MENS Fashion

IrishGuyCork

.... They say it takes 7 secs to make an impression and a lifetime to change it.

What would you think is good fashion for men in a context of general wear and when socializing?

Be interested in hearing views from both men and women?

baby and crumble

Clean, tidy, well fitting and not 'fashion'- moreso style.

IrishGuyCork

baby and crumble wrote: »

Clean, tidy, well fitting and not 'fashion'- moreso style.

Mmm so what would you say to women who like men... rough and ready..lol

baby and crumble

IrishGuyCork wrote: »

Mmm so what would you say to women who like men... rough and ready..lol

I don't fancy guys, but I know when the clothes they're wearing makes my eyes bleed...

IrishGuyCork

baby and crumble wrote: »

I don't fancy guys, but I know when the clothes they're wearing makes my eyes bleed...

Such as what would make your eyes bleed in YOUR opinion?

baby and crumble

IrishGuyCork wrote: »

Such as what would make your eyes bleed in YOUR opinion?

Well I did say so in my first post, but I'll go into more detail (BTW pretty much ALL of these points apply to women too, btw)

1) Clothes that don't fit properly:



I know which I think looks better and would leave a better impression on me if I were hiring or trying to set someone up with him.

2) Guys who are hung up on 'fashion' rather than style or looking good for their size and shape- just because it's on the topshop lookbook doesn't mean it's going to look good on everyone.

3) Guys wearing inappropriate clothes for the task at hand- ie jeans at a funeral/ a tracksuit to work (unless you're an athlete)/ a tux on a regular night out.

4) Dirty clothes- kinda goes without saying.

5) I have a personal hatred for men wearing jeans and checked shirts on a night out, simply because so many do. It's like a uniform. A La this-



(interestingly I found that pic in google from another boards thread, might be worth a look OP- http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=65978579)

6) Wearing runners with jeans:



Obviously in this things like vans or cons don't count as runners.

7) Novelty ties:



Just say no, kids!

There are other little things that bug me personally, but no point going into them here. I do think the main thing for any first impression (be it for romance, a job, or anything in between) is to look clean and neat and tidy and like you made an effort. Obviously the actual clothes that you wear will make different impressions on different people. If I were a metal head and I saw someone wearing the kind of clothes I wear, I would have a very different first impression of me than say someone I meet doing research will have of me. But in general your starting point should be clothes that fit properly (I cannot stress that enough) and are clean and neat and tidy.

OldGoat

Heres me harping on about the skinny suit thing again. :rolleyes: Just wanted to point out that the lad in the two different cut suits is a bit of a misdirection. The skinny suit fits him because it's his size. The classic cut suit look ridiculous not because it's classic cut but because it's four fecking sizes to big for him. If that were a tailored fit you would see the difference between classic and skinny.

Baby&Crumble hits the nail on the head with her post.

If you dress like every other man in the room you'll be lost in the murk. Show a little individual style.

ongarboy

I agree with being different and adventurous! I wore a new John Rocha white shirt with tiny blue floral detail pattern out the other night which was very ambitious by my standards and I probably would not have had the nerve a few years ago and was even dubious about buying initially. 4 different strangers (all men) as well as my mates all paid compliment on how they really liked my shirt. It does give you a feel good factor when others compliment you. I think guys should be a little bit more adventurous. I admit to playing it safe with fashion too often but reactions like the other night have encouraged me to be a little bit more adventurous going forward!

Well fitting clothes in good quality fabrics that compliment your body build as well as colours that suit your complexion will never have you arrested by the fashion police!

IrishGuyCork

ongarboy wrote: »

I agree with being different and adventurous! I wore a new John Rocha white shirt with tiny blue floral detail pattern out the other night which was very ambitious by my standards and I probably would not have had the nerve a few years ago and was even dubious about buying initially. 4 different strangers (all men) as well as my mates all paid compliment on how they really liked my shirt. It does give you a feel good factor when others compliment you. I think guys should be a little bit more adventurous. I admit to playing it safe with fashion too often but reactions like the other night have encouraged me to be a little bit more adventurous going forward!

Well fitting clothes in good quality fabrics that compliment your body build as well as colours that suit your complexion will never have you arrested by the fashion police!

Well in my experience when out clubbing / pubs most guys would be wearing some form of jeans with a shirt, shirt & v neck jumper or T - Shirt.

Not much more you can do after from wearing a form of a suit...lol And obviously track suits and runners are a no no after 8 in most pubs.

Mmm so how can MEN really stand out and different to the above and norm?

ongarboy

IrishGuyCork wrote: »

Well in my experience when out clubbing / pubs most guys would be wearing some form of jeans with a skirt, skirt & v neck jumper or T - Shirt.

Not much more you can do after from wearing a form of a suit...lol And obviously track suits and runners are a no no after 8 in most pubs.

Mmm so how can MEN really stand out and different to the above and norm?

Jeans with a skirt, skirt and v neck?? Now that will make you stand out alright!!

baby and crumble

OldGoat- I didn't mean to imply that everyone should get a skinny fit suit- tbh that suit doesn't look 'skinny' to me, just the right fit for him!

IrishGuyCork wrote:

Mmm so how can MEN really stand out and different to the above and norm?

I am intrigued by your constant capitalization of the word 'men'...

Anyway. Most men in this country dress rather blandly, without chancing themselves or the possibility of standing out or offending anyone- hence the jeans with runners, check/striped shirt on a night out etc. Problem is they then become bland and blend in with each other. The guy who tried out the blue floral pattern shirt- all he did was try a new pattern, one that many men wouldn't have the guts to try. And what happened? He got lots of compliments. My guess was he still paired this with jeans and shoes, so really, is it any harder to wear than what other guys are wearing? No.

Attention to detail is really important- it's little things that will allow you to stand out from a crowd, but without having the sartorial equivalent of a neon sign pointing at them going "look at me, look at me!!!". So you wear a floral design instead of a striped shirt. No big difference. You wear jeans that fit you properly instead of a size too big.

So, instead of wearing a rain slicker or windcheater like this to work over your suit or whatever it is:



get yourself a trenchcoat:



Accessories are where most guys that I know fall down- guys are very practical by nature, and it can take a lot to get them out of the idea that every piece of clothing has to have a purpose- not really. Yes, it usually does have a purpose like keeping you warm, but say for example a scarf- I don't understand why more men don't wear scarves! And if they do they get the blandest scarf possible. Live a little- get an orange scarf, or something.

Certainly my friends that are single in my age group (29ish) will look at a guys style. A guy who looks like he still wears the kind of clothes he wore in school- big no. The guy who takes the odd chance without going totally off the wall- you can bet they like it.

BTW sorry if I seem like I'm preaching, I'm not. I'm just giving my opinion. I've just been trying to learn the basics of style and stuff for myself, and I'm having to learn to dress right for me, and stand out a little. That and I have a LOT of straight friends who agree with pretty much all of what I'm saying here.

OP you should try looking at some mens style and fashion blogs-

http://www.thestyleblogger.com/
http://www.fashionbeans.com/ (who I just realised did a piece about Dublin as a city of style!- http://www.fashionbeans.com/2011/city-of-style-guide-dublin/)
http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/
http://www.gq.com/style
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/mens-fashion/

IrishGuyCork

ongarboy wrote: »

Jeans with a skirt, skirt and v neck?? Now that will make you stand out alright!!

Mmm i think your need to be on the Transgender page @ Ongarboy ...ha ha Hope you enjoy your weekends wearing skirts...ha ha

IrishGuyCork

My capitialization of the word 'MEN', was in my experience why the conversation of fashion comes to the fore its mostly in terms of women. Hence why i was bringing the attention to mens fashion.

Great reply and im very grateful for your comments, thoughts and suggestions.

I came across this site www.cmbireland.com its where a qualfied imagie consultant gives professional feeback on what colours, and types of clothers suits a person shape, body, and imagie.

Food for thought....

baby and crumble wrote: »

OldGoat- I didn't mean to imply that everyone should get a skinny fit suit- tbh that suit doesn't look 'skinny' to me, just the right fit for him!



I am intrigued by your constant capitalization of the word 'men'...

Anyway. Most men in this country dress rather blandly, without chancing themselves or the possibility of standing out or offending anyone- hence the jeans with runners, check/striped shirt on a night out etc. Problem is they then become bland and blend in with each other. The guy who tried out the blue floral pattern shirt- all he did was try a new pattern, one that many men wouldn't have the guts to try. And what happened? He got lots of compliments. My guess was he still paired this with jeans and shoes, so really, is it any harder to wear than what other guys are wearing? No.

Attention to detail is really important- it's little things that will allow you to stand out from a crowd, but without having the sartorial equivalent of a neon sign pointing at them going "look at me, look at me!!!". So you wear a floral design instead of a striped shirt. No big difference. You wear jeans that fit you properly instead of a size too big.

So, instead of wearing a rain slicker or windcheater like this to work over your suit or whatever it is:



get yourself a trenchcoat:



Accessories are where most guys that I know fall down- guys are very practical by nature, and it can take a lot to get them out of the idea that every piece of clothing has to have a purpose- not really. Yes, it usually does have a purpose like keeping you warm, but say for example a scarf- I don't understand why more men don't wear scarves! And if they do they get the blandest scarf possible. Live a little- get an orange scarf, or something.

Certainly my friends that are single in my age group (29ish) will look at a guys style. A guy who looks like he still wears the kind of clothes he wore in school- big no. The guy who takes the odd chance without going totally off the wall- you can bet they like it.

BTW sorry if I seem like I'm preaching, I'm not. I'm just giving my opinion. I've just been trying to learn the basics of style and stuff for myself, and I'm having to learn to dress right for me, and stand out a little. That and I have a LOT of straight friends who agree with pretty much all of what I'm saying here.

OP you should try looking at some mens style and fashion blogs-

http://www.thestyleblogger.com/
http://www.fashionbeans.com/ (who I just realised did a piece about Dublin as a city of style!- http://www.fashionbeans.com/2011/city-of-style-guide-dublin/)
http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/
http://www.gq.com/style
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/mens-fashion/

ongarboy

IrishGuyCork wrote: »

Mmm i think your need to be on the Transgender page @ Ongarboy ...ha ha Hope you enjoy your weekends wearing skirts...ha ha

You were the one who said it in you're original post!! not my style TBH!!

IrishGuyCork

ongarboy wrote: »

You were the one who said it in you're original post!! not my style TBH!!

Mmm you lost me now mate.... can you show me the comment cant see it ANYWHERE ...

baby and crumble

IrishGuyCork wrote: »

Mmm you lost me now mate.... can you show me the comment cant see it ANYWHERE ...

cough *editing* cough...

ipadzz

Baby and Crumble put across everything very succinctly! Very much agreed! There are fundamental style/fashion attributes which most Irish men completely ignore!

The most fundamental point is to buy clothes that fit properly. Be aware with the huge influx of international labels and brands (Zara, Pull & Bear, Tommy Hilfiger just as a few examples), sizes can differ dramatically. A Large in one company's product could be an x-large in anothers. It's always important to get the fit right and if you're unsure whether it's right or not - ask a sales advisor, it's what they are there for.

Even magazines don't get it right. If we could all do this little trick it would make life a lot easier, a lot more stylish.


Another good tip is to add one splash of colour to an outfit. This isn't a huge cry from your usual style, but it's pushing the boat out a little and showing you are taking more pride in your appearance.

Workwise, a suit doesn't have to be one full suit. Play around with tones and shades. If you want to be a bit more stylish, even go for a mismatched suit, like this kind of idea for an example.


Another thing men in Ireland don't seem to do, is buy entire suits of clothes at a time. There's no use in buying one pair of pants here, one 'heading out' t-shirt or shirt there... Buy with a clear vision. Buy things that go with what you already have in your wardrobe. If you wear a lot of browns, stick to colours that complement what you have. A good tip for this is taking someone you consider stylish. Johnny Depp, Jude Law etc. and taking an outfit of theirs you admire and trying to find something similar. That way you have one full suit that you always know looks good together, instead of trying to make odd-bits from your wardrobe work together

tommmy

Irish peple just dont have style

Were still stuck in the era of flared jeans and shirts that are sizes way to big

Its just the way this country is

The UK,France,Germany they have the best style..

We dont,and the sad thing is if somone is dressed while walking down a street here they are frowned upon...

Richard Hillman

baby and crumble wrote: »

5) I have a personal hatred for men wearing jeans and checked shirts on a night out, simply because so many do. It's like a uniform.

I absolutely HATE that. Whenever i go out with my mates pretty much everyone of them are wearing check shirts. There is nothing fashionable about being a clone. People that go to night clubs in round neck t-shirts and polo t-shirts is another pet peeve of mine. Make an effort FFS.

Resi12

tommmy wrote: »

Irish peple just dont have style

Were still stuck in the era of flared jeans and shirts that are sizes way to big

Its just the way this country is

The UK,France,Germany they have the best style..

We dont,and the sad thing is if somone is dressed while walking down a street here they are frowned upon...

Speak for yourself, ! :pac:

I do know what you mean though, it's very true.

bret69

Richard Hillman wrote: »

I absolutely HATE that. Whenever i go out with my mates pretty much everyone of them are wearing check shirts. There is nothing fashionable about being a clone. People that go to night clubs in round neck t-shirts and polo t-shirts is another pet peeve of mine. Make an effort FFS.

What kind of check shirts are you talking about? You got an example?

OldGoat

bret69 wrote: »

What kind of check shirts are you talking about? You got an example?

ALL of them.

baby and crumble

I think the check shirt phenomenon is at it's worst when the base colour is white and it's short sleeved.



is ten times worse than



Although they're both kinda rank. It's really more to do with how guys wear it though. Like, stick slim jeans and a slim blazer over the 2nd one and it'd be grand. BUt a lot of guys put these shirts with baggy jeans and these kind of shoes



SO very very ugly.

Richard Hillman

bret69 wrote: »

What kind of check shirts are you talking about? You got an example?

I would say most of them. The lumberjack style ones are so common they should have went out of fashion over a year ago. If you walked into a club i would say near 50% of people are wearing them. Day to day wear isnt too bad but when you go on a night out its a bit too common. Whatever happened to smart casual dress codes? People are entitled to follow whatever trends they like but this trend has been going on a bit too long.

Black Leather

As a male, I like to stand out from the crowd, so my usual style for going out at night is black leather. I will be wearing leather jeans, New Rock boots, leather biker jacket and a leather baseball cap. Dressed in this gear, I always attract female attention. When some people see a guy dressed all in black leather, they think that he must be a biker or else he is gay. I am neither a biker or gay. I just love wearing leather. Its great to dress in a different fashion from everyone else and really stand out from the crowd.

PerrinV2

Ya I'm a dude and I'll admit I have no fashion sense.

bret69

To me there's a HUGE difference between wearing a short sleeved shirt like the first one above and...

long sleeved check shirt with sleeves rolled up, slim fitting jeans, brown belt, brown boots / brogues and maybe a cool watch. Something like these:



or this

Resi12

bret69 wrote: »

To me there's a HUGE difference between wearing a short sleeved shirt like the first one above and...

long sleeved check shirt with sleeves rolled up, slim fitting jeans, brown belt, brown boots / brogues and maybe a cool watch. Something like these:



or this

The second one is nice, the first is just.. meh. So casual and not even that, it's just so bland and done to death. Those shirts anyway.

It's honestly like a uniform now.

Dickie10

hi guys im just wondering how would one go about styling on a country chic sort of theme?? some very nice clothes out there, I see the british rural set wearing really nice clothes lately