A Football Life: Bill Belichick

BaronVon

http://www.nfl.com/videos/a-football-life

Looks like another top rate NFL production.....

Coll79

When will this be available to watch or how? The NFL are above and beyond everyone when it comes to making these programmes.

Itssoeasy

The NFL and NFL Films are the standard bearers when it comes to this kind of thing.

Itssoeasy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy2647zZqD8

Oleg Luzhny

This looks like it will be terrific.

f1dan

It's being aired first on September 15th

Coll79

Looking forward to this now

barbar69

Yeh looks like it'll very interesting. Can anyone recommend some other football documentaries?

Chardee MacDennis

barbar69 wrote: »

Yeh looks like it'll very interesting. Can anyone recommend some other football documentaries?

Run Ricky Run, Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL? and The U all from the ESPN 30 for 30 are good a=watches, there a re a few more football ones i havent watched from that series too.

ucd.1985

barbar69 wrote: »

Yeh looks like it'll very interesting. Can anyone recommend some other football documentaries?

Any of the seasons of Hard Knocks are excellent.

ucd.1985

Coll79 wrote: »

When will this be available to watch or how? The NFL are above and beyond everyone when it comes to making these programmes.

In fairness between Hard Knocks and 24/7 HBO do a pretty good job too.

Syferus

ucd.1985 wrote: »

In fairness between Hard Knocks and 24/7 HBO do a pretty good job too.

The thing is NFL Films produce Hard Knocks as well, the have their hand somewhere in just about every NFL show or documentary.

SAINTRON

NFL Network and Game Pass are free until after Monday nights game. Subcribe and cancel before then. Interesting archives and the Sound FX show is a must watch....tempted to sign up for the year now.....:D
The Bellichick doc is on tomorrow night {friday AM} @ O2:OO.
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork

Chardee MacDennis

anyone catch this last night? any good?

henryhenry

Yeah. I loved it. Shocked by how unguarded he is throughout. I loved seeing what he really felt about that 2009 team (incredibly frustrating year for Pats fans). I'm not sure how well this will work for someone with little knowledge of BB or those with a strong disliking for him. It works best as juxtaposition to how he's normally portrayed.

ucd.1985

If you have a gamepass is there any way of watching this bar watching it live?

mikemac

No, it's not archived on gamepass

But NFL Network do repeats during the week and it's on at eleven pm tonight
Actually, best to check that time again but it's definitely repeated tonight

HeartOfTheCity

Just finished watching this and have to say, although I'm biased, that's it's fantastic.

Like someone said earlier, I think it'll come as a bit of a shock to those who dislike him. Oh, and the Derrick Mason exchange? Brilliant.

decies

Watching it now!!

ucd.1985

Just caught this. Excellently put together.

Chardee MacDennis

thought it was really good and I'm not a pats fan. loved that Mason bit too!

ReacherCreature

It's on YouTube and it's great. My expectations were high but they've been matched. NFL films can make something so routine something special.

tallaghtoutlaws

Mason's Response on Twitter was pathetic makes him more the fool trying to use the race card :rolleyes::

“Just saw that belichick video thing all u ppl are commenting about. He might As well called me boy! Lol total Disrespect,” he wrote. “Had I said that to him, everyone would have been in a uproar! I have to much respect for the game to speck to a coach in that manner!”

Now with the Jets, Mason promised to “See u soon coach b.. Sg”

Full article here

http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/09/16/mason-belichick-tiff-highlights-a-football-life/?module=HP11_content_stream

ReacherCreature

If Mason's going to allow some swear words affect him on the field, I don't know how he's lasted this long in the violent world of the NFL!

HeartOfTheCity

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Mason's Response on Twitter was pathetic makes him more the fool trying to use the race card :rolleyes::



Full article here

http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/09/16/mason-belichick-tiff-highlights-a-football-life/?module=HP11_content_stream

Hoping Paddy Chung catches him on a crossing route...

neilster

ReacherCreature wrote: »

If Mason's going to allow some swear words affect him on the field, I don't know how he's lasted this long in the violent world of the NFL!

There is needle between the Pats & Ravens ...maybe not Steelers level but it has been there in the past ...funny thing is Mason has probably joined the right team if he wanted his tweet Hex to make things right for him later in the season

Is that not the reason Shaun Ellis is in Boston?

tallaghtoutlaws

neilster wrote: »

There is needle between the Pats & Ravens ...maybe not Steelers level but it has been there in the past ...funny thing is Mason has probably joined the right team if he wanted his tweet Hex to make things right for him later in the season

Mason was signed to the Jets for depth and experience and will most likely see very little action with Keller and Holmes as the two main threats. Burress and LT will see more catches than Mason.

Even with the history Mason is still a knob end. His tweet is nothing but an over reaction and nonsense at best.

Is that not the reason Shaun Ellis is in Boston?

What has the Pats signing of Ellis got to do with Mason and the Jets. BB signed Ellis for the reason that he is a solid Defensive lineman and helps the Pats dilemma. Sure part of it was also to get at the Jets. But the Jets didn't sign Mason to get at the Pats. 2 different situations all together. Had Mason played for the Pats I could see where you are coming from but no not the same.

Hazys

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Mason's Response on Twitter was pathetic makes him more the fool trying to use the race card :rolleyes::



Full article here

http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/09/16/mason-belichick-tiff-highlights-a-football-life/?module=HP11_content_stream

Yup it thought it was extremely pathetic too. I lost a lot of respect for him, i didnt relise he was such an a$$hole....well he did sign with the Jets so i should hav known :pac:

mikemac

Mason can be a fiery leader at times and someone the fans love.
And other times he's moaning on the sidelines, annoying his teammates and trash talking his oppononts. As for the refs, never stops whining at the refs

Was sad to see him leave the Ravens but it was for the best, time to cut him loose

neilster

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Mason was signed to the Jets for depth and experience and will most likely see very little action with Keller and Holmes as the two main threats. Burress and LT will see more catches than Mason.

Even with the history Mason is still a knob end. His tweet is nothing but an over reaction and nonsense at best.



What has the Pats signing of Ellis got to do with Mason and the Jets. BB signed Ellis for the reason that he is a solid Defensive lineman and helps the Pats dilemma. Sure part of it was also to get at the Jets. But the Jets didn't sign Mason to get at the Pats. 2 different situations all together. Had Mason played for the Pats I could see where you are coming from but no not the same.

I would agree that Masons comment betrays a certain lack of appreciation for what Belicheks undoubted skills have wrought upon his old team and by extension Masons own hopes for a Super Bowl . What Shaun Ellis has got to do with the thing is my own comment that due to the Jets recent off-season success against the Pats Mason's choice of team (even of he is a bit part player ) may be a wise one if he wants to better Belichek before he retires.

Shaun Ellis wasnt just chosen because he was a solid lineman who happened to be available, in the Pats playoff loss there were many factors at play but Ellis' dominant display didnt go unnoticed by Belichek. Mason knows the Jets are an admirable foe for the Pats (even if his comments arent classy) and Belichek knows where the talents lie.... hence Ellis...great FA signing

neilster

mikemac wrote: »

Mason can be a fiery leader at times and someone the fans love.
And other times he's moaning on the sidelines, annoying his teammates and trash talking his oppononts. As for the refs, never stops whining at the refs

Was sad to see him leave the Ravens but it was for the best, time to cut him loose

Myself i think he could have been a productive bit part player in Baltimore ...maybe the plan was a cut and resign but he went to the Jets

tallaghtoutlaws

neilster wrote: »

Shaun Ellis wasnt just chosen because he was a solid lineman who happened to be available, in the Pats playoff loss there were many factors at play but Ellis' dominant display didnt go unnoticed by Belichek. Mason knows the Jets are an admirable foe for the Pats (even if his comments arent classy) and Belichek knows where the talents lie.... hence Ellis...great FA signing

:rolleyes: You aren't making any sense here. Of course he was chosen because guess what he was a free agent and Of course we signed Ellis for his abilities I didn't say anything that would suggest we didn't. Talk about arguing the same thing :rolleyes:

And the Mason thing happened in 2009. And only reared its ugly head a few weeks after the Jets signed him. As for him picking the Jets. :rolleyes: There wasn't exactly a line of teams queuing up for him. The Jets came along offered him a contract and he signed simple as that. I highly doubt the Belichick thing that happened 2 years ago was his only motivation cop the fook on.

tallaghtoutlaws

neilster wrote: »

Myself i think he could have been a productive bit part player in Baltimore ...maybe the plan was a cut and resign but he went to the Jets

Nope he was surplus to requirement and was one of the first released to free up space when the CBA ended. The Ravens needed speed and Mason is a poor mans Boldin.

mikemac

neilster wrote: »

Myself i think he could have been a productive bit part player in Baltimore ...maybe the plan was a cut and resign but he went to the Jets

Ravens were the first team to cut players when the lockout ended.
Himself and veterans Todd Heap and Kelly Gregg were cut before any other team made a move.
Monday night massacre as some called it

It's not like Mason was snapped up the second he was cut, he was out there and available for almost two weeks and only the Jets took him

Best WR the Ravens ever had [over a number of years in the franchise, Boldin isn't there long]and missed but Ravens now have Boldin, Lee Evans and some fresh new rookies with speed.

neilster wrote: »

Mason's choice of team (even of he is a bit part player ) may be a wise one if he wants to better Belichek before he retires.

He's a professional football player, the Jets made him a offer and he took it. You're reading far too much into it


Finished watching the second episode there, another superb job from NFL Films.

neilster

mikemac wrote: »

Ravens were the first team to cut players when the lockout ended.
Himself and veterans Todd Heap and Kelly Gregg were cut before any other team made a move.
Monday night massacre as some called it

It's not like Mason was snapped up the second he was cut, he was out there and available for almost two weeks and only the Jets took him

Best WR the Ravens ever had [over a number of years in the franchise, Boldin isn't there long]and missed but Ravens now have Boldin, Lee Evans and some fresh new rookies with speed.



He's a professional football player, the Jets made him a offer and he took it. You're reading far too much into it


Finished watching the second episode there, another superb job from NFL Films.

If we take away the day he was released (Jul 28) and the day he signed (August 6 , medical , forms etc) he was on the street a week so this idea that he was hanging around a lot is overstated ( i know Newsome told them on the 25th but if someone isnt considering everybody time doesnt come into it)

Mason also didnt seem willing to visit a lot of teams and only one team can take him after all (it seems he only was looking at East Coast teams for starters)

You also seem to be extrapolating things ive meant from things i have not said, if the team is right and the money is right and his role is right , he takes the role, if that team might give him satisfaction against another team or individual, that would be a very minor thing and doesnt really come into it . For what its worth i think the Jets were paying some money that wasnt just going to be vet minimum

Whilst the Ravens have gained Boldin in recent times and Lee Evans to stretch the field immediately , Torrey Smith to play the slot and eventually replace Evans , these things were done to move on from Mason . he was due $4.5m this year . He was coming off a 800 yrd year with a low year likely at a high salary and Heap and Gregg were cut to allow signing Yanda, Ngata Flacco etc ...this was a cap issue

neilster

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

Nope he was surplus to requirement and was one of the first released to free up space when the CBA ended. The Ravens needed speed and Mason is a poor mans Boldin.

He had 800 yrds last season and was injured, he has been a 1,000 yrd passer as a 35 yr old and knows the system and could have played the slot or been above average cover . If he had taken a low-ball amount money wise i suspect he might still be a Raven . Lee Evans can get injured (which he has) and Torrey Smith was an unknown if a highly touted one along with Tandon Doss . The Ravens salary cap was against them as was an old Mason ($4.5m ) an old and oft-injured Todd Heap ($5m) and a similar Kelly Gregg ($5.5m) and the cap eating potential of resigning Yanda , Ngata and Flacco

I dont think its as cut and dried as that and takes into account the above . His motives in taking the Jets are questionable , i suspect they are the only team on the East Coast who were willing tp pay him the type of money "Derek Mason" feels he should be paid. They have many recievers all looking for touches and a rejuvenated Burress would for instance nearly take away all his touches, i think he has less than 100 yrds through 3 games

mikemac

neilster wrote: »

Whilst the Ravens have gained Boldin in recent times and Lee Evans to stretch the field immediately , Torrey Smith to play the slot and eventually replace Evans , these things were done to move on from Mason . he was due $4.5m this year . He was coming off a 800 yrd year with a low year likely at a high salary and Heap and Gregg were cut to allow signing Yanda, Ngata Flacco etc ...this was a cap issue

I never said any different

And Boldin plays in the slot, Evans and Torrey Smith on the outside
And they have Tandon Doss, fourth round pick for the slot also

Look at that post further up

Talk about arguing the same thing

neilster

mikemac wrote: »

I never said any different

And Boldin plays in the slot, Evans and Torrey Smith on the outside
And they have Tandon Doss, fourth round pick for the slot also

Look at that post further up

point taken Mike ...i see Boldin as a possession reciever , yards after the catch type guy as against a speedster lining up anywhere but i can see where he would dominate the slot on a lot of snaps as you say

tallaghtoutlaws

neilster wrote: »

He had 800 yrds last season and was injured, he has been a 1,000 yrd passer as a 35 yr old and knows the system and could have played the slot or been above average cover . If he had taken a low-ball amount money wise i suspect he might still be a Raven . Lee Evans can get injured (which he has) and Torrey Smith was an unknown if a highly touted one along with Tandon Doss . The Ravens salary cap was against them as was an old Mason ($4.5m ) an old and oft-injured Todd Heap ($5m) and a similar Kelly Gregg ($5.5m) and the cap eating potential of resigning Yanda , Ngata and Flacco

You clearly don't get it. As you have already mixed up the WR positions in your answer to Mikemac it shows you are just trying to look for an argument on this where you push your made up opinion on us.

Simple facts:

Mason is 37 and not as fast as he used to be. The Ravens knew this and knew it was time to look for something they have struggled to have in many years and that is that fast outside receiver. So they offloaded Mason to replace him for a younger model. Evans was that model.

As for playing the slot? He isn't a possession WR and would not suit the slot. And of course they dropped him for money. Having a slow 37 year old who is surplus to requirements on your team helps no one including your cap.

I dont think its as cut and dried as that and takes into account the above . His motives in taking the Jets are questionable , i suspect they are the only team on the East Coast who were willing tp pay him the type of money "Derek Mason" feels he should be paid. They have many recievers all looking for touches and a rejuvenated Burress would for instance nearly take away all his touches, i think he has less than 100 yrds through 3 games

Now this Jets thing is nonsense at best and you are clearly getting this from other sources and I think I know who. Certain website that is a pure rubbish and makes up things to suit his own agenda and opinion.

As for his contract and the bit you mentioned in bold The Jets got Mason on a veteran's minimum contract minimum of $910,000. Hardly Mason looking for what he deserves :rolleyes: What is clear here is that the Jets were the first team interested in taking him and most likely the only team. A week is a long time in the NFL and had Mason been that much in demand he would not have signed with the Jets that quickly and there would have been talk of others and guess what there wasn't.

D3PO

just to add Mason was a damn fine NFL reciever and his play into his mid thirties was excellent. But hes had his day he needs to retire after this season.

evil_seed

If I can bring this back on topic...

I watched part one and part 2 of this. Some great insight in to what a coach has to do and deal with. It was really eery watching them talk about minding Welker in the Texans game and then he goes down with injury. The show brought across how much Belichick strives for perfection. He has a great relationship with Brady, who I'm sure he sees as an extension of himself on the field