Tea Party freedom in action:

RichieC

Ohio Republican congressman, Steve Chabot (tea party endorsed) held an open town hall meeting in a public place, then ordered the police to confiscate everyones cameras because they were chanting "where's the jobs"

http://www.truth-out.org/gop-rep-chabot-bans-cameras-town-hall-constituents-chant-where-are-jobs/1314118405

http://www.pixiq.com/article/ohio-congressman-bans-cameras-from-town-hall-meeting

Time to take our country back indeed, Steve.

this is what you sign up to when you vote in socially regressive candidates.

matthew8

RichieC wrote: »

Ohio Republican congressman, Steve Chabot (tea party endorsed) held an open town hall meeting in a public place, then ordered the police to confiscate everyone cameras because they were chanting "where's the jobs"

http://www.truth-out.org/gop-rep-chabot-bans-cameras-town-hall-constituents-chant-where-are-jobs/1314118405

http://www.pixiq.com/article/ohio-congressman-bans-cameras-from-town-hall-meeting

Time to take our country back indeed, Steve.

this is what you sign up to when you vote in socially regressive candidates.

What an idiot. He should have explained that the tea party actually have very little power but when they do in 2012 the jobs will come.

Mark200

matthew8 wrote: »

What an idiot. He should have explained that the tea party actually have very little power but when they do in 2012 the jobs will come.

:pac: You're funny

matthew8

Mark200 wrote: »

:pac: You're funny

What power have they had? McConnell and Boehner and Scott and Collins and Snowe and all the RINOs in congress have jumped into bed with the democrats to continue with more of the same.

Amerika

Doesn’t really make sense since he allowed the media to film the event, except maybe for the fact that we have seen what happens when people take things out of context and it becomes an internet sensation.

Perhaps he should take a page out of the Democrat’s new rulebook of not listening to their constituents by holding very few town hall meetings.

Mark200

matthew8 wrote: »

What power have they had? McConnell and Boehner and Scott and Collins and Snowe and all the RINOs in congress have jumped into bed with the democrats to continue with more of the same.

Well they had significant power in the debt negotiations. Not just from Tea Party congressmen, but from the Tea Party as a lobby group.

But I was more talking about the idea that "when they do [have power] in 2012 the jobs will come."

matthew8

Mark200 wrote: »

Well they had significant power in the debt negotiations. Not just from Tea Party congressmen, but from the Tea Party as a lobby group.

But I was more talking about the idea that "when they do [have power] in 2012 the jobs will come."

We'll wait and see, I doubt that we will see jobs if Perry is elected (He's really just more George Bush than George Bush and not a proper tea partier).

What did the tea party's power come to in the debt negotiations? They got none of what they wanted.

They are in opposition.

Funglegunk

matthew8 wrote: »

What did the tea party's power come to in the debt negotiations? They got none of what they wanted.

They wanted the US to default right?

matthew8

Funglegunk wrote: »

They wanted the US to default right?

They wanted the debt ceiling not to be raised. The democrats were the ones who wanted to default.

FISMA

Funglegunk wrote: »

They wanted the US to default right?

Funglegunk,
If you believe that the US could possibly default over two trillion dollars, I am afraid that you have bought in to the hype and don't particularly understand the problem.

Two trillion, for the states isn't much of a problem.

Neither is 10 trillion. It is a high, but manageable figure.

The issue is that when you sit down and calculate ALL of the promises, debt, un-funded, and underfunded programs, the US is facing a debt that is over 100 trillion dollars.

Now that is a problem.

But seriously, 2 trillion? Blaming the Tea Party is just political rhetoric. Those Democrats that call this the Tea Party downgrade are just trying to divert attention from Obama.

Overheal

The issue is that when you sit down and calculate ALL of the promises, debt, un-funded, and underfunded programs, the US is facing a debt that is over 100 trillion dollars.

Now that is a problem.

Ah but look at that, and make sure you weigh it against over how many years those obligations are in place for. Then, you need to factor in the aggregate annual GDP(s) of those years, and/or the estimated federal tax income for all of those years.

matthew8 wrote: »

What power have they had? McConnell and Boehner and Scott and Collins and Snowe and all the RINOs in congress have jumped into bed with the democrats to continue with more of the same.

RINO. Noun, "Any Republican that doesn't vote with the Hive Mind."

And I thought the GOP believed in the First Amendment

Mark200

matthew8 wrote: »

We'll wait and see, I doubt that we will see jobs if Perry is elected (He's really just more George Bush than George Bush and not a proper tea partier).

What did the tea party's power come to in the debt negotiations? They got none of what they wanted.

They are in opposition.

The Tea Party had pretty much bullied any Republican who would even contemplate any revenue increases in the debt negotiations. They turned the discussion into one about ideology rather than reality.

I mean this kind of talk is ridiculous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKzGZj32LYc

If they had a deal where they had 10 dollars in cuts for every 1 dollar in tax increases, they say they would have walked away from it. I don't for a second believe that every candidate up there honestly believes that walking away from such a deal would have been in America's interests.

The Tea Party didn't get what they want in terms of not raising the debt ceiling, but their insane influence is certainly visible at the heart of American politics.

I'm not saying that the Republicans pre-Tea Party were noticeably better. But the Tea Party are certainly dragging the GOP in the wrong direction.

matthew8

Steve Chabot may be in trouble when trying to get re-elected, but senator Rand Paul is doing fine and is already more popular in Kentucky (which they both represent) than senator Mitch "compromise" McConnell, who is a 26 year senator and republican speaker from Kentucky. This is of course a good sign that people are tired of hypocrites like Mitch McConnell and want real change. Rand Paul voters obviously don't always translate into Ron Paul voters (Rand is like another Pat Buchanan, a member of the rapidly growing traditional conservative movement) but if he's popular in the GOP it means people are coming around to Ron Paul's views and could be tempted to vote for him.

This info is coming from the PPP tweets about their polling in Kentucky.

sarumite

matthew8 wrote: »

Steve Chabot may be in trouble when trying to get re-elected, but senator Rand Paul is doing fine and is already more popular in Kentucky (which they both represent) than senator Mitch "compromise" McConnell, who is a 26 year senator and republican speaker from Kentucky. This is of course a good sign that people are tired of hypocrites like Mitch McConnell and want real change. Rand Paul voters obviously don't always translate into Ron Paul voters (Rand is like another Pat Buchanan, a member of the rapidly growing traditional conservative movement) but if he's popular in the GOP it means people are coming around to Ron Paul's views and could be tempted to vote for him.

This info is coming from the PPP tweets about their polling in Kentucky.

Damn, I wish I could find that interview I watched with Rand Paul where explicitly states that he opposes cuts in medicare. It seems Dr. Rand Paul supports cuts to government spending, except when that government spending directly benefits him.

matthew8

sarumite wrote: »

Damn, I wish I could find that interview I watched with Rand Paul where explicitly states that he opposes cuts in medicare. It seems Dr. Rand Paul supports cuts to government spending, except when that government spending directly benefits him.

I don't quite know if that exists. What I do know is that people tend to insult Rand Paul and make things up about him.

sarumite

matthew8 wrote: »

I don't quite know if that exists. What I do know is that people tend to insult Rand Paul and make things up about him.

You may not know it exists, but it does. No insults, or making things up here.....just commenting on a interview I saw with him

I found a blog post referencing the video in question.

http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/06/17/rand-paul-opposes-medicare-and-medicaid-cuts-says-doctors-should-make-a-comfortable-living/

Rand Paul Opposes Medicare and Medicaid Cuts, Says Doctors Should “Make a Comfortable Living”



This post originally appeared on Think Progress.
U.S. Senate candidate Rand Paul (R-KY) has made opposition to the “heavy hand” of the federal government one of the hallmarks of his political ideology. Yet, despite his anti-government rhetoric, the Kentucky opthamologist has gone on record opposing cuts to the Medicare program, saying that “physicians should be allowed to make a comfortable living.” He has received at least $130,000 from Medicaid patients since 2005.