Torchwood Miracle Day: Episode 7 *spoilers*

Stark

Going to come across as a "best of a bad lot" kind of review but I think this was was the first episode in the entire series that felt like "Torchwood". There's also a link to an enemy from "The Sarah Jane Adventures" who may be behind "the Miracle" and a few Doctor references thrown in there as well. The character moments between Gwen and Jack alone probably make the episode worth watching. In fact, it's all pretty much gravy until Rex and Blondie show up at the end to remind us that we're watching a bland American reinvention of Torchwood. I'm just hoping the series continues with more of the former and less of the latter.

Gambler

Yeah, I have to say that this was the most enjoyable episode so far until they went with the get out of jail free card at the end.. How were Esther and Rex able to organise a strike team in the UK and even if they were able to organise it how exactly did they locate the family?!?

Ignoring the end though this was definitely an improvement - maybe they've lowered my expectations enough that anything is starting to look good but I find myself slightly more interested in seeing what happens next..

mawk

pretty good episode.

the bit with the mob was pretty nasty. wasnt too sure about angelo stabbing him up, giving him to the mob and then changing his mind and rescuing jack.

Richard Dower

It picked up when the Italian mob kept killing Jack again and again....very disturbing, while i 100% *get* the exposition of the whole backstory with yer man and Jack it was a bit dragged out. Is Jack's blood then being used as the Miracle?...or, in order for yer man and Jack to be together he needed to make Jack mortal.

It was a good episode though, the scenes with Gwen and jack in the car were great.

pixelburp

What were the Doctor / Sarah Jane references? I've stopped watching the show, but would be curious if they've finally made some link-ups with the parent series

The Left Hand Of God

I have got the whole "GAY" message. Seriously, could he not have found another street corner to shout his thoughts from?

I'm only half way though btw

vibe666

The Left Hand Of God wrote: »

I have got the whole "GAY" message. Seriously, could he not have found another street corner to shout his thoughts from?

I'm only half way though btw

you mean he's gay? :eek:

Penn

vibe666 wrote: »

you mean he's gay? :eek:

Who? Rex? Didn't he sleep with the woman doctor who died a few episodes ago?

Stark

vibe666 wrote: »

you mean he's gay? :eek:

Nah, Jack only slept with that bartender because he was suddenly mortal. That's what mortal guys do.

Though when he slept with that Angelo guy he was im-, holy crap he's gay.

vibe666

Stark wrote: »

Nah, Jack only slept with that bartender because he was suddenly mortal. That's what mortal guys do.

Though when he slept with that Angelo guy he was im-, holy crap he's gay.

i always assumed he was just really friendly?

does that mean that when my friend mike kisses me like that he's actually being gay too?

Sonics2k

Jack's bi, it's been said a few times in the past. Moreso on in his introduction episodes of Dr Who.

Have to say I wasn't to impressed with episode 7. Far to much time spent on the flash back and pretty dull romance story between Jack and Angelo, and the end of the episode was completely obvious from the start.

It really did seem like a bit of filler episode.

Angelo was obviously going to have some impact on the end of the episode, as well as Gwen not having to turn Jack over.

iguana

Gambler wrote: »

How were Esther and Rex able to organise a strike team in the UK and even if they were able to organise it how exactly did they locate the family?!?

I assume they organised it through Andy. Rex met him in the first episode and presumably at some point in the planning of her Wales trip she told Rex and Esther everything they needed to know about him and during the Wales trip she brought Andy up to speed. And Rhys, Annwyn and Mrs Cooper were being held at the Cooper house, so they were literally in the first place Andy would look for them.

Mahatma coat

what as the Sarah Jane reference???

That was a fairly decent episode but it was a bit predictable, and its good to see that I'm not the only one who finds the Gayness a bit much. someone should take RTD aside and say 'We get it you're Gay, you want to be edgey and bring gayness out into the open, but dont use it to fill ten minutes of an Episode whenever you have writers block'.

Sometimes gay love scenes can be used to move a story on or expand a character but this just seemed like RTD wanted to labour a point at the expense of moving the plot along

Stark

Mahatma coat wrote: »

what as the Sarah Jane reference???

The Trickster Brigade featured heavily in Sarah Jane. (They also featured in DW "Turn Left").

iguana

Mahatma coat wrote: »

what as the Sarah Jane reference???

That was a fairly decent episode but it was a bit predictable, and its good to see that I'm not the only one who finds the Gayness a bit much. someone should take RTD aside and say 'We get it you're Gay, you want to be edgey and bring gayness out into the open, but dont use it to fill ten minutes of an Episode whenever you have writers block'.

Sometimes gay love scenes can be used to move a story on or expand a character but this just seemed like RTD wanted to labour a point at the expense of moving the plot along

Jane Espenson wrote the episode not RTD. He was only the main writer on the first, second and last episodes of this series. Yes he wrote the overall arc, but the minutiae of each episode are written by other writers.

As executive producer on this series he has fallen down badly repeatedly, Miracle Day is not very good. And the problem seems to be a lack of cohesion between the American and British elements of the show. Apart from this episode it could be any generic American sci-fi show with random bits of Torchwood squeezed it. As EP it's his responsibility to bring all the strands together and he's just not doing it. I suspect it might be because he's too much of a fan boy to people like Espenson and Shiban and that there was too much mutual appreciation going on when people should have been saying "it's not good enough yet." But criticising him for pushing a "gay agenda" in scenes that he didn't even write is kind of odd.

As an aside I found Nana Visitor's face extremely disturbing. She's had so much surgery she looks like a cartoon.

Sonics2k

Mahatma coat wrote: »

what as the Sarah Jane reference???

That was a fairly decent episode but it was a bit predictable, and its good to see that I'm not the only one who finds the Gayness a bit much. someone should take RTD aside and say 'We get it you're Gay, you want to be edgey and bring gayness out into the open, but dont use it to fill ten minutes of an Episode whenever you have writers block'.

Sometimes gay love scenes can be used to move a story on or expand a character but this just seemed like RTD wanted to labour a point at the expense of moving the plot along

Sexuality aside. It was more the stupid amount of time spent on a romance that was annoying. Frankly to much time spent on romance makes any show pretty freaking dull.
It felt like they could of achieved a lot more with episode 7 by cutting a lot of those scenes out, and focusing more on the main story line.

Yes we get it, Jack's former lover has something to do with the Miracle Day, let's move on please!

Mahatma coat

Well Yeah, that was the point I was trying to make, It just seemed to Drag on and on and on.

That was Nana Visitor at the end? the bird from DS9, Jaysus she has had a lot of Cosmetic surgery, I didnt recognise her :eek:

amen

That was Nana Visitor at the end

yikes! Age has not been kind

BaconZombie

Edit: This is about ep 01x08 not 01x07....