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Starting Strengh advice

  • 26-08-2011 3:26pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭


    So a couple of weeks ago I posted a bizzare prgram that a instructor in my gym had put together for me. After looking at all the crtisims Ive read up on Strating STrenght and have started to follow, the program. Im starting week four and was wondering if anyone has any advice for me. I changed the standing military press to a seadted one. My back just couldnt take it. I could probably do with introducing some abs work outs any advice?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Mr_Hat wrote: »
    So a couple of weeks ago I posted a bizzare prgram that a instructor in my gym had put together for me. After looking at all the crtisims Ive read up on Strating STrenght and have started to follow, the program. Im starting week four and was wondering if anyone has any advice for me. I changed the standing military press to a seadted one. My back just couldnt take it. I could probably do with introducing some abs work outs any advice?

    How do you mean your back couldn't take it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭jugger0


    Mr_Hat wrote: »
    So a couple of weeks ago I posted a bizzare prgram that a instructor in my gym had put together for me. After looking at all the crtisims Ive read up on Strating STrenght and have started to follow, the program. Im starting week four and was wondering if anyone has any advice for me. I changed the standing military press to a seadted one. My back just couldnt take it. I could probably do with introducing some abs work outs any advice?

    If your back cant take standing press your gonna need a wheelchair after squats and deadlifts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭Mr_Hat


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    How do you mean your back couldn't take it?

    I have some lower back problems. I was feeling pain in my lower back each time I presssed. But now I've switched to seated I have no problems. I assume I'm still working the shoulders in the same way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭Mr_Hat


    jugger0 wrote: »
    If your back cant take standing press your gonna need a wheelchair after squats and deadlifts.

    Surprisingly not. I haven't had any problems with squats, deadlifts or even power cleans. To be fair at the moment the weight isnt that heavy and I suppose I could of just used a belt for the press.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    jugger0 wrote: »
    If your back cant take standing press your gonna need a wheelchair after squats and deadlifts.

    Not necessarily.... Pretty different stabilisation requirements in a practical sense. You see a lot of people with "strong" cores fold backwards in the middle when they're pressing.
    Mr_Hat wrote: »
    Surprisingly not. I haven't had any problems with squats, deadlifts or even power cleans. To be fair at the moment the weight isnt that heavy and I suppose I could of just used a belt for the press.

    Terrible idea. There's either an inherent weakness or technique issues. When you're pressing you should be squeezing your abs like you're tryna take a poop, and squeezing your ass like you're tryna hold one in. Squeezing your glutes is crucial to prevent bending backwards.
    Mr_Hat wrote: »
    I have some lower back problems. I was feeling pain in my lower back each time I presssed. But now I've switched to seated I have no problems. I assume I'm still working the shoulders in the same way.

    Probably just not used to stabilising. Ever done any plan variations? Any rotational work like Pallof presses, land mines, twists? Something like plate shifting, side bridging and pallof presses could be a good idea.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭Mr_Hat


    Hanley wrote: »
    . Ever done any plan variations? Any rotational work like Pallof presses, land mines, twists? Something like plate shifting, side bridging and pallof presses could be a good idea.

    Nope, Im afraid I've never heard of them.. Thanks for the advice on the press. I'll be sure to try it next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭d'Oracle


    Mr_Hat wrote: »
    Nope, Im afraid I've never heard of them.. Thanks for the advice on the press. I'll be sure to try it next time.

    Have a google.
    They should all be up there somewhere.

    The other thing is that if your upperback isn't flexible (or to be more accurate Extensible) the you might be bending your lower back to compensate and keep the bar in balance.

    Or you could be pressing with a wonky path.

    Basically there could be a few things, but there isn't much people can do without looking at the press.

    I wouldn't throw it out though. It does a lot more than just "your shoulders".
    Try Hanleys colourful cue and see if it helps.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    d'Oracle wrote: »
    Have a google.
    They should all be up there somewhere.

    The other thing is that if your upperback isn't flexible (or to be more accurate Extensible) the you might be bending your lower back to compensate and keep the bar in balance.

    Or you could be pressing with a wonky path.

    Basically there could be a few things, but there isn't much people can do without looking at the press.

    I wouldn't throw it out though. It does a lot more than just "your shoulders".
    Try Hanleys colourful cue and see if it helps.

    Upper back flexibility/throacic mobility is a good shout tbh and another possible issue to look at.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭Mr_Hat


    Sorry, I really should of explained my problem. I have Scoliosis, which is a curvature in the spine. Its resonably mild and I have no differance of shoulder height or anything like that. But what it does mean is that I can not stand for long periods (anything longer then a hour) and I also have a very weak lower back.


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