand for tickets for the finals, pay up or shut up I say. 80/40 isn't astronomical for a final ticket imo. It's fairly reasonable considering the entire season has culminated for Sunday. The finals are pretty much always a sell out whereas for the semi's and other games they do cheaper tickets to get families through the gates. They don't have to for the finals and therefore they don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,612 ✭✭✭bassy


    jive wrote: »
    Pay 40 to stand with the risk of that terrible rain (raincoats, anyone?) bouncing off your child's head. Or fork out the extra 80 for a seated ticket. There's a big demand for tickets for the finals, pay up or shut up I say. 80/40 isn't astronomical for a final ticket imo. It's fairly reasonable considering the entire season has culminated for Sunday. The finals are pretty much always a sell out whereas for the semi's and other games they do cheaper tickets to get families through the gates. They don't have to for the finals and therefore they don't.

    a big demand for tickets?,a local club i was told today sent back 40 tickets.
    was talking to a friend from tipp on the phone and he also mentioned a lot of tickets from clubs in kk being sent back to head quarters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭lovelypoint


    Is there not a seperate price for kids/ u-16's than adults ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    Personally if i chose to attend the final i would be happy to pay €80 for a ticket. However i do believe the gaa admin made a serious error as we are fast reaching the stage that Croke park will only be full when Dublin are involved in the final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,040 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Personally if i chose to attend the final i would be happy to pay €80 for a ticket. However i do believe the gaa admin made a serious error as we are fast reaching the stage that Croke park will only be full when Dublin are involved in the final.

    I totally agree with you.
    I firmly believe that there should be a "family section" for the final too where parents and children could sit together. To charge 80e for a child is a rip-off.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    There are usually family tickets available, my parents often bring my nephews to games and avail of those tickets, I know they got the family ticket last year so I know they were available last year.

    Also, an important factor is the GAA aren't selling tickets for seats, not by the amount of space taken up, airlines charge the same for a 13 year old as they do for a 23 year old. It's also and optional event to go to or to bring anyone to, I remember in 92 being at the Munster Final with friends of mine & their father, they didn't go to the All Ireland Semi final because of the price of tickets, that was 20 years ago, it's not a new thing that ticket prices aren't for everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,040 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Clareman wrote: »
    There are usually family tickets available, my parents often bring my nephews to games and avail of those tickets, I know they got the family ticket last year so I know they were available last year.

    Also, an important factor is the GAA aren't selling tickets for seats, not by the amount of space taken up, airlines charge the same for a 13 year old as they do for a 23 year old. It's also and optional event to go to or to bring anyone to, I remember in 92 being at the Munster Final with friends of mine & their father, they didn't go to the All Ireland Semi final because of the price of tickets, that was 20 years ago, it's not a new thing that ticket prices aren't for everyone.

    The G.A.A. are losing the run of themselves. They are an amateur organisation charging professional prices. They are forgetting about the grassroots of the organisation, the people who made it, by pricing them out of their own organisation.
    Its good to know that the family tickets still exist as i haven't used them since my kids grew up. I thought they ended.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I will admit that they do have a weird pricing structure, but you can get a season ticket, or other debenture card solutions to get tickets, get down to your local championship games and you'll get to see them for a €10 or less, the All Ireland Intermediate final was €20 for example. The GAA lowered their prices for all championship games up until the final. As a Munster season ticket holder who pays €50 regularly for matches, €80 for the biggest match of the year, with a good game before hand as well as a day of events isn't overly expensive imvho, but different strokes for different folks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭KerranJast


    Simple supply and demand. There's demand for tickets so prices go up. And to whoever said the GAA are amateur organisation, they're not. They're a professionally operated outfit with amateur players and volunteers. People are paid a salary to maximise revenue for the GAA which feeds grassroots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    KerranJast wrote: »
    Simple supply and demand. There's demand for tickets so prices go up. And to whoever said the GAA are amateur organisation, they're not. They're a professionally operated outfit with amateur players and volunteers. People are paid a salary to maximise revenue for the GAA which feeds grassroots.

    I suppose we will have to wait until around 3.30 pm tomorrow to see if they got the "supply and demand" equation right for this match though there will be no problem selling the football tickets.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,040 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    KerranJast wrote: »
    Simple supply and demand. There's demand for tickets so prices go up. And to whoever said the GAA are amateur organisation, they're not. They're a professionally operated outfit with amateur players and volunteers. People are paid a salary to maximise revenue for the GAA which feeds grassroots.

    Supply and demand does not seem to be working in the Aviva.
    If the G.A.A. are content with having the stadium full twice a year because of their prices then that's ok I suppose but I would not even take that for granted. Lots of Kilkenny tickets being returned it seems.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    Is there not a seperate price for kids/ u-16's than adults ?

    Nope. 1 year old babies have to have 80 euro dished out for them, as they must occupy a seat under health and safety regulations. It will be the highest attendance of the hurling championship so far, but not a sell out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    €80 for a final is not bad. You'd pay that for a regular match in the premiership and there'd be no minor match. So €80 for the top match in Hurling of the year, plus a minor match is great value when you really sit down and think about it. What were they charging in Lansdowne last night and there was no score and no minor match there either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,369 ✭✭✭LostBoy101


    Aye it's a disagrace these days and the GAA = Grab All Association.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭UpTheSlashers


    An embarassingly cringeworthy thread. Kids can get into any match all year for less than a fiver, the GAA have every right to charge full price for the 2 showpiece events.

    Even adults can get €10 stand tickets for the quarter and semi-finals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭lovelypoint


    Nope. 1 year old babies have to have 80 euro dished out for them, as they must occupy a seat under health and safety regulations. It will be the highest attendance of the hurling championship so far, but not a sell out.

    Thats a bit rough then. I understand the need to all patrons to have a seat, but for all other games, the pricing varies, and kids/ U-16's do not get charged full whack. In all though, I think the demand for the All-Ireland final is inelastic, and the demand will be there regardless of price, I would imagine, and regardless of price is probably the one game you would beg/ borrow/ steal to attend if your county was there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Nobody is forcing you to pay or even watch the match. Sure they could be cheaper but when you consider the demand for those tickets you must expect a price increase. When it costs nothing or only a 5er for kids to go to matches throughout the year you can't really blame the GAA for wanting to make as much revenue as possible for the 2 big matches of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    Why oh why cant the GAA have more than one "tier" of prices for seated tickets? 80 quid for the best seat on half-way in the hogan & 80 quid for the canal end three rows from the front where all you can see is the goal keepers ar5e through the net!!

    By setting the cost of tickets depending on the part of stadium there would be a ticket to suit everyones pocket...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭UpTheSlashers


    D_Red_Army wrote: »
    Why oh why cant the GAA have more than one "tier" of prices for seated tickets? 80 quid for the best seat on half-way in the hogan & 80 quid for the canal end three rows from the front where all you can see is the goal keepers ar5e through the net!!

    By setting the cost of tickets depending on the part of stadium there would be a ticket to suit everyones pocket...

    They do it for the other matches. Just not the final.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    I would be very happy to pay if my county was in the final but i would suggest that if tickets are being sent back from Kilkenny they are too dear.
    In my opinion the gaa need to have Croke park full tomorrow and if there is empty seats extra revenue will not make a blind bit of difference.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    If they are going with a parent they really should get in free the electric picnic does it.

    You're comparing Electric Picnic with a limited capacity stadium, seriously?:rolleyes:
    Love hurling and everything about it but for a supposed amature sport you really would wonder what the top necks really are doing with the huge amount of gate fees they make. They say it all goes into local clubs around the contry but judging by some of the clubs Ive been to you really would wonder.

    That's a very serious allegation to level at anyone, so if you'd like to provide even the slimmest shred of evidence to back it up, then go ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    There is certainly a hugh disparity to what is happening tomorrow and if you visit any of the smaller clubs around the country this is plain to be seen and i certainly do not believe the funds are shared.
    I know the local club here are always fund raising and they never ever got any financial support from HQ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,684 ✭✭✭eigrod


    I wouldn't criticise the GAA at all for their approach to ticket pricing for children, quite the opposite in fact.

    You will pay €5 for children for any and all Championship games up to the final, for most qualifiers and league games kids are free.

    To have to pay full price for the showpiece is acceptable in my opinion, albeit its a lot of money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,612 ✭✭✭bassy


    am going over to see the great man united v benfica in champions league game for 99 euros daytrip,so make what you will out of that when you have to give 80 euros and travel to dublin to see a all-ireland final.


    Flukey wrote: »
    €80 for a final is not bad. You'd pay that for a regular match in the premiership and there'd be no minor match. So €80 for the top match in Hurling of the year, plus a minor match is great value when you really sit down and think about it. What were they charging in Lansdowne last night and there was no score and no minor match there either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    bassy wrote: »
    am going over to see the great man united v benfica in champions league game for 99 euros daytrip,so make what you will out of that when you have to give 80 euros and travel to dublin to see a all-ireland final.

    In the group stages of the champions league? Perhaps you should compare it to the final at Wembley last year (as it would be the equivalent, the final and all) where I believe the lowest ticket price on public sale was €175. I believe Platini even apologised at the time for the price of the tickets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,612 ✭✭✭bassy


    it would not be the equivalent,what a statement with comparisment :rolleyes:

    jive wrote: »
    In the group stages of the champions league? Perhaps you should compare it to the final at Wembley last year (as it would be the equivalent, the final and all) where I believe the lowest ticket price on public sale was €175. I believe Platini even apologised at the time for the price of the tickets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    bassy wrote: »
    it would not be the equivalent,what a statement with comparisment :rolleyes:

    It would be the equivalent. The group stages are not held at neutral venues whereas the AI final and the CL final are. Surely if we're comparing like with like then we'd be comparing the finals? We're not discussing the AI championship qualifiers or provincial championships where the tickets were cheaper for kids. We're talking about the grand final of both competitions. Like with like as it were.

    "what a statement with comparisment :rolleyes:" I have no idea what this means.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Temp Barry


    Not one club in Kilkenny sent back tickets.
    That story came from the Independent, and it was an error/lie.

    I find it absolutely incredible that some people expect concession prices for sell-out finals, in any sport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,787 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    There is absolutely no reason why children should get into Croke Park for a lower price when there are more than enough adults willing to pay the full price to get in, and will probably be plenty who still don't manage to get their hands on the ticket.

    Children don't have any more right than an adult to go/be brought to a game, the idea that they ought to be let in for cheaper on the day of the AIF is meritless.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,425 ✭✭✭maestroamado


    to me it's a pretty daft compasion to compare our national game to a game that is play all over the world on a professional basis considering our game is we are told is amatuer or at least the players do not get paid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭Prop Joe


    E80 is a respectable price for a final...No If's or but's...
    In comparison to FA cup final,Heineken cup etc..
    Although some people want tickets for a fiver..they prob wouldnt go anyway..With the price reductions for all the games up to the final..You would actually be saving over the course of the year..
    but maybe you only go once a year..


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    Prop Joe wrote: »
    E80 is a respectable price for a final...No If's or but's...
    In comparison to FA cup final,Heineken cup etc..
    Although some people want tickets for a fiver..they prob wouldnt go anyway..With the price reductions for all the games up to the final..You would actually be saving over the course of the year..
    but maybe you only go once a year..

    this has been dicussed on here so often, yet no one actually listens to it. you have the ticket thread and lads saying they go to every game their team has played, but dont bother getting a season ticket.

    if the tickets were cheaper for the final you'd have people still whinging. no one came on to set up a thread about the price reductions to all the qualifiers and other games, nor how kids prices were slashed and free at league games. no, the final is €10 more. horror of horrors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    An embarassingly cringeworthy thread. Kids can get into any match all year for less than a fiver, the GAA have every right to charge full price for the 2 showpiece events.

    Even adults can get €10 stand tickets for the quarter and semi-finals.

    I cannot agree with this. The show piece should be an event that all members can attend, after all that is the ethos of the GAA. Croke park is slowly becoming Corporate park. There is a lot wrong with the leadership and managment of the GAA currently and I think the president is the main problem. From stopping the traditional on pitch celebrations to the geneorus ticket allocation to himself (1000 tickets to the GAA ceann comhairle, 4 each to the panellists!). And the price increase for the final coupled with the lack of family tickets at a time when a lot of good life time GAA supporters are struggling really stinks, a business decision with no thought to members. Take a family with for example 3 kids, having to pay out 400 euros before getting to dublin, that is not the inclusive nature of what the GAA should be to all members. I wont get on to Christy Cooneys salary and expenses either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    jive wrote: »
    It would be the equivalent. The group stages are not held at neutral venues whereas the AI final and the CL final are. Surely if we're comparing like with like then we'd be comparing the finals? We're not discussing the AI championship qualifiers or provincial championships where the tickets were cheaper for kids. We're talking about the grand final of both competitions. Like with like as it were.

    "what a statement with comparisment :rolleyes:" I have no idea what this means.
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    Do you honestly think that is like with like?

    The GAA is supposedly an amateur organisation run for the promotion of gaelic games for all it's members.

    The champions league most certainly is not.

    The All-Ireland final should not be out of reach for the average family, but it is getting that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    dirtyden wrote: »
    Do you honestly think that is like with like?

    The GAA is supposedly an amateur organisation run for the promotion of gaelic games for all it's members.

    The champions league most certainly is not.

    The All-Ireland final should not be out of reach for the average family, but it is getting that way.

    No but the poster previously said "am going over to see the great man united v benfica in champions league game for 99 euros daytrip,so make what you will out of that" so what I said was in response to that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 426 ✭✭lovelypoint


    I think the biggest issue here is the gulf in price between the final compared to the semi-final, and the fact someone who could attend the semi's might not be able to attend the final due to price. Everyone expects successive games to be more expensive, and while nobody who understands how the GAA works in terms to redistributing profits among the grassroots, there would appear to be a level of profiteering going on when it comes to the finals this year. To be honest, I can understand the increase, and the cuteness behind it, but at the end of the day games should be acessible to members, and why should the final be twice as expensive as the semi..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭DH2K9


    It's the two biggest matches of the year, the two All-Ireland finals. They gt a fair bit of money out of it which goes straight back to the clubs. Nobody is forcing anybody to pay 80 quid and considering kids get in for a fiver or free all year round. I think it is reasonable that the GAA get the chance to get a bit of extra income for the final.

    By the way in every other major sporting event around the world, you can't get kids tickets for ie: Champions league Final, Heineken Cup final etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Make adult tickets €100 each and kids €25 each.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    I think the biggest issue here is the gulf in price between the final compared to the semi-final, and the fact someone who could attend the semi's might not be able to attend the final due to price. Everyone expects successive games to be more expensive, and while nobody who understands how the GAA works in terms to redistributing profits among the grassroots, there would appear to be a level of profiteering going on when it comes to the finals this year. To be honest, I can understand the increase, and the cuteness behind it, but at the end of the day games should be acessible to members, and why should the final be twice as expensive as the semi..

    the reason its twice as expensive is because they lowered all the other prices. which is better? increasing the smei final tickets by €20, and decrease the final by €10, or have a decrease on all the qualifier games before the finals? the reason it looks so bad for the final is because there is unbelievable value for every other single game that was played this year.


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