when RTE sent out their Saorview leaflets, why did they include Irish in it?

CorkMan

Name 1 person who understands Irish yet not English. The leaflet was twice as big as a result and I am sure they could have saved a lot of money by not including the irish part. Fair enough if they included Irish in the leaflets sent to the gaeltacht areas.

But why places like Cork, Dublin, Limerick, etc? Big towns and everything. It beggars belief. The 80%+ of people in these areas can't understand the irish written in the leaflet, which beggars did they include Irish in case no-one understood the English part? :rolleyes:

MrStuffins

Because we live in Ireland

NEXT!!!

wolfpawnat

Because some people have the ability to understand the Irish language. I have a small bit, but I always try to translate the Irish of anything before reading the English.

Taltos

1 We are in Ireland.
2 Legally they are obliged to.

Now - why don't you go and start a thread on why it always rains in Ireland - how dare the damn precipitation precipitate.

upandcumming

Because they should.

Saila

the same reason there is a TG4

mattjack

CorkMan wrote: »

Name 1 person who understands Irish yet not English. The leaflet was twice as big as a result and I am sure they could have saved a lot of money by not including the irish part. Fair enough if they included Irish in the leaflets sent to the gaeltacht areas.

But why places like Cork, Dublin, Limerick, etc? Big towns and everything. It beggars belief. The 80%+ of people in these areas can't understand the irish written in the leaflet, which beggars did they include Irish in case no-one understood the English part? :rolleyes:

why do people from Cork, call it The Real Capital..?

Mint Sauce

Becuase Irish is one of our official languages.

CorkMan

They should have written it in Polish, more people would have been able to understand it.

tallaghtmick

Because its really secret anti-foreigner propaganda.

Dionysus

CorkMan wrote: »

Name 1 person who understands Irish yet not English. The leaflet was twice as big as a result and I am sure they could have saved a lot of money by not including the irish part. Fair enough if they included Irish in the leaflets sent to the gaeltacht areas.

But why places like Cork, Dublin, Limerick, etc? Big towns and everything. It beggars belief. The 80%+ of people in these areas can't understand the irish written in the leaflet, which beggars did they include Irish in case no-one understood the English part? :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: Yet another self-hating Cork person trying to be English. Eoghan Harris must be feeling claustrophobic at this stage.

tfitzgerald

Thy did it just to annoy keithafc

Because theyre the National Broadcaster and it's our National Language.

CorkMan

Deleted User wrote: »

Because theyre the National Broadcaster and it's our National Language.

Well the majority, like 9 out of 10 people I know, don't speak Irish. I very much expect the same statistic for everyone in a city/big town. I know a bit of Irish (Bhí me CorkMan, bhí me go dtoil and síopa agus chennaigh me an peann, bainne agus uísce, raibh an evening echo, irish times trathnona.)

I say around 3/4 out of every 10 people would know a bit of Irish (like me) but I didn't have near enough the proficiency to read the Irish part of the leaflet. It is the same with the name of the service, "Saorview." Until I heard the name pronounced on RTÉ I pronounced it "Sour View" dozens of times. I'm not trying to be English, i'm just trying to use common sense. Plus if "they" really want us to learn Irish we would have learned it in 3/4 years at school, not being there 10-12 years not not knowing more than a few phrases. Main Europeans who learn English generally are very proficient by the time they are 12-14 years of age.

Coriolanus

+1 for the Polish suggestion, or maybe Chinese.

fontanalis

I blame France and Germany trying to turn Ireland into another US state!

Duckworth_Luas

Dionysus wrote: »

:rolleyes: Yet another self-hating Cork person trying to be English. Eoghan Harris must be feeling claustrophobic at this stage.

Here is a picture of Cork just a few short months ago.

The real capital? The real jackeens more like!

fontanalis

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KeithAFC

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KeithAFC

Guid to see ye got some sense CorkMan. I agree with ye.

Dionysus

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Here is a picture of Cork just a few short months ago.

The real capital? The real jackeens more like!

If I recall correctly - and I do - "Cork man" was here telling us all how the British queen was more welcome in Cork than she was in Dublin. This post in Afterhours was a fine response to the moronic, and thoroughly indisputable, idiocy underlining his claim to be "Irish".

Guy:Incognito

Deleted User wrote: »

Because theyre the National Broadcaster and it's our National Language.

Who people constantly go on about wasting oney and the price of the tv licence.

KeithAFC

Caraville wrote: »

To be fair to ya Keith, you're clearly struggling with English as it is so I can understand why you mightn't be too gone on the Gaeilge.

:pac: I do agree with him on this though. I can see the economic point he is making and it does make sense.

Bipolar Joe

Because if they didn't the eight people who speak Irish exclusively would have gotten all pissy.

Dionysus

Bipolar Joe wrote: »

Because if they didn't the eight people who speak Irish exclusively would have gotten all pissy.

You're not doing your situation any favours with that rather pissy outlook, Bipolar Joe.

charlemont

CorkMan wrote: »

They should have written it in Polish, more people would have been able to understand it.

Why not go the whole hog and write it in Shít talk.

PseudoFamous

CorkMan wrote: »

(Bhí me CorkMan, bhí me go dtoil and síopa agus chennaigh me an peann, bainne agus uísce, raibh an evening echo, irish times trathnona.)

Translated: I was Corkman, I was in command (or proficient) and shop and I bought a pen, milk and water, was the Evening Echo, Irish Times afternoon.

Foghlaim na aul cúpla focail arís, lad.

fedor.2.

The sooner the Irish language dies out, which it will, the better

PseudoFamous

fedor.2. wrote: »

The sooner the Irish language dies out, which it will, the better

Why would you want it to? If you have something against traditional Irish culture, why the hell don't you go to a different country? They don't speak much Irish in England, you could go there and be the Brit you've always wanted to be.

fedor.2.

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Why would you want it to? If you have something against traditional Irish culture, why the hell don't you go to a different country? They don't speak much Irish in England, you could go there and be the Brit you've always wanted to be.

Nah, im grand here, well, apart from the irish part like.

KeithAFC

Dionysus wrote: »

If I recall correctly - and I do - "Cork man" was here telling us all how the British queen was more welcome in Cork than she was in Dublin. This post in Afterhours was a fine response to the moronic, and thoroughly indisputable, idiocy underlining his claim to be "Irish".

Cork is seen as a Republic in its own right amongst many of its own people who disagree with Dublin and its rule over them. I think that is why you seen have many people from Cork with views like this and probably just use the British flag and symbols as a way of telling them.

Badgermonkey

Dionysus wrote: »

:rolleyes: Yet another self-hating Cork person trying to be English.

Trying to be English?

The OP is questioning whether the token use of Irish serves any useful purpose. That's a reasonable question to pose imo.

It's an odd wee world you inhabit, if posing such a question dilutes his Irishness somehow.

Guy:Incognito

Dionysus wrote: »

Speak English, please!

1 letter missing that confusing to you?

Dionysus

fedor.2. wrote: »

The sooner the Irish language dies out, which it will, the better

:rolleyes:. In the old days this sort of view would have classified somebody as "retarded". Nowadays, the education system is kinder and says "mild general learning disability".

As somebody whose family is Irish speaking, I will only say the following: the sooner you, and people as fanatically anti-Irish as you, die, the better for so, so many things - including the education standard in Ireland.

mod: poster banned.

Mike 1972

wolfpawnat wrote: »

Because some people have the ability to understand the Irish language. I have a small bit, but I always try to translate the Irish of anything before reading the English.

Thats a fine hobby you have there but I dont see why the rest of us should have to fund it.

Deleted User wrote: »

Because theyre the a National Broadcaster and it's some of our National Notional Language.

FYP

Dionysus

Badgermonkey wrote: »

The OP is questioning whether the token use of Irish serves any useful purpose.

The OP is merely aspiring to be an idiotic poster. His previous posts in Afterhours have given him many credits on the path to this ultimate triumph.

TanG411

I didn't receive one in English or in Irish yet.

Guy:Incognito

Dionysus wrote: »

:rolleyes:. In the old days this sort of view would have classified somebody as "retarded". Nowadays, the education system is kinder and says "mild general learning disability".

As somebody whose family is Irish speaking, I will only say the following: the sooner you, and people as fanatically anti-Irish as you, die, the better for so, so many things - including the education standard in Ireland.

Fanactically anti Irish? Whats wrong with dislikeing the language thats of no real use and just costs money? I've no issue with people speaking irish , I dont like having it forced on everyone and have huge amounts of money being pointlessly spent having everything written in 2 languages for no other reason than having to appease certain people.

fedor.2.

Dionysus wrote: »

:rolleyes:. In the old days this sort of view would have classified somebody as "retarded". Nowadays, the education system is kinder and says "mild general learning disability".

As somebody whose family is Irish speaking, I will only say the following: the sooner you, and people as fanatically anti-Irish as you, die, the better for so, so many things - including the education standard in Ireland.

So, what are you trying to say exactly? if you think you wasted your time learning irish, thats your problem, not mine

Stained Class

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Fanactically anti Irish? Whats wrong with dislikeing the language thats of no real use and just costs money? I've no issue with people speaking irish , I dont like having it forced on everyone and have huge amounts of money being pointlessly spent having everything written in 2 languages for no other reason than havign to appeas certain people.

Well said. +1

PseudoFamous

KeithAFC wrote: »

Cork is seen as a Republic in its own right amongst many of its own people who disagree with Dublin and its rule over them. I think that is why you seen have many people from Cork with views like this and probably just use the British flag and symbols as a way of telling them.

I find that to be the greatest diarrhoea I've ever read. They disagree with what happens in Dublin, so they decide to latch on to the Queen in retaliation? Sorry, but if Cork was still part of Britain, the city would come about 60th in terms of priority, and about the same on a county scale. Possibly even less if you were to consider the geographical distance between Cork and the parliament of the UK.

Personally, I'd say they're overall very happy with the country, and are pretty pleased that it's part of Ireland, with maybe 20% at the most wishing they were part of Britain. If they come second in priority to Dublin, that's still better than they would in the UK.

Bipolar Joe

Dionysus wrote: »

You're not doing your situation any favours with that rather pissy outlook, Bipolar Joe.

Yeah, I'm in a fairly sh!tty mood for the last few days. But I still make sense! Stupid pissy people. I came across a woman a few years ago who point blank refused to speak anything but Irish. I'm gonna learn Klingon and get everything printed in that.

The_Kew_Tour

mattjack wrote: »

why do people from Cork, call it The Real Capital..?

to piss people like you off...it works:p

Dionysus

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

1 letter missing that confusing to you?

Try again, in the Queen's English. Thanks.

It's quite unbecoming of anti-Irish language types to be unable to speak the English language properly, when Irish speakers can manage both. Perhaps, dare I say it, when the anti-Irish language types are simply not intelligent enough to master one language (English), their hostility to a second language (Irish) is understandable?

nlgbbbblth

Dionysus wrote: »

The OP is merely aspiring to be an idiotic poster. His previous posts in Afterhours have given him many credits on the path to this ultimate triumph.

I think he's already made it. :rolleyes:

Is there a biggest prick on boards.ie award yet?

fedor.2.

Dionysus wrote: »

Try again, in the Queen's English. Thanks.

It's quite unbecoming of anti-Irish language types to be unable to speak the English language properly, when Irish speakers can manage both. Perhaps, dare I say it, when the anti-Irish language types are simply not intelligent enough to master one language (English), their hostility to a second language (Irish) is understandable?

What are you talking about? you're not making any sense

Badgermonkey

ThinksAmoral wrote: »

I didn't receive one in English or in Irish yet.

It's three lines of instruction on how to set up a UHF aerial, followed by a four page apology for commissioning Mrs. Brown's Boys.

Bipolar Joe

Who else likes turtles?

KeithAFC

PseudoFamous wrote: »

I find that to be the greatest diarrhoea I've ever read. They disagree with what happens in Dublin, so they decide to latch on to the Queen in retaliation? Sorry, but if Cork was still part of Britain, the city would come about 60th in terms of priority, and about the same on a county scale. Possibly even less if you were to consider the geographical distance between Cork and the parliament of the UK.

Personally, I'd say they're overall very happy with the country, and are pretty pleased that it's part of Ireland, with maybe 20% at the most wishing they were part of Britain. If they come second in priority to Dublin, that's still better than they would in the UK.

I'm only saying the way some Cork people come across and the animosity they portray to Irish language and even the country.

Guy:Incognito

Dionysus wrote: »

Try again, in the Queen's English. Thanks.

It's quite unbecoming of anti-Irish language types to be unable to speak the English language properly, when Irish speakers can manage both. Perhaps, dare I say it, when the anti-Irish language types are simply not intelligent enough to master one language (English), their hostility to a second language (Irish) is understandable?

It's all good bruv, innit. Chill.