Do You Drink and Drive.....?

crosstownk

Maybe this has been done before but I don't recall seeing it.

There's been some hoohaa over the recent 50 limit.

So would you drive after a pint or two or more?

Don't answer as you should feel you should but be honest - it's not public so let's get an accurate response.

Sticjones

The 1 or 2 pint limit rule is complete rubbish, it depends on millions of factors:

1. Your alcohol tolerance level/metabolic rate
2. Food consumed before/during drinking
3. The amount of time it took you to consume the alcohol
4. Your tiredness level
5. Your weight/fitness level
6. Your age

So I won't be following that rule of thumb anyway.

The new limits are actually more lenient when you look at the punishments, over 0.08 (Which is the current limit now) but under 0.1 = automatic court appearance now + 1 year license suspension + fine. The new rules if you are between those limits are: no court appearance, license suspension for 6 months + 400 euro fixed charge.

I am expecting the high-horse brigade along any minute now with their tired old mantra "weh weh bleh what's the point driving at all if you are going to consume alcohol" etc. So maybe the legal forum would have been a better option for this.

spiggotpaddy

crosstownk wrote: »

Maybe this has been done before but I don't recall seeing it.

There's been some hoohaa over the recent 50 limit.

So would you drive after a pint or two or more?

Don't answer as you should feel you should but be honest - it's not public so let's get an accurate response.

you might get more honest replies if you asked ;

do you think a hadron collider is powered by fairy dust.

Samich

Hello guard

crosstownk

spiggotpaddy wrote: »

do you think a hadron collider is powered by fairy dust.

Tut, tut

Everyone knows it's powered by a Flux Capacitor.

matt-dublin

crosstownk wrote: »

spiggotpaddy wrote: »

do you think a hadron collider is powered by fairy dust.

Tut, tut

Everyone knows it's powered by a Flux Capacitor.

I'm sorry but your wrong, the flux capacitor only regulates the power, it's actually powered by left over plasma from the USS
Enterprise

crosstownk

matt-dublin wrote: »

I'm sorry but your wrong, the flux capacitor only regulates the power, it's actually powered by left over plasma from the USS
Enterprise

Which Enterprise? B? C? D? Either way it's cheaper than my local Topaz

spiggotpaddy

crosstownk wrote: »

Tut, tut

Everyone knows it's powered by a Flux Capacitor.

A Higgs boson walks into a church. The priest says "We don't allow Higgs bosons in here.
The Higgs boson says, "Hah! Without me you can't have Mass!!

have we gone "hic" slightly off topic already.

joolsveer

Would it not be better to a law which bans an alcohol level above zero? It would make it easier to understand.

matt-dublin

crosstownk wrote: »

matt-dublin wrote: »

I'm sorry but your wrong, the flux capacitor only regulates the power, it's actually powered by left over plasma from the USS
Enterprise

Which Enterprise? B? C? D? Either way it's cheaper than my local Topaz

Gotta be d my friend, or maybe E but the Borg destroyed it.

patwicklow

I never would if im going to the pub for some thing to eat il have a rock shandy because i have the car out side. Then when im heading to the pub sat nite i get dropped over only 3 miles away, and the land lord drives us home. that way i can relax get pissed and no worries so once you arrange it much better then taking risks with your life and others.

Sticjones

patwicklow wrote: »

I never would if im going to the pub for some thing to eat il have a rock shandy because i have the car out side. Then when im heading to the pub sat nite i get dropped over only 3 miles away, and the land lord drives us home. that way i can relax get pissed and no worries so once you arrange it much better then taking risks with your life and others.

Well done.

Mr Benevolent

No feckin' way am I drink driving, with the new laws for provisional and newly licenced drivers I wouldn't have a hope of getting away with it. All I had tonight was one non-alcoholic Becks.

A Martini and apple juice is in my hand now though.

crosstownk

matt-dublin wrote: »

Gotta be d my friend, or maybe E but the Borg destroyed it.

Picard was on the Earl Grey but was Riker drunk driving???

Sticjones

matt-dublin wrote: »

Gotta be d my friend, or maybe E

Driving after taking E is much worse than drink driving. At least with drink driving you have some idea of what's going on.

Mr Benevolent

Sticjones wrote: »

Driving after taking E is much worse than drink driving. At least with drink driving you have some idea of what's going on.

I doubt anyone could swallow the Enterprise E.

I've driven when very tired a couple times and that was scary enough, wouldn't go near it with any drink

crosstownk

Sticjones wrote: »

Driving after taking E is much worse than drink driving. At least with drink driving you have some idea of what's going on.

The last time I saw NCC-1701-E there were no Gardaí at checkpoints. Just pesky Borgs, but 7 of 9 made it all better.

Sticjones

crosstownk wrote: »

The last time I saw NCC-1701-E there were no Gardaí at checkpoints. Just pesky Borgs, but 7 of 9 made it all better.

lol

crosstownk

jfgi

Damokc

Sure I only get confident enough to drive after about 8 or 9.....


I jest, i think most of the drink driving is done by older drivers,say over 45? I'm 28 and wouldn't even consider it.

Sticjones

More of a "Star Wars" man myself! I could guide easily the millennium falcon to victory after 8-10 pints!

SV

Not a hope.

crosstownk

Sticjones wrote: »

More of a "Star Wars" man myself! I could guide easily the millennium falcon to victory after 8-10 pints!

But could you down eight pints of Guinness and make the jump to hyperspace safely from Mos Eisley to Alderaan?

-Corkie-

Why on earth would you want to stop in a pub for one???:rolleyes:

Its all or nothing with me.:)

Mycroft H

I've driven once when really really tired. Had to pull in for a snooze cos I knew my driving was getting sloppy and dangerous.

Cannot imagine me thinking rationally like that in a drunken state. Not even after a sip for me

dgt

A drunk driver crashed into my father many years ago. He hit him doing approximately 80mph. As this happened at night we had to drive him to the eye and ear in Dublin. Glass in his right eye from the impact. It had to be taken out or he would have gone blind. Pity I wasn't told afterwards what was going on. As a 7 year old I went looking for him. I found him in a room where a nurse was picking shards of glass out of his eye with a tweezers like scissors, eye turned inside out, roaring in pain as he had to be conscious for this to happen. That evening has never left my memory and will forever haunt me.

So from a very young age I developed a hatred for drink driving. I would never think of doing it myself despite being the occasional drinker, I would rather get a lift in and spend the few quid to get a taxi home.

As for drink drivers out there, theyre out there still. Whether they get mangled round a tree or thrown in jail, I won't lose sleep either way, that will be one less on the road. A dead loss to society the lot of them

MugMugs

Generally todays youth won't drive to the pub and drive home locked. What concerns me is the next day. When's it safe? It's got to the stage I won't drink Sunday to Friday now for fear of being pulled the next day.

They shouldn't be allowed do you the next day if you still have the receipt for your Spar brekkie roll. Everybody knows a good brekkie roll extracts all alcohol immediately.

Hiace.

The new drink drive limit are just another political publicity stunt. They are tight enough the way they are, why change them.

It now seems that if you have one pint or a glass of wine and with your meal you're a dangerous criminal and a menace to society.

Yet smoke some skunk, pop a few pills and drive around off your tits no checks, no detection, no enforcement.

When are they going to do something about drug driving ?

KTRIC

Kirk or Picard ???


:pac:

CiniO

Sticjones wrote: »

The 1 or 2 pint limit rule is complete rubbish, it depends on millions of factors:

1. Your alcohol tolerance level/metabolic rate
2. Food consumed before/during drinking
3. The amount of time it took you to consume the alcohol
4. Your tiredness level
5. Your weight/fitness level
6. Your age

So I won't be following that rule of thumb anyway.

Whatever you say, there is no physical possibillity, that any adult person would be over current limit (0.8) after drinking one pint of beer.

oompaloompa

I would never ever drive after even one drink. If one drink doesn't effect you so it's ok to drive, then why bother having that one drink?

CiniO

joolsveer wrote: »

Would it not be better to a law which bans an alcohol level above zero? It would make it easier to understand.

I doubt it.
Imagine you go on a stag party with your friends in some remote place.
You drink more they you were planning to, and next morning you wake up with big hangover. I'm sure it happened to most of us.
Anyway - you have to drive home that day.
If limit was 0, what do you think is the save hour to go home?

CiniO

-Corkie- wrote: »

Why on earth would you want to stop in a pub for one???:rolleyes:

Its all or nothing with me.:)

I'm always having one, max two. Even if I'm not driving.
Why would you want to have more?

vectra

Lost my licence 30 years ago because of being stupid ( stupidly drunk)
Never again

angelfire9

My family LOVE me at Christmas (*well i kinda hope all year round but especially at christmas) cos I don't drink when I'm out so I become the family taxi service :D
Last Christmas Aisling (my youngest) was born on December 20th & my mother moaned at me in the maternity that they'd miss my taxi service over the holidays
I hate it though when your in the pub and someone says "arra go on have one it won't kill ya"
I am perfectly happy with a glass of coke or a lucozade I don't need alcohol to have a bit of craic
I'd have a glass of wine at home or a drink with the hubby but I NEVER drink when I'm out of the house
(one bad experience thought me tis better be sober and keep my wits about me)

Its funny all the young ones here saying young people don't drink and drive
They do!

unkel

CiniO wrote: »

Whatever you say, there is no physical possibillity, that any adult person would be over current limit (0.8) after drinking one pint of beer.

Bullsh1t. A small / skinny / petite woman (8 stone / 50KG) who drinks 1 pint of lager / stout (4% alcohol) in one hour is over the current limit (0.8)

Stinicker

I don't normally drink and this year have drank a massive one 330ml can of beer! and that was when I exhausted all other fluids in the hotel mini-bar while in the middle of a massive dose of the delhi belly whilst on vacation in Thailand!

I drunk drove once in my entire life after a few beers and I really didn't care as it was the day of the funeral of my late grandmother, I drove home about 3 miles and it was such a stupid thing to have done, never again. I don't drink usually and generally shy away from pubs and with this being Ireland my social life has suffered to say the least! My main hate of this country is how everyone is such a drunk and the way peoples social life revolves around getting locked drunk every weekend!

unkel

Mind, a big fella (15 stone / 95KG) drinking 4 pints of the same lager / stout (4% alcohol) over 4 hours is below the current limit (0.8%)

Esel

unkel wrote: »

Bullsh1t. A small / skinny / petite woman (8 stone / 50KG) who drinks 1 pint of lager / stout (4% alcohol) in one hour is over the current limit (0.8)

Where does she drink? PM her number please.

shawnee

Esel wrote: »

Where does she drink? PM her number please.

Msg me too , talk about economy , she is any man's dream.:D:D

CiniO

unkel wrote: »

Bullsh1t. A small / skinny / petite woman (8 stone / 50KG) who drinks 1 pint of lager / stout (4% alcohol) in one hour is over the current limit (0.8)

Not according to wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content

There's a table with relation to standard US drink (335ml beer of 5%).

If you take woman of 55kg (just a slightly bigger than yours) and give her 2 standard US drinks (670ml of 5% beer) - which is way bigger than 1 pint of 4% (it's about 1 and a half pint), she still will be under 0.8

But according to this table, your 15stone fella, after four drinks, would be way over the limit.

Agricola

Could I drink 2 or 3 pints and drive home safely? Without a doubt. Would I? Not worth the risk.
A couple of years ago I missed a 9pm show in the cinema, so we decided to go to the pub til the late show at 11.30. I drank 3 pints in that time and then walked across the road to the cinema. I never eat in the cinema either by the way. The film ended around 1am. On the way home I hit a checkpoint and was breathalysed. I thought some level of alcohol would show up but was shocked to see the display on the breathalyzer say "ZERO" Im 13.5 stone and 6ft.

Hiace.

I don't bother with drink driving, too much hassle.

Drug driving is the way to go these days, far handier, and no hassle or enforcement.

The RSA, the Cops, and the courts, are 20 years behind when it comes to Drug driving.

djPSB

Its the morning after drinking thats the killer.. If ya have 8 or 9 pints and finish drinkin around 2am, there's a fair chance you will be over the limit if your driving early the next morning.

spiggotpaddy

Hiace. wrote: »

I don't bother with drink driving, too much hassle.

Drug driving is the way to go these days, far handier, and no hassle or enforcement.

The RSA, the Cops, and the courts, are 20 years behind when it comes to Drug driving.

yeah, but when a chevrolet "kalos" pulls up, three klingons get out.

Hiace.

spiggotpaddy wrote: »

yeah, but when a chevrolet "kalos" pulls up, three klingons get out.

I bing them over, because it's blue for the apples.

conzy

Might drive if I had one beer with dinner or something but I would wait about an hour before driving. Its really not worth the risks.. plus getting breathalysed when your as sober as a judge is hugely satisfying ha!

And dont mean to stereotype but I think the main culprits of drink driving (as in drunk) are people who have been doing it since the 70s

Elessar

I would regularly have a pint and drive home afterwards, usually I'm driving a relative who's had a lot more thanks to me being the taximan

Mind you, the pint would be drunk over the space of an hour to an hour and a half. I sometimes have two, with a dinner, over the space of three hours or so. Never have I felt it unsafe to drive in these conditions.

opinion guy

CiniO wrote: »

Whatever you say, there is no physical possibillity, that any adult person would be over current limit (0.8) after drinking one pint of beer.

unkel wrote: »

Bullsh1t. A small / skinny / petite woman (8 stone / 50KG) who drinks 1 pint of lager / stout (4% alcohol) in one hour is over the current limit (0.8)

unkel wrote: »

Mind, a big fella (15 stone / 95KG) drinking 4 pints of the same lager / stout (4% alcohol) over 4 hours is below the current limit (0.8%)

Its not that simple or predictable - you can't extrapolate from body size or build. Metabolism comes into it. If you have liver impairment for example, possibly without knowing it, you might breakdown alcohol more slowly. Some Asian people, or people of Asian heritage, lack the enzymes altogether necessary to metabolise alcohol and thus there blood alcohol levels will remain higher for longer (amongst other things).

spiggotpaddy

conzymaher wrote: »

Might drive if I had one beer with dinner or something but I would wait about an hour before driving. Its really not worth the risks.. plus getting breathalysed when your as sober as a judge is hugely satisfying ha!

And dont mean to stereotype but I think the main culprits of drink driving (as in drunk) are people who have been doing it since the 70s

i would have agreed with this, say ten years ago.
but i think we have a whole new generation of carefree "sure you'll be grand"
drivers out there.