Charges Against Strauss-Kahn Dismissed

Scofflaw

A judge formally ordered the dismissal of all criminal charges against Dominique Strauss-Kahn on Tuesday, but he said his order would be stayed until an appellate court decides whether a special prosecutor should be appointed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/24/nyregion/charges-against-strauss-kahn-dismissed.html

There's a shock now.

cordially,
Scofflaw

Lockstep

Meh, I just found the entire thing to be a farce:

Part 1 was people going "SOMEONE IS ACCUSING HIM OF RAPE! BURN HIM!"
Part 2 is "SHE SEEMS QUESTIONABLE! BURN HER!"

thebman

Lockstep wrote: »

Meh, I just found the entire thing to be a farce:

Part 1 was people going "SOMEONE IS ACCUSING HIM OF RAPE! BURN HIM!"
Part 2 is "SHE SEEMS QUESTIONABLE! BURN HER!"

Lots of people with the alternate part 2.

Part 2 is "SHE SEEMS QUESTIONABLE BUT HE's RICH SO MONEY IS INVOLVED SOMEHOW! BURN HIM!"

Followed closely on this announcement particularly in American news sources with:

Part 3, "HE GOT OFF, HE HAS MONEY, MONEY WAS INVOLVED SOMEHOW! BURN HIM"

There is no justice for the person accused of rape. If not found guilty, it is still presumed they raped the person and just got off. If the person has money, even more so.

Nodin

Lockstep wrote: »

Meh, I just found the entire thing to be a farce:

Part 1 was people going "SOMEONE IS ACCUSING HIM OF RAPE! BURN HIM!"
Part 2 is "SHE SEEMS QUESTIONABLE! BURN HER!"

...and Part 3 will be En Francais....

AlekSmart

Scofflaw wrote: »

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/24/nyregion/charges-against-strauss-kahn-dismissed.html

There's a shock now.

cordially,
Scofflaw

Crikey Scofflaw reading through Ms Diallo's M.O. and her...mmmm..accounts of abuse in Guinea made me wonder if she had ever visted Ireland or perhaps encountered Pamela Izevbekhai on her travels...?

There's at least a mini-series in this ?

dermo88

In my opinion.

1. The motives were to distract the world financial system and buy time.
2. Timothy Geithner conspired to remove Dominique Strauss Kahn.
3. It is a travesty of justice.
4. West Africans can be unreliable sources of valid information at the best of times. She will be paid off, and paid off handsomely for what she has done.

Dr Galen

dermo88 wrote: »

In my opinion.

1. The motives were to distract the world financial system and buy time.
2. Timothy Geithner conspired to remove Dominique Strauss Kahn.
3. It is a travesty of justice.
4. West Africans can be unreliable sources of valid information at the best of times. She will be paid off, and paid off handsomely for what she has done.

Ehhhh what?

Is that just a hunch? I can kinda see the logic behind what you are saying, well what I mean is that I can see how but would you not think that's all a but far fetched?

Lockstep

dermo88 wrote: »

In my opinion.

1. The motives were to distract the world financial system and buy time.
2. Timothy Geithner conspired to remove Dominique Strauss Kahn.
3. It is a travesty of justice.
4. West Africans can be unreliable sources of valid information at the best of times. She will be paid off, and paid off handsomely for what she has done.

dlofnep

There is a smell of conspiracy from this one in fairness.

1saddude

dermo88 wrote: »

4. West Africans can be unreliable sources of valid information at the best of times. She will be paid off, and paid off handsomely for what she has done.

That's racist.

Scofflaw

1saddude wrote: »

4. West Africans can be unreliable sources of valid information at the best of times. She will be paid off, and paid off handsomely for what she has done.

That's racist.

Yes, it is. However, please use the 'report post' function, rather than starting a fight on the thread.

moderately,
Scofflaw

irishh_bob

dermo88 wrote: »

In my opinion.

1. The motives were to distract the world financial system and buy time.
2. Timothy Geithner conspired to remove Dominique Strauss Kahn.
3. It is a travesty of justice.
4. West Africans can be unreliable sources of valid information at the best of times. She will be paid off, and paid off handsomely for what she has done.

2. i doubt that , geithner and strauss kahn have the same cultural backround

nacho libre

If it was a conspiracy, the obvious candidate would be Sarkozy.

thebman

nacho libre wrote: »

If it was a conspiracy, the obvious candidate would be Sarkozy.

Sarkozy apparently warned him about his ways in a toilet telling him the American's didn't view such things the same way as the French and told him to watch himself.

Before going DSK also gave an interview saying if someone wanted to stop his bid for the presidency then his weakness for women would be how they would do it, not his politics.

Low and behold a month or two later we have this case against him with a series of events that does not quite add up, at least IMO. Who the hell commits a rape and rings the hotel to get their phone back? Surely you would leave the country first and ensure you were in the clear before doing so or just get a new phone and reclaim the number. A bit of hassle sure but if you had committed a crime like rape, I'm sure you'd put up with that hassle to get away with your crime.

Lots of other weird stuff bout it too though maybe he did do it and is a weird guy but we'll never know now the case is dropped.

AlekSmart

1saddude wrote: »

That's racist.

Alledgedly.....

dermo88

If it is racist to use the term I used towards West Africans, its unfortunate to state the evidence of history of the region since Independence from colonial powers in the 1950's. Nigeria (for example) has a lower per capita income adjusted for inflation today than it did at Independence in 1960.

This is a damning indictment of the leadership and its people.

Is it racist to look at the evidence, and arrive at a conclusion.

The very failure of the region gives some of the most base, right wing white supramacist elements of society justification for their views.

I wish I could state "West Africans are the epitome of honesty and good principles, and it is a shame that this woman has sullied their reputation".

But........

Scofflaw

dermo88 wrote: »

If it is racist to use the term I used towards West Africans, its unfortunate to state the evidence of history of the region since Independence from colonial powers in the 1950's. Nigeria (for example) has a lower per capita income adjusted for inflation today than it did at Independence in 1960.

This is a damning indictment of the leadership and its people.

Is it racist to look at the evidence, and arrive at a conclusion.

The very failure of the region gives some of the most base, right wing white supramacist elements of society justification for their views.

I wish I could state "West Africans are the epitome of honesty and good principles, and it is a shame that this woman has sullied their reputation".

But........

The problem here is that you're looking at a very complex question - socio-economic problems in sub-Saharan Africa (or West Africa more particularly) - and coming up with an answer based on race, which you then apply to individuals of that background. And that, my friend, is racism, which will earn you infractions and eventually a ban in this forum (and indeed most forums on boards.ie).

moderately,
Scofflaw

Nodin

AlekSmart wrote: »

Alledgedly.....

No. It is.

Nodin

irishh_bob wrote: »

2. i doubt that , geithner and strauss kahn have the same cultural backround

wha...?

thebman wrote:

Lots of other weird stuff bout it too though maybe he did do it and is a weird guy but we'll never know now the case is dropped.

Indeed. Being intelligent and wealthy is no insurance against acts of stupidity or brutal criminality, whichever this may have been.

alchemist33

The thing that bugs me the most is that a man who was technically innocent at the time was paraded before the cameras in handcuffs. When that happens to a US citizen abroad, the laws of that country are usually called into question.

stevenmu

What I really love about this whole affair is how it began with the American media and public trumpeting their moral superiority, how in France/Europe he would get away with it with a nod and a wink, but not in the good ole USA where fine upstanding Americans would make sure he was punished for his loose, immoral, godless ways.

And then they let him go.

AlekSmart

stevenmu wrote: »

What I really love about this whole affair is how it began with the American media and public trumpeting their moral superiority, how in France/Europe he would get away with it with a nod and a wink, but not in the good ole USA where fine upstanding Americans would make sure he was punished for his loose, immoral, godless ways.

And then they let him go.

Because they did'nt have a case.

I don't accept that the mainstream U.S.Media trumpeted their moral superiority to any great degree,but doubtless the God Fearin Baptisty organs did indeed point to the failings of the flesh.

DSK is just another anonymous suit,albeit with an interesting sounding moniker.

I'm far more taken by Ms.Diallo's story and role in the entire thing and particularly the supporting role of her incarcerated fellah.....it's a real pot-boiler alright !

AlekSmart

dermo88 wrote: »

If it is racist to use the term I used towards West Africans, its unfortunate to state the evidence of history of the region since Independence from colonial powers in the 1950's. Nigeria (for example) has a lower per capita income adjusted for inflation today than it did at Independence in 1960.

This is a damning indictment of the leadership and its people.

Is it racist to look at the evidence, and arrive at a conclusion.

The very failure of the region gives some of the most base, right wing white supramacist elements of society justification for their views.

I wish I could state "West Africans are the epitome of honesty and good principles, and it is a shame that this woman has sullied their reputation".

But........

Perhaps Dermo88,if you used the term "Personal" before conclusion it might clarify matters and pacify those who see Racism as your sole motivator.....?

BTW,I don't

tfitzgerald

I wonder will he now look for the sympathy vote in France and go for president after all

thebman

tfitzgerald wrote: »

I wonder will he now look for the sympathy vote in France and go for president after all

Well he has another case to fight in France against some journalist.

amacachi

stevenmu wrote: »

What I really love about this whole affair is how it began with the American media and public trumpeting their moral superiority, how in France/Europe he would get away with it with a nod and a wink, but not in the good ole USA where fine upstanding Americans would make sure he was punished for his loose, immoral, godless ways.

And then they let him go.

What I really love is the US did their classic over-blown Perp Walk as they always do in cases that matter politically in a way that suits them. I say "love", I may not mean "love".

dvpower

amacachi wrote: »

What I really love is the US did their classic over-blown Perp Walk as they always do in cases that matter politically in a way that suits them. I say "love", I may not mean "love".

You think this perp walk was politically directed? By whom?

Scofflaw

dermo88 wrote:

I hope he does go for the Presidency, and cuts all foreign aid to the likes of Nigeria and Somalia.

These are countries that have failed and should be recolonised in the interests of the civilised world. Their continued existence as independent states is living proof that Apartheid was a good idea.

dermo88 wrote:

Anything. Its New York......and the chambermaid was no oil painting either. She gave Guinea pig a new meaning.

Why would he screw her anyway. He might be a dirty old man, but hes got some taste judging by his wife......

Banned for a month.

The International Maid Fúcker is sort of the clear, although most French people don't want to see him on a ballot paper, and he is obviously a sexual predator.

Infracted.

Seriously, people, what is this stuff? Racism, AH style funnies...

moderately,
Scofflaw

tfitzgerald

Dermo88 is right about one thing Nigeria has failed but I don't think we as Irish can throw any stones at the moment Ireland is not looking too rosy. How about dsk for Irish president he might help us take our mind of things

amacachi

dvpower wrote: »

You think this perp walk was politically directed? By whom?

I don't know, but it doesn't happen without someone fairly high-up's say-so.

dermo88

Now where was I before I was so RUDELY interrupted.

Recent events in the financial markets are showing that it was done to distract the financial markets from the turmoil taking place, and 'buy time'. There is no doubt that Dominique Strauss Kahn has the ability, but there is integrity involved, and with a high public profile, particularly when dealing with some Third World countries and Northern European countries, there is a dim view taken of poor sexual morality.

The conduct of the Americans in their treatment of Dominique Strauss Kahn was disgusting. Land of the free, home of the brave......Jesus wept.

AlekSmart

dermo88 wrote: »

Now where was I before I was so RUDELY interrupted.

Recent events in the financial markets are showing that it was done to distract the financial markets from the turmoil taking place, and 'buy time'. There is no doubt that Dominique Strauss Kahn has the ability, but there is integrity involved, and with a high public profile, particularly when dealing with some Third World countries and Northern European countries, there is a dim view taken of poor sexual morality.

Yup Dermo88,I reckon Jacob Zuma knowes more than he's lettin on......