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WWE Night of Champions 2011 Pre Show Thread *Spoilers*

  • 23-08-2011 11:32am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭


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    John Cena became No. 1 Contender on Raw last night for the WWE Title so he faces Alberto Del Rio


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    We also have Orton vs Henry as announced on Smackdown.

    I'm guessing we'll see
    Truth/Miz vs Kofi/Even for the tag titles
    based on last night, and I'd imagine a fourway between Kelly/Eve/Beth/Natalya would make sense as well.

    I'm wondering if they'll keep the "every match for a title" gimmick going for this; if they do, Punk vs Nash could take a hit and be pushed right back...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I think we might see a triple threat for the US title with Ziggler, Swagger and Riley


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,732 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
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    Orton shouldn't smile. Well, not in a "I'm genuinely happy" way, it's okay if he does it in a "I kicked your wife in the f*cking head" way. He just looks weird in that poster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Barrington wrote: »
    Orton shouldn't smile. Well, not in a "I'm genuinely happy" way, it's okay if he does it in a "I kicked your wife in the f*cking head" way. He just looks weird in that poster

    Orton as a face dont work imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Orton as a face dont work imo

    Orton's been really good as a face the last few months. Much better than his tedious, dull work as a heel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Orton's been really good as a face the last few months. Much better than his tedious, dull work as a heel.

    I give all the credit to Christian for that :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Give these two the tag title shot and make me happy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭jmolloy


    is this sky sports or sky box office


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    jmolloy wrote: »
    is this sky sports or sky box office

    Pretty sure it said Sky Sports in the ad last week on smackdown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    I'm wondering if they'll keep the "every match for a title" gimmick going for this; if they do, Punk vs Nash could take a hit and be pushed right back...

    Yeah it would go against the actual concept of the PPV, but last year Punk lost to Big Show in the only match on the card which didn't have a title on the line. Punk's hair or mask may have been on the line, I don't remember exactly.

    It was in Chicago though so they really had to have Punk on the card.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    They could get away with a promo from Nash or Punk and have the two of them beating the crap out of each other until its broken up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    They could get away with a promo from Nash or Punk and have the two of them beating the crap out of each other until its broken up.

    I think it would be criminal to not have Punk wrestle on PPV right now, he's too hot not to be in an advertised match.

    Not sure if Punk Vs Nash = huge buys, but it already has me more intrigued than Cena/DelRio that's for sure.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,577 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Credit: F4WOnline.com

    The current plan is to do six title matches and a CM Punk vs. Kevin Nash singles match at the Night of Champions PPV on September 18th from Buffalo, NY. The full match listing hasn’t been confirmed yet but here’s the likely card:

    World Heavyweight Title Match: Mark Henry vs. Randy Orton

    WWE Title Match: John Cena vs. Alberto Del Rio

    Divas Title Match: Beth Phoenix vs. Kelly Kelly

    Intercontinental Title Match: Ezekiel Jackson vs. Cody Rhodes

    United States Title Match: John Morrison or Alex Riley vs. Dolph Ziggler

    Tag Team Title Match: TBD vs. Kofi Kingston and Evan Bourne

    Kevin Nash vs. CM Punk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Credit: F4WOnline.com

    The current plan is to do six title matches and a CM Punk vs. Kevin Nash singles match at the Night of Champions PPV on September 18th from Buffalo, NY. The full match listing hasn’t been confirmed yet but here’s the likely card:

    World Heavyweight Title Match: Mark Henry vs. Randy Orton

    WWE Title Match: John Cena vs. Alberto Del Rio

    Divas Title Match: Beth Phoenix vs. Kelly Kelly

    Intercontinental Title Match: Ezekiel Jackson vs. Cody Rhodes

    United States Title Match: John Morrison or Alex Riley vs. Dolph Ziggler

    Tag Team Title Match: TBD vs. Kofi Kingston and Evan Bourne

    Kevin Nash vs. CM Punk



    John Morrison v Dolph? How many times have they done that? No thank you!

    But if the alternative is the awful Ale Riley:(:(

    Del Rio v Cena is easily the best thing on that speculative card


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,082 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    I imagine Del Rio is going over Cena and Henry is going over Orton, so it's possible that Punk will have to do the biggest carry job of his career in the main event with Nash to send the crowd home happy.

    That's a lot of faith WWE are putting in him.

    You can be damn sure both Hunter and HBK will be giving him tips on how to get the best out of Nash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭jmolloy


    cena to go down 3 ppv's in a row is quite a lot tho, i see a dq


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,082 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    Should rephrase that. Del Rio will keep the title.

    I fully expect Henry to be champ though. I think Orton works better as someone crazily chasing the title.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,577 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    They wont have Orton drop the belt straight away to Henry , if they are gonna be in a feud he might loose it later on down the line


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    They wont have Orton drop the belt straight away to Henry , if they are gonna be in a feud he might loose it later on down the line

    Expect a bull**** DQ or such like


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    I'd say they'll put off Henry winning the title til Hell in a Cell next month. He loses under unfair circumstances at Night of Champions (Christian interferes, attacks Orton and inadvertantly gets henry DQ'd?), so Henry goes nuts to get his proper match, and to make it worse for Orton it's Hell in a Cell.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Credit: F4WOnline.com

    The current plan is to do six title matches and a CM Punk vs. Kevin Nash singles match at the Night of Champions PPV on September 18th from Buffalo, NY. The full match listing hasn’t been confirmed yet but here’s the likely card:

    World Heavyweight Title Match: Mark Henry vs. Randy Orton

    WWE Title Match: John Cena vs. Alberto Del Rio

    Divas Title Match: Beth Phoenix vs. Kelly Kelly

    Intercontinental Title Match: Ezekiel Jackson vs. Cody Rhodes

    United States Title Match: John Morrison or Alex Riley vs. Dolph Ziggler

    Tag Team Title Match: TBD vs. Kofi Kingston and Evan Bourne

    Kevin Nash vs. CM Punk

    Swagger would make more sense in US title match than JoMo

    I have no interest in seeing Punk v Nash


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    Tag Team Title Match: TBD vs. Kofi Kingston and Evan Bourne

    Has to be Truth and Miz?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    Charisteas wrote: »
    Has to be Truth and Miz?

    another option is a rematch with Perfect Jr & Otunga but you would have to assume that it wouldent be them b'cos the WWE would want R-Truth and Miz on the card. Maybe they could have an elimination tag match or something with all 3 teams and in that way they could hopefully keep the belts on Kofi/Bourne a bit longer i.e have Otunga & Hennig cost The Awesome Truth their elimination furthering the conspiracy angle or something similar to give Kofi/Bourne the win.

    either way Id prefer to see Kofi/Bourne hold the belts for a while and not just be fed to Miz/Truth whom I firmly believe the WWE will get behind moreso than the current champs and will hold the tag belts soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    HHH announced on Raw that he will face CM Punk at NOC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭jmolloy


    the decision to announce punk v hhh indicates to me they saw a awful buyrate for this ppv and are attempting to remedy it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭8k2q1gfcz9s5d4


    jmolloy wrote: »
    the decision to announce punk v hhh indicates to me they saw a awful buyrate for this ppv and are attempting to remedy it

    this match has such a predicteble ending. Ref gets knocked out, punk gets the pin, but no ref to count, tries to wake up the ref, turns around and gets power slammed by Nash. HHH gets the win.

    Next PPV punk V nash, with HHH as referee

    OR
    At night of champions, its HHH v punk with nash as ref


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭SilverFox261


    I'd say they'll put off Henry winning the title til Hell in a Cell next month. He loses under unfair circumstances at Night of Champions (Christian interferes, attacks Orton and inadvertantly gets henry DQ'd?), so Henry goes nuts to get his proper match, and to make it worse for Orton it's Hell in a Cell.

    In recent years they have made Hell in a Cell Orton's match. In most of his recent fueds, particularly when he was heel Orton, he always won the Hell in a Cell match. I can't see them changing the pattern. Much like HHH, HIAC seems to be Ortons guaranteed win match.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭paddyismaddy


    i think it should have had cena v del rio v punk here and have hhh or nash cost punk the match


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,577 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    i think it should have had cena v del rio v punk here and have hhh or nash cost punk the match

    Yea that would have worked . Maybe after Summerslam HHH kept trying to get in contact with Nash over his actions but no word. Then at NOC he costs Punk the belt again


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I think it is too soon for Punk V HHH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭johnnycnandy


    Its definitely way too early for HHH/Punk. I was hoping they'd hold off til Wrestlemania. Interesting to see where this goes. If Nash couldn't wrestle, maybe they should have brought Waltman in. As much as I hate the guy, at least it would have made some sense to have Nash bring his friend in, and not blow the HHH/Punk match already.
    As for Henry/Orton, WWE have put themselves in a position where Henry has to win the title. I expect Orton to retain at NOC, but lose the title at the next PPV. Same with Del Rio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    WWE Title Match
    John Cena vs. Alberto Del Rio

    World Heavyweight Title Match
    Mark Henry vs. Randy Orton

    WWE Tag Team Title Match
    The Miz & R-Truth vs. Kofi Kingston & Evan Bourne

    WWE Divas Title Match
    Beth Phoenix vs. Kelly Kelly

    No DQ Match
    CM Punk vs. Triple H
    If Punk wins, Triple H must resign as COO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Big Daddy Cool


    i think i'm going to predict a Punk win thanks to a Jacknife, and the newwwwww c.o.o will be....... vincent kennedy mcmahon, or maybe not. but a punk win looks good. and henry winning the title just cant happen, now i'm not a fan of orton, but mark henry world champion :eek: after all these years just plodding along, just would'nt be right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    is this on sky sports


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    The idea of Laurinitus becoming COO was discussed on Review-a-Wai's Raw review, and then having Nash, Punk and Laurinitus becoming the new nWo, revelaing they were all working together all along. :p


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Big Daddy Cool


    The idea of Laurinitus becoming COO was discussed on Review-a-Wai's Raw review, and then having Nash, Punk and Laurinitus becoming the new nWo, revelaing they were all working together all along. :p

    just saw that on another website, its a decent idea, Punk setting up his own version of the nWo could be very interesting, not really sure about nash and laurinitus having a part in it though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    The idea of Laurinitus becoming COO was discussed on Review-a-Wai's Raw review, and then having Nash, Punk and Laurinitus becoming the new nWo, revelaing they were all working together all along. :p

    So Punk had Nash jacknife him & cost him the title to fool people into thinking they hated each other, well the Nash/Punk/HHH storyline has sucked so much nothing could make it worse.
    Cena asked earlier is it on Sky Sports yes it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    cena wrote: »
    is this on sky sports

    Yep


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    The idea of Laurinitus becoming COO was discussed on Review-a-Wai's Raw review, and then having Nash, Punk and Laurinitus becoming the new nWo, revelaing they were all working together all along. :p

    So Punk back to being a heel :confused:

    I think Punk will win maybe Nash and John Laurinaitis will interfere

    I hope Henry dont get any or if he does not a long title reign ffs Christian had very short reigns :( I prefer if Sheamus and Christian were added into Orton V Henry match


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    No Disqualification Match
    If Triple H loses, he must step down as COO of WWE
    * Triple H vs. CM Punk

    WWE Championship
    * Alberto Del Rio (c) vs. John Cena

    WWE World Heavyweight Championship
    * Randy Orton (c) vs. Mark Henry

    WWE United States Championship - Fatal Four Way
    * Dolph Ziggler (c) vs. Jack Swagger vs. Alex Riley vs. John Morrison

    WWE Tag Team Championships
    * Kofi Kingston and Evan Bourne (c's) vs. The Miz and R-Truth

    WWE Divas Championship
    * Kelly Kelly (c) vs. Beth Phoenix


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I still think it is too soon for Punk V HHH so my idea would be have HHH mysteriously "taken out" at the start of NOC so his match with Punk dont happen and maybe have Punk face someone else like Wade or Matista or even just cut a promo in the ring


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I still think it is too soon for Punk V HHH so my idea would be have HHH mysteriously "taken out" at the start of NOC so his match with Punk dont happen and maybe have Punk face someone else like Wade or Matista or even just cut a promo in the ring

    Bob Holly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭Africa


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    I still think it is too soon for Punk V HHH so my idea would be have HHH mysteriously "taken out" at the start of NOC so his match with Punk dont happen and maybe have Punk face someone else like Wade or Matista or even just cut a promo in the ring

    Whilte it may be too soon, I dont see them doing something like making him face just another wrestler. Would have to be part of the story, so most likely Nash.

    Even so, I just foresee a screw job for Punk.

    Setting him up for him to be Austin mk II, im against the boss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,082 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    They need to keep Punk as a face and the only way to do that is turn Hunter heel.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    I hope Punk and HHH get to put on a top class match. A part of me wants a non finish that sees Punk and HHH getting equally screwed by some body. Maybe Lauraintis and Nash backed up by Miz and Truth.

    I am not that convinced by a vince v stone cold 2.0 with HHH as vince. HHH is well respected and many people will get it hard to boo him. I really think laurainitis could be taking on the Vince roll as WWE fans have no reason to like him and could hate him if prompted too.

    It think it would be cool to see HHH and Punk teaming up for a while eventually leading to a one on one match at mania.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Part of me wants Punk to turn heel and team with Miz & Truth. The three are running the same gimmick at the moment anyway and would make for a believable "Anti-establishment" gimmick, even if it would be hard to keep them heel long term...


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Face Pink is needed more than Heel Punk.

    Turn him heel now and we are back with Orton and Cena with no other face wrestlers that have peoples attention.

    Punk already had Cena and Orton feuds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    Final Card:

    No Disqualification Match
    If Triple H loses, he must step down as COO of WWE
    * Triple H vs. CM Punk

    WWE Championship
    * Alberto Del Rio (c) vs. John Cena

    WWE World Heavyweight Championship
    * Randy Orton (c) vs. Mark Henry

    WWE Intercontinental Championship
    * Cody Rhodes (c) vs. Ted DiBiase

    WWE United States Championship - Fatal Four Way
    * Dolph Ziggler (c) vs. Jack Swagger vs. Alex Riley vs. John Morrison

    WWE Tag Team Championships
    * Kofi Kingston and Evan Bourne (c's) vs. The Miz and R-Truth

    WWE Divas Championship
    * Kelly Kelly (c) vs. Beth Phoenix


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Um, anyone order this with Sky yet?

    Rang up and the girl told me that it wasn't part of the sky package. :O Told me to ring the third party who was showing it. What's up with that?

    EDIT: Oh, it's not PPV. Awesome. But why were they telling me to ring a third party? :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    probably assumed it was the Mayweather fight that was on Primetime last night


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