Yes. Another religion thread. For Catholics and others.

Ghost Buster

Let me make a couple of prefaces to this thread:
(1) I think it is more fitting in AH than in Religion as this is specifically concerning Irish Catholicism which is seemingly not de rigueur over yonder.
(2) Take it as given that sensibilities of other religions and none are not taken into account in this make believe state!!!!!!!.

SO: Its often said that this is a Catholic country. What if Ireland truly was a hard line theocracy in the same manner as many Islamic states with religious observance as the foundation for legal and political institutions.
Could you as a catholic follow "Catholic law"?
A total ban on the sale and use of contraception
A total ban on the sale and consumption of meat on Fridays
Some form of legal sanction against those found pregnant outside of marriage.
Homosexuality illegal and punishable by law.
Enforced attendance at mass on Sundays.

Im sure you get the picture.
So. Could you?

fontanalis

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Let me make a couple of prefaces to this thread:
(1) I think it is more fitting in AH than in Religion as this is specifically concerning Irish Catholicism which is seemingly not de rigueur over yonder.
(2) Take it as given that sensibilities of other religions and none are not taken into account in this make believe state!!!!!!!.

SO: Its often said that this is a Catholic country. What if Ireland truly was a hard line theocracy in the same manner as many Islamic states with religious observance as the foundation for legal and political institutions.
Could you as a catholic follow "Catholic law"?
A total ban on the sale and use of contraception
A total ban on the sale and consumption of meat on Fridays
Some form of legal sanction against those found pregnant outside of marriage.
Homosexuality illegal and punishable by law.
Enforced attendance at mass on Sundays.

Im sure you get the picture.
So. Could you?

Where did that idea originate?

FatherLen

no it's a thread about religion.
put it in the religion forum.

InTheTrees

Sounds like Ireland in the 50's...

Its taken us that long to get away from all of that.

teol

You need to add:

• Women banned from working in civil service when married.
• Priest tells you what university to attend.
• Only allowed to play certain sports.

Jesus focking christ we used to live in a backward country.

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Don't mean to be rude but, fuck that

Zebra3

Ironically, in a hardline Catholic state, the Catholic church would be outlawed because of its criminality. :pac:

CardBordWindow

You forgot to mention those lovely pedophile priests!

MugMugs

Ghost Buster wrote: »

A total ban on the sale and use of contraception

A load more single mothers running around. On the flip side you get to shoot your muck up yer "burd"
A total ban on the sale and consumption of meat on Fridays

That COMPLETELY ruins my Fry Day - Friday !

Some form of legal sanction against those found pregnant outside of marriage.

Suggestions ?
Homosexuality illegal and punishable by law.

What? Like no Same Sex marriages ?
Enforced attendance at mass on Sundays.

Go to mass or be publicly flogged and stoned ? Could beat the pub I suppose.
So. Could you?

Could you ?

RustyNut

I could, didn't they do a lot of stoning in biblical times...







oh wait wrong type of stoning......:eek:

Horsebox9000

If it became like that again I would be gone from this country.

It still sickens me that 20 something years ago Divorce and Homosexuality was actually illegal in this country.

I am really disgusted by the Blasphemy Law that was introduced a while back.

The Catholic Church have no moral right to be in state business these days espcially with science becoming such a force with FACTUAL information.

pajunior

FatherLen wrote: »

no it's a thread about religion.
put it in the religion forum.

To be fair 80% of AH threads belong to another forum.

MugMugs

My Granny, may God rest her sweet cotton stockings used to have to go to Church to be "Churched back into the Church" after giving birth.

Then the priest would tell her to go and have another kiddy as it was good for the country and the same condesending circle of "forgiveness" would happen again !

Knight who says Meh

Not a genuine answer to a straight forward question as of yet.
Where are all the folk who tick "Catholic' on the census?
Im waiting for an answer as well:D:D:D:D

Knight who says Meh

fontanalis wrote: »

Where did that idea originate?

Psssssssst. Its a pretend catholic theocracy. Didnt ya get the memo?

Ghost Buster

FatherLen wrote: »

no it's a thread about religion.
put it in the religion forum.

But it does not belong in Atheism and the Christianity Rules/ Charter will not allow throwing of stones in their green house.
It belongs here. Sorry.

ejmaztec

The Irish Catholic Church having complete control, would make the Taliban look soft.

smokedeels

Ghost Buster wrote: »

So. Could you?

Living under those laws to please a God is tantamount to living under a Dictatorship.

Ghost Buster

I appreciate the feed back however i didnt intend this to become a Church bashathon... really....
Im just curious to see if any of those who constantly throw in "its a catholic country and Im a catholic" have the strength of their convictions.

can we get into that maybe?

ejmaztec

There'd be no internet, no satellite dishes, no porn, and on Sundays the local snatch-squads would be out dragging people into church.

Guill

An eye for an Eye?
A tooth for a tooth?

I'll swap you a tooth for an eye?

I'm confused.

Who's there?

Helloooo?








Ah it's you father, how are....





AAAAAAAAAggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.............

Viper_JB

Ghost Buster wrote: »

But it does not belong in Atheism and the Christianity Rules/ Charter will not allow throwing of stones in their green house.
It belongs here. Sorry.

Yer the Christianity forum seems to be exclusively for discussion of how great Christianity is, everything else is locked......lots of locked threads on that forum.

RustyNut

Stoning and snatch squads,
where do I sign up :D

Can't remember the last time I had some snatch while stoned:D:D

Zebra3

ejmaztec wrote: »

There'd be no internet, no satellite dishes, no porn

No tampons.

Knight who says Meh

Zebra3 wrote: »

No tampons.

Really!!!! How so?
(Ten minutes after google)....

I cant find anything about tampons being uncatholic.

Still not a genuine answer from any catholics though.....

iliketeaandcake

I dont understand how so many people tick the 'catholic' box on the census. It gives the catholic church incorrect numbers of followers to boast about, boosting the idea that we are a 'Catholic Nation'.
'Catholic Nation' me arse. I don't know one person, who was baptised as catholic, myself included, who could truly describe themselves as catholic.. even if one goes to mass the odd time or wants their children to be baptised.
To be Catholic is to be anti-women, anti-gay, anti-science, etc. and so on. People say it is a cultural thing, staying loyal to the tribe and all that shyte... get a life! Just cos you don't want to upset your mammies, stop supporting an institution that kept our country in a backward state for decades!

Chuck Stone

In a pretend Catholic (or any other) theocracy I'd be a pretend freedom fighter against the pretend theocracy.

I'd plant pretend bombs which would explode pretend confetti all over the theocrats.

Pretentious?

yutta

iliketeaandcake wrote: »

To be Catholic is to be anti-women, anti-gay, anti-science, etc.

Rubbish. Please elaborate what you mean.

ejmaztec

yutta wrote: »

Rubbish. Please elaborate what you mean.

To sum up - "anti-fun".:(

Knight who says Meh

yutta wrote: »

Rubbish. Please elaborate what you mean.

I hope the poster does elaborate.
Also i wonder if you would answer the original question please.

yutta

Knight who says Meh wrote: »

I hope the poster does elaborate.
Also i wonder if you would answer the original question please.

What question is that? I'm assuming you mean the OP.

In that case, I'd answer no - enforced Catholicism isn't in the Church's best interests.

Knight who says Meh

yutta wrote: »

What question is that? I'm assuming you mean the OP.

In that case, I'd answer no - enforced Catholicism isn't in the Church's best interests.

Nope. The question was could you as a Catholic live strictly to catholic law...I think.....
Not do you think it is a good idea or good for the Church....simply
"Could you?"

iliketeaandcake

yutta wrote: »

Rubbish. Please elaborate what you mean.

Of course!!! Anti-women: EHHH, No women priests, against contraception and the choices a woman can make governing her baby-making facilities.
Anti-gay...
anti-science..
Ah, seriously do I have to actually back up these statements?! It's fairly obvious wouldn't you think?! Christ on a bike!

KeithAFC

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Let me make a couple of prefaces to this thread:
(1) I think it is more fitting in AH than in Religion as this is specifically concerning Irish Catholicism which is seemingly not de rigueur over yonder.
(2) Take it as given that sensibilities of other religions and none are not taken into account in this make believe state!!!!!!!.

SO: Its often said that this is a Catholic country. What if Ireland truly was a hard line theocracy in the same manner as many Islamic states with religious observance as the foundation for legal and political institutions.
Could you as a catholic follow "Catholic law"?
A total ban on the sale and use of contraception
A total ban on the sale and consumption of meat on Fridays
Some form of legal sanction against those found pregnant outside of marriage.
Homosexuality illegal and punishable by law.
Enforced attendance at mass on Sundays.

Im sure you get the picture.
So. Could you?

Thankfully that would never happen up here (catholic law) but I imagine more people would move up here if that was the case. Nowadays anyway.

yutta

iliketeaandcake wrote: »

Of course!!! Anti-women: EHHH, No women priests, against contraception and the choices a woman can make governing her baby-making facilities.
Anti-gay...
anti-science..
Ah, seriously do I have to actually back up these statements?! It's fairly obvious wouldn't you think?! Christ on a bike!

The church is not "anti-gay" as you call it. Every person is to be treated with dignity. It's the grizzly sex bit that the church has a problem with.

As for anti-science. Science informs the church on modern developements. Science is not a religion in itself as some of its staunch adherents believe.

hatrickpatrick

Ghost Buster wrote: »

A total ban on the sale and use of contraception

We used to have that

A total ban on the sale and consumption of meat on Fridays

This isn't Catholic...?

Some form of legal sanction against those found pregnant outside of marriage.

Ever hear of the Magdalene Laundries?

Homosexuality illegal and punishable by law.

It used to be

Sadly, our country used to be very much a theocracy. That is the one and only thing which has ever made me ashamed to be Irish. When I first read about Magdalene asylums a few years ago I was so horrified that I genuinely considered leaving this country and not coming back.

We still have a looooooong way to go, I'm afraid.

starlit

Oh no not another religious/non-religious Catholic/Non-Catholic thread again!?:eek::rolleyes:

starlit

High time that the Catholic Church stops having a strong control over catholic schools its annoying. They are going out by the wayside so think modern ireland and the state have a better chance of keeping a better control over schools that are now catholic but won't be anymore. Be glad to see that day that the catholic church don't have anymore control over schools.

wild_cat

No right to an abortion.

Oh.... wait....

Ghost Buster

3 pages in and still no genuine reply or proper engagement from a real irish catholic.
Have i farted in some bodys space suit?


Come on. "THIS IS A CATHOLIC COUNTRY"

randylonghorn

Ghost Buster wrote: »

3 pages in and still no genuine reply or proper engagement from a real irish catholic.

I don't think they come into AH much.

Most people have the cop-on not to volunteer to be stoned by the mob!

hatrickpatrick

Ghost Buster wrote: »

3 pages in and still no genuine reply or proper engagement from a real irish catholic.
Have i farted in some bodys space suit?


Come on. "THIS IS A CATHOLIC COUNTRY"

I'm an Irish Catholic and my reply was genuine

Manach

Well - given the historical tithe, 1/10th of income the Church charges - and compare that with the amount of taxes that this bankrupt state demands - just saying. That, and from memory, over the last century 10's of millions of people were killed by their own government - Theocracy might have it's advantages.

Craebear

yutta wrote: »

The church is not "anti-gay" as you call it.

Delusional nonsense.

Viidya

Another thread about this?

Seriously AH.

-.- No anyone who says yes is naive.

Ghost Buster

randylonghorn wrote: »

I don't think they come into AH much.

Most people have the cop-on not to volunteer to be stoned by the mob!

So can i just do a link to this thread the next time Im told "This IS a catholic country"?

Ghost Buster

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I'm an Irish Catholic and my reply was genuine

You didnt really answer the question.
Could you live to the letter of catholic dogma if it were enshrined in law?

ejmaztec

Ghost Buster wrote: »

3 pages in and still no genuine reply or proper engagement from a real irish catholic.
Have i farted in some bodys space suit?


Come on. "THIS IS A CATHOLIC COUNTRY"

They apparently need special dispensation from the bishop to communicate on the devil's internet.

Sisko

Religious people won't want to answer your question cause it'll show them to be the hypocrites that they are.

yutta wrote: »

Rubbish. Please elaborate what you mean.

LOL? You like , heard of Christianity right?

randylonghorn

Ghost Buster wrote: »

So can i just do a link to this thread the next time Im told "This IS a catholic country"?

Well, you could, but what would be the point?

All it really proves is that AH is not a forum which is especially welcoming to Catholics, and they don't bother much with it.

AH is not the world. AH is not even Ireland.

mossyc123

Ghost Buster wrote: »

3 pages in and still no genuine reply or proper engagement from a real irish catholic.
Have i farted in some bodys space suit?


Come on. "THIS IS A CATHOLIC COUNTRY"

You've misunderstood the term "Catholic Country".

It means that the vast majority of people in Ireland are considered Catholic.

The vast majority of people take some part in the Church, whether by attending services, observing traditions, marking Births, Deaths and Marriages in a Catholic Church or just by generally identifying with the faith.

It's just like Europe in general is considered a Christian continent, the Middle East is Islamic, etc, etc.

Obviously, nobody in their right mind wants to live in a country where religious practice is state enforced.

Basically, your asking a pretty dumb question so don't be surprised that your thread isn't getting that much attention.