At what point does the speed limit for a coach change from 100km/h to 80km/h

reggaeman

When driving bus on duelcarragway' at what point do you go from 100km to 80km. As you know when coming off the carrageway on to the single road its 80km. but what about that single bit before you get to the main single road!

highlydebased

reggaeman wrote: »

When driving bus on duelcarragway' at what point do you go from 100km to 80km. As you know when coming off the carrageway on to the single road its 80km. but what about that single bit before you get to the main single road!

I'm unsure what you want to know.

Depends what the bus is limited to- many are limited to 80km/h as it is. You would also drive within the speed limit...

Shifty

Speed Limit Changes
Please be advised
With effect from 1st February 2009 new regulations came into force that
have changed the maximum speed limits for Buses and Coaches when they
are travelling on a Motorway or Dual-carriageway.

The main points to be aware of are;

1. Single-Deck & Double-Deck Buses travelling on a Motorway or Dual-carriageway can now travel at a maximum speed of: 100 km/h

2. Where a Bus or Coach is travelling on a normal road
(not Motorway or Dual-carriageway) the maximum permitted speed they can travel at remains: 80 km/h

3 As before, where the vehicle is designed or adapted to carry standing passengers ) the maximum permitted speed they can travel on any road remains: 65 km/h


http://theorytest.ie/english/CPC-speed-limit-changes-Feb09.pdf

foggy_lad

reggaeman wrote: »

When driving bus on duelcarragway' at what point do you go from 100km to 80km. As you know when coming off the carrageway on to the single road its 80km. but what about that single bit before you get to the main single road!

When you are pulling off a motorway or dual carriageway on the slip road there are usually signs indicating the change of speed limit from 100kph(for coaches) to 80kph. If there are no signs i would be slowing down while on the slip road so as to be within the new limit on the N road

reggaeman

highlydebased wrote: »

I'm unsure what you want to know.

Depends what the bus is limited to- many are limited to 80km/h as it is. You would also drive within the speed limit...

well this may not apply to all carrageways' but when your coming off a carrageway you first come into a single lane like a filter getting you ready for single lane traffic. Does the 100km apply until you reach single lane traffic' and then reduce it to 80km.

reggaeman

foggy_lad wrote: »

When you are pulling off a motorway or dual carriageway on the slip road there are usually signs indicating the change of speed limit from 100kph(for coaches) to 80kph. If there are no signs i would be slowing down while on the slip road so as to be within the new limit on the N road

I was talking about end of carrageway. And my understanding was that while on the single filter lane your ok doing 100kph till you reach the n road and then its 80kph. Would that be right.

foggy_lad

reggaeman wrote: »

well this may not apply to all carrageways' but when your coming off a carrageway you first come into a single lane like a filter getting you ready for single lane traffic. Does the 100km apply until you reach single lane traffic' and then reduce it to 80km.

Filter lanes on Dual carriageways are different to Slip roads on motorways.

reggaeman

foggy_lad wrote: »

Filter lanes on Dual carriageways are different to Slip roads on motorways.

Yes but I cant find any information on the question I asked. what is the rule when you come into this filter lane. Is it 100kph or 80kph. Cant even find it on the rsa site.

foggy_lad

reggaeman wrote: »

Yes but I cant find any information on the question I asked. what is the rule when you come into this filter lane. Is it 100kph or 80kph. Cant even find it on the rsa site.

You can continue at a safe speed up to the speed limit until you come to a new speed limit sign, so if you are on the Naas road and the limit is 100kph you must continue to follow this speed limit if you turn onto the M7/M9 until you see a sign stating the higher limit of 120kph even though you are on a motorway.

You follow the limit set by the last speed limit sign you have passed.

reggaeman

foggy_lad wrote: »

You can continue at a safe speed up to the speed limit until you come to a new speed limit sign, so if you are on the Naas road and the limit is 100kph you must continue to follow this speed limit if you turn onto the M7/M9 until you see a sign stating the higher limit of 120kph even though you are on a motorway.

You follow the limit set by the last speed limit sign you have passed.

Thanks Foggy Lad.
As you will see from the start of my Posts this whole thing is about driving a bus. If I am on the duel carrageway I can do 100kph. But as I come into the filter lane its a single carrageway before I get to the n road. But I had this fella tell me that once you come into a single lane you must reduce your speed to 80kph. The reason why I want to know all this is because of a camara van. There is no sign going to tell me I should do 80kph. So you see I am not clear on this. (I dont know yet if the van got me' although I felt I was right)

foggy_lad

reggaeman wrote: »

Thanks Foggy Lad.
As you will see from the start of my Posts this whole thing is about driving a bus. If I am on the duel carrageway I can do 100kph. But as I come into the filter lane its a single carrageway before I get to the n road. But I had this fella tell me that once you come into a single lane you must reduce your speed to 80kph. The reason why I want to know all this is because of a camara van. There is no sign going to tell me I should do 80kph. So you see I am not clear on this. (I dont know yet if the van got me' although I felt I was right)

Coaches only and not Busses, and only those with no designed standing spaces are allowed use the higher speed limit and then only on dual carriageways seperated with a permenant central divide/barrier and on motorways. the limit covers you on all parts of the carriageway including slip roads afaik as long as the slip roads are not covered by a lower speed limit which you would see signs for and be obliged to heed.

reggaeman

foggy_lad wrote: »

Coaches only and not Busses, and only those with no designed standing spaces are allowed use the higher speed limit and then only on dual carriageways seperated with a permenant central divide/barrier and on motorways. the limit covers you on all parts of the carriageway including slip roads afaik as long as the slip roads are not covered by a lower speed limit which you would see signs for and be obliged to heed.

Many thanks Foggy Lad. I do drive a coach and that clears it for me.

Victor

It ultimately depands on whether the fliter lane or slip road is one-way or two-way.

This the is the Pouladuff Road Interchange on the South Ring Road in Cork.

http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=snc931g8spc5&lvl=18.160545312293007&dir=4.766620644347149&sty=b&form=LMLTCC

The sliproads on the eastbound carriageway (north of the dual carriageway) are one-way so a coach can do 100km/h until the speed limit drops under 100km/h.

The sliproads on the westbound carriageway (south of the dual carriageway) are one-way, but then merge and become two-way (at the entrance to Togher Industrial Estate), so a coach can do 100km/h until the speed limit drops under 100km/h or the slip roads merge.

Strictly speaking the phrase "dual carriageway" is poor as that section of road has 4 cariageways.

flazio

To be fair, on a slip road you should be in the process of slowing down, ready to stop if necessary for either a roundabout or a T junction which would evidently be ahead, in fact on some exits you would have to slow down significally to take the turn off (Moneygall exit of M7 for example.) Regardless of actual 'legal limit' anyone still doing 100km/h after say the Y point of the turn off is near suicidal.

Victor

flazio wrote: »

To be fair, on a slip road you should be in the process of slowing down, ready to stop if necessary for either a roundabout or a T junction which would evidently be ahead, in fact on some exits you would have to slow down significally to take the turn off (Moneygall exit of M7 for example.) Regardless of actual 'legal limit' anyone still doing 100km/h after say the Y point of the turn off is near suicidal.

It really depands: http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=svv79ygf3j8z&lvl=16&dir=0&sty=o&form=LMLTCC

http://maps.google.ie/maps?q=naas&hl=en&ll=53.167948,-6.754446&spn=0.014844,0.045447&sll=53.401034,-8.307638&sspn=7.562971,23.269043&vpsrc=6&t=k&z=15

flazio

Victor wrote: »

It really depands: http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=svv79ygf3j8z&lvl=16&dir=0&sty=o&form=LMLTCC

http://maps.google.ie/maps?q=naas&hl=en&ll=53.167948,-6.754446&spn=0.014844,0.045447&sll=53.401034,-8.307638&sspn=7.562971,23.269043&vpsrc=6&t=k&z=15

That's a motorway merge, not a turn off.

reggaeman

Well Iv'e had no luck with the answer. So this is what I belive. (and I'm not talking about any slip road or merge) and I'm talking about the end of the duel carragway,

A coach CAN go right to the end of the carrage way (provided it has a 100kph limit) at 100kph till it reaches the N road. And then it must be doing 80kph.

Many thanks lads for your help. Safe driving.:D