Vibroplates... fact or hearsay?

nice_guy80

I've heard women at work talking about using vibroplates at home
and they swear by them (one of them uses theirs while watching tv..)

anyway, do they actually provide a cardio workout??? or is it pure hearsay and that they are losing weight because they are watching what they eat??

just interested
cheers

Hanley

It all depends on how it's prgrammed.

But for 99% of people, no, yes and yes, to your questions.

craftypaddy

i recently got a vibro plate from cash converters and it was useless the motor just wasnt powerfull enough, so i took that one back and hired the most powerfull one that was available 1000 w motor, its normally used in gyms ect, after six weeks my legs and rear were alot more toned and even my husband used it, its not just a matter of standing there doing nothing there is a routine you can do while on it and hold various positions to work off different areas.
i would give it a thumbs up for hire it works out cheaper, mine was 100 for six weeks, compared to going to a tanning shop or gym its cheaper, i have a rowing machine coming next week which should be interesting, meant to be great for all round weight loss and toning

Owen_S

Am I the only person who doesn't see how the concept of standing on something vibrating results in you using more energy?

Wollwead

man Irish people are so bloody stupid when it comes to exercise. I so have to hold myself from giving people abuse when they criticize my training methods. "That's a bit hardcore for me" or "you don't wanna get too bulky", i have to laugh really otherwise i'll explode. People just need to stop and think about it simply.

craftypaddy

Owen_S wrote: »

Am I the only person who doesn't see how the concept of standing on something vibrating results in you using more energy?

i wouldnt say it uses more energy, but after a four mle walk it good for stimulating your muscles after, even some personal trainers i know use the plates after a workout

mightyreds

i have seen the benefits of them first hand, i know a girl who was just too heavy to walk so she rented a vibroplate and used it for a month to build up to walking and is now down 6 stone and well on the way to getting the weight fully down,i used one myself i found it very good but just not on its own you really need to be doing the normal exercise routine with it to really stay fit and healthy and i believe craftypaddy they would tone up the muscles in your legs and bum.

Owen_S

mightyreds wrote: »

i have seen the benefits of them first hand, i know a girl who was just too heavy to walk so she rented a vibroplate and used it for a month to build up to walking and is now down 6 stone and well on the way to getting the weight fully down,i used one myself i found it very good but just not on its own you really need to be doing the normal exercise routine with it to really stay fit and healthy and i believe craftypaddy they would tone up the muscles in your legs and bum.

Your post lost it's credibility when you said 'tone up'

Ouchette

So people who get a vibroplate start to do exercises and lose weight/gain muscle? Now call me a cynic, but couldn't that be because of the exercise rather than because of the vibrating?

Can see how it could aid recovery though, which might allow you to do more.

d'Oracle

Wollwead wrote: »

man Irish people are so bloody stupid when it comes to exercise. I so have to hold myself from giving people abuse when they criticize my training methods. "That's a bit hardcore for me" or "you don't wanna get too bulky", i have to laugh really otherwise i'll explode. People just need to stop and think about it simply.

None of this is even remotely specific to Irish people.

seamus

mightyreds wrote: »

i used one myself i found it very good but just not on its own you really need to be doing the normal exercise routine with it to really stay fit and healthy

If it doesn't work on its own, how do you know it works at all?

What happens is that someone decides they need to lose weight, resolves to do 3 good walks every week, eat properly and go do 3 vibroplate sessions per week. Pretty soon they see results. So they tell their mates, who do the same, and see results.
But then some people start thinking that they can go do vibroplate 6 times a week - they don't have time to go for a walk. They'll see results too, because they're still eating properly, and the vibroplate myth gathers momentum.

It's correlation, not causation. Those people who have taken the time and energy to go do vibroplate sessions have likely also taken the time to start eating properly and exercising more.

In reality, it's just another spin on the vibrating belt machine which was so popular in the 50's and 60's;

These contraptions never caused anyone to lose weight, though they give great massages - which is what they're now marketed as. Though a lot of people also suffered serious injuries; your midriff is not designed to vibrated like that. Hernias and muscular injuries were common, but some people also suffered serious spinal damage and others internal haemorraghing or organ damage.
The vibroplate would have less risk, though I can't see it being beneficial to your ankle, knee or hips.

These things are all just products of (or abusers of) a poor understanding in how the body works. Clearly the idea was that when the body moves more, you lose weight. So if you vibrate it, it must cause weight to be lost. What they missed (deliberately or otherwise) is that unless you're actually putting in effort, your body is not burning anything, so weight can't be lost. On the vibroplate, your body is probably doing something to try and stabilise you, but unless you come off the thing feeling like you've done a significant workout, then sorry but you aren't burning many extra calories.

I'm sure some atheletes do use these - there may very well be recovery benefit in the vibrating action, which allows you to train harder.

With our much improved understanding of nutrition and energy in these times, surely it should be possible to outlaw any devices which claim to burn fat or "tone muscles" if they don't have the scientific data to back it up?

Thud

I remember seeing something years ago about how NASA put chickens on these to test if it improved bone density (supposedly you lose bone density in space), i think it worked...........nothing to do with muscle/fat loss/"toning" though

Hanley

Thud wrote: »

I remember seeing something years ago about how NASA put chickens on these to test if it improved bone density (supposedly you lose bone density in space), i think it worked...........nothing to do with muscle/fat loss/"toning" though

....or humans

Thud

here you go:
http://science1.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast02nov_1/

Ireland is all set to send a load of astronauts into space

Wollwead

d'Oracle wrote: »

None of this is even remotely specific to Irish people.

Is that a question?

Well to explain the statement I made a bit better, i've heard people (yes Irish people!) talking about these Vibroplate things before on facebook and what not as if it's the new and improved way of getting in to great shape.

The above fact was the basis of my statement.

Owen_S

Well there we have it, worth getting one if you have a chicken suffering from osteoporosis

howtomake

I'm a bit curious, as to exactly how much is too much on these things. There are occupations where people are exposed to vibrations of about 6hz and report of constant back pain, etc. Now I understand that the exposure is over a prolonged period of time, but these machines are running around 25hz. But I'm sure I must be missing something here with my understanding. Do they oscillate differently or something

I've been on one a few times after grueling runs a couple of years ago and I can say that it actually felt pretty good afterwards. Never tried any actual workouts on it though.

Mellor

craftypaddy wrote: »

i wouldnt say it uses more energy, but after a four mle walk it good for stimulating your muscles after, even some personal trainers i know use the plates after a workout

If its not using energy then it isn't beneficial

mightyreds wrote:

i have seen the benefits of them first hand, i know a girl who was just too heavy to walk so she rented a vibroplate and used it for a month to build up to walking and is now down 6 stone and well on the way to getting the weight fully down,i used one myself i found it very good but just not on its own you really need to be doing the normal exercise routine with it to really stay fit and healthy and i believe craftypaddy they would tone up the muscles in your legs and bum.

If she was too overweight to walk, and eventually lost 6 stone, I think its fair to assume that she had lots of weight to lose.
She couldn't of done this weight out a proper calorie deficit and I can guarantee she would of still lost weight had she say on the couch and ate a good diet.

How did you find it good?
How would if tone up your legs and bum, that doesn't even mean anything

Wollwead wrote: »

Is that a question?

Well to explain the statement I made a bit better, i've heard people (yes Irish people!) talking about these Vibroplate things before on facebook and what not as if it's the new and improved way of getting in to great shape.

The above fact was the basis of my statement.

I'm sure you have, but you're missing the point. d'Oracle said it wasn't specific to irish people, it's not. People all over the world are naive and mis-informed. These things thrive because people are lazy and want a quick fix.

Animord

Owen_S wrote: »

Well there we have it, worth getting one if you have a chicken suffering from osteoporosis

Or you could eat the chicken and put the money you saved not purchasing the daft thing towards some nice fresh fruit and vegetables and lose weight that way!

nice_guy80

So I can go into work next week and confidently tell all the women that using vibroplates is bollóx and they are all wasting their money? sweet

tbh anything you can do in front of the telly isn't real exercise