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Business information systems
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25-08-2011 3:21pm#1Hey,
Im starting this course in September, is anybody else here?
Anyone that is currently doing it able to give any insight? e.g hours per week etc
really looking forward to it now that I got my accommodation sorted yesterday.:D0
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I am going into 4th year of the course. Just finishing up my work placement tomorrow.
Regards first year, here is the timetable of first years last year(for the first semester)
Of course it is bound to change but its usually a easy reference on what to go by.
my number 1 advice is, just keep an eye on accounting, its the number 1 subject that everyone fails on. Keep up with the weekly assignments, they are so simple and the lecturers are throwing marks at you for your final exams so just do them, it will save you so much in the long term.
If you need any help with the subjects I don't mind helping out I do enjoy the course and want to see other people enjoying it. Shout if you have any other questions
cool, thanks alot
I like how they had fridays off last year, wouldn't mind that again this year
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yay:DFriday off is a ongoing theme in BIS, I remember in second year when we had one lecture on a Friday we got it moved to a Tuesday just to get Friday off.The course is a good course and offers you a lot, if you get good grades in first year you have the chance to go to college in America(I took this up and went to Clarkson University for second semester) In third year you go on work placement for Second Semester and work , depending on your placement you can get it for 3 months, 6 months or 8 months(I am currently on 8 months) Obviously the better CV/grades you get the better opportunity you get and better placement.
I really like the sound of that. but how good do your grades need to be. Obviously Id be willing to work hard but Im just thinking that america may be out of my reach? does the American college sponsor you? pay for flights etc?The course is very simple, Hold onto your notes for each year and assignments(good organisation is ideal) as a lot of projects will use stuff you learnt the following year. also you should keep your books as books will be reused for notes and what not( a lot of second years sell on their first year books, and then looking to buy them back again later down the course year)
Do you need to buy many books? are all the notes put up on blackboard or will have have to take notes down in lectures too?This course is both business and computer orientated. You will be doing programming in VB.NET, Java, C++ and some c# and php. You will be doing a lot of database work also in the technology side. You need to be good on both business and technology to do well, a lot of students fail and need to repeat for not working on one or two of their subjects. So just be aware what is happening in the lectures and if you have any problems just ask, it really is simple.
hmm yeah, the difficulty of the programming is one area which would particularly worry me. Is it manageable for one with little/no programming experience?
sorry for all the questions
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yay:D
I really like the sound of that. but how good do your grades need to be. Obviously Id be willing to work hard but Im just thinking that america may be out of my reach? does the American college sponsor you? pay for flights etc?
Grades aren't that difficult you would prob need 60-65%+ You get your visa paid by the college, but flights and accommodation you need to pay for and living costs. It is a small bit costly, but you don't need to pay for education fees over there(65,000$ per year) and From what I can see Clarkson is becoming an IVEY league college in the near future.so well worth it on your CV, but its not suited for people its just handy to option is there.Do you need to buy many books? are all the notes put up on blackboard or will have have to take notes down in lectures too?
All of the lecture slides will be up on blackboard, but certain courses wont have them, or lack of notes in general and more of sitting down and doing the work after 3-4 weeks you can see what courses do this.
Book wise, their are some books that are a must and other aren't. Accounting and the programming book are a must just for the examples and what not!hmm yeah, the difficulty of the programming is one area which would particularly worry me. Is it manageable for one with little/no programming experience?
sorry for all the questions
thanks
The programming is called Business Application Development, the lecture itself is ok, but the workshops on at Thursday morning 10-12 are great, they go through the assignments you have to do and help you with them on what you did that week. When i did that course you had to hand in an assignments every 2-3 weeks these were worth 2-4% each so really handy to getting marks there when done right, you will get 20% in the bag from that and already half way from passing the course.
A lot of students had little to none programming experience coming in and what i believe one of them is now doing a full time programming job as their work placement and is loving it.
Like I said before with the continues assignments in the programming class. A Lot of the courses will have continues assignments which are worth 1-2% each, but you will be doing them every 1-2 weeks so they do add up. Just keep on top of them and make sure you had them in, because they really help people pass the course.
The first 3-4 weeks might be boring with them going through the basics of different things but just make sure you keep on top of what is being thought and what is due in and when, If you understand how the course is run you can pass it no problem.0 -
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Grades aren't that difficult you would prob need 60-65%+ You get your visa paid by the college, but flights and accommodation you need to pay for and living costs. It is a small bit costly, but you don't need to pay for education fees over there(65,000$ per year) and From what I can see Clarkson is becoming an IVEY league college in the near future.so well worth it on your CV, but its not suited for people its just handy to option is there.
thats interesting, thanks did many people go to america from your year?All of the lecture slides will be up on blackboard, but certain courses wont have them, or lack of notes in general and more of sitting down and doing the work after 3-4 weeks you can see what courses do this.
so between lecturer slides on blackboard and "sitting down and doing the work" Il have enough and won't need to take down personal notes in lectures or is that necessary?The programming is called Business Application Development, the lecture itself is ok, but the workshops on at Thursday morning 10-12 are great, they go through the assignments you have to do and help you with them on what you did that week. When i did that course you had to hand in an assignments every 2-3 weeks these were worth 2-4% each so really handy to getting marks there when done right, you will get 20% in the bag from that and already half way from passing the course.
thanks thats great information
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Hi there! I'll be doing Business Information Systems myself this year also, so all that is a great help Columc, thanks a million. I look forward to seeing you in the lectures, Gadhafi!
Hey yeah Columc is a great help:)
Likewise to you Sir:) you don't know when the lectures start? I know orientation is on the 10th.
EDIT:http://www.nuigalway.ie/student_services/documents/orientation_buslaw.html
what orientation do we have to attend?
Is it just the one at 14.30 in Room AC202 Arts/Science Building or am I missing something?
Whereabouts are you staying? PM if you want, I'm going to be in Rahoon:)0 -
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Introduction lectures I think are as per usual timetable during Freshers week, we'll get the timetable at the orientation I'd imagine.Hey yeah Columc is a great help:)
Likewise to you Sir:) you don't know when the lectures start? I know orientation is on the 10th.
EDIT:http://www.nuigalway.ie/student_services/documents/orientation_buslaw.html
what orientation do we have to attend?
Is it just the one at 14.30 in Room AC202 Arts/Science Building or am I missing something?
Whereabouts are you staying? PM if you want, I'm going to be in Rahoon:)
I think the orientation's we attend is that one and the ones' titled ‘Business Studies’, which seems grand enough.
I'll be statying at the Cuirt Na Coiribe student complex across the river up around Terryland, I'll be about for most of the week before everything kicks off so I might drop you a PM and see what's up, and you with me if you're cool with that. Look forward to seeing you about. 0 -
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For the new first years, here is an updated version for this year BIS first year, this might change but is the basis for this semester
EDIT: Looking at the two of them, they are the same so this is more then likely your timetable for first semester. I remembered Monday being hectic day as well 0 -
Damn, not a morning person.For the new first years, here is an updated version for this year BIS first year, this might change but is the basis for this semester
EDIT: Looking at the two of them, they are the same so this is more then likely your timetable for first semester. I remembered Monday being hectic day as well
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DOSSERS TIPS 1.01 - Get a job and work all year round, Don't do exams until repeats are on in August. This lets you get away with doing NO course work all year. Extremely easy course to pass, difficult to perfect. Start studying then in 4th year. Try bagging a goof group for the FYP and if you can organize your own work placement in 3rd year all the better.
As previous poster mentioned, keep an eye out for accounting in first year....extremely high failure rate.
PRO'S
1. Lecturers dying to make u pass so its v easy to get through
2. Your degree is only based upon your 4th year result so just do a bit of study in 4th year
3. Some of the subjects are genuinely interesting.
CON'S
1. Classes are small so lecturers know your name (some nerds see this as a pro) but when you're hungover as Shane McGowan 3 mornings a week, not turning up and they are asking you questions you will soon see it as a con
2. Lecturers lie to you about % rates of alumni employment
3. A lot of people drop out.0 -
CON'S
1. Classes are small so lecturers know your name (some nerds see this as a pro) but when you're hungover as Shane McGowan 3 mornings a week, not turning up and they are asking you questions you will soon see it as a con
2. Lecturers lie to you about % rates of alumni employment
3. A lot of people drop out.
2)Ya, because people with bad grades, no good work placement or no activity to show future employers really want to take them on as a full time employee.
3)A lot of people drop out because a)they thought it was a backdoor entrance into commerce and wasn't expecting all the technology part. b)People think this is a easy course and do no work throughout the year and fail everything.
Last year top students got full time employment in Deloite, Google, Microsoft, Accenture. Others are progressing onto a Masters, and some are doing part-time masters. The rest probably don't have good jobs, or even jobs. I wonder what group they fell into.
If you don't want to do any work, drink 24/7 and only want to go to college cause your mummy and daddy is paying for it, there is a lot more easier courses to do. Work hard you get a lot of opportunities for yourself in the future.0 -
I shall begin by disclosing the fact that I am a graduate of BIS.
2)Ya, because people with bad grades, no good work placement or no activity to show future employers really want to take them on as a full time employee.
When I was in final year, we received an email during the year indicating the employment figures for the previous year's graduates. Being friends with quite a few of them I decided to ask around as to what they and their fellow graduates were doing. Where ever these stats were pulled from they were absolutely farcical and in no way reflected the "actual results". Although your response is acurate, it in no way addresses my point - I merely stated indifferent to context that "Lecturers lie to you about % rates of alumni employment"
3)A lot of people drop out because a)they thought it was a backdoor entrance into commerce and wasn't expecting all the technology part. b)People think this is a easy course and do no work throughout the year and fail everything.
This assessment is spot on.
Last year top students got full time employment in Deloite, Google, Microsoft, Accenture. Others are progressing onto a Masters, and some are doing part-time masters. The rest probably don't have good jobs, or even jobs. I wonder what group they fell into.
Key words in above passage are "top students".....you have named 4 top companies who more than likely employed no more than 6 graduates?? The moral of the story is that one only reaps what one sows. The level of effort devoted to the course is what will determine future employment prospects. There are certainly lots of prospects in Ireland working with a large number of multinationals.
I for one undertook an unconventional and somewhat apathetic route - many of my peers would say I cheated my way to a degree. Having attended lectures until the end of October of first year, I decided to stop attending lectures and began working full time while still enrolled in college. I did not see the inside of a lecture hall again until final year. I passed exams that had no continuous assessment on first sitting and attempted the rest in August where I would only have to pass the exams when no continuous assessments were included. I passed first, second and third year doing this and then attended lectures for final year and ultimately graduated with a high ranged 2.1. It is a tactic that I since regret although my reasoning now was I was simply too immature starting the course at 17.
Since graduating, I have become acutely more aware of some fundamental flaws in the Course for the habitually average graduate.
The course dips into everything but delves into nothing. This leaves students ineptly average at a broad spectrum of subjects. It may be an idea to specialize in final year allowing students to choose a "major"
In current economic conditions, I am sure that the current batch of students are more aware of how competitive the job marketplace - Decide now!!!
If you don't want to do any work, drink 24/7 and only want to go to college cause your mummy and daddy is paying for it, there is a lot more easier courses to do. Work hard you get a lot of opportunities for yourself in the future.
On a lighter note, I was unaware that "mummy and daddy" were still paying for peoples soft life at college
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Haha! This is great, I thought your degree was based on your results on 3rd and 4th year? And Colum, for a lad who's parents are paying for him to do the course as well as living at home so you don't have any expenses, you really can't say nothing about people with rich "mummys and daddys", your in once in a blue moon aswell! 0
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2 gems from Cribbin!witnessrenegade wrote: »And Colum, for a lad who's parents are paying for him to do the course as well as living at home so you don't have any expenses, you really can't say nothing about people with rich "mummys and daddys", your in once in a blue moon aswell!witnessrenegade wrote: »Any ladies who need a personal hand with the course give us a shout!;):D0
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