Seb Coe - Who do you think you are

Woddle

Wednesday 24th, BBC1 at 9pm.
Looks a good one.

Woddle

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kennyb3

Had to watch JK Rolling last week or the week before. Payback time!

woodchopper

He is Britains finest sportsman, that is who he is.

Although Steve Redgrave may have something to say about this.

downthemiddle

woodchopper wrote: »

He is Britains finest sportsman, that is who he is.

Although Steve Redgrave may have something to say about this.

I always preferred Ovett.

Tangle2

It is quite remarkable that 30 years on Coe with 1.41.73 is still the third fastest man ever over 800m. The WR has advanced just 0.72 seconds in that time. Truly he was ahead of his time and was coached to perfection by his father Peter. His comeback in Moscow after defeat in the 800m to claim a glorious victory in the metric mile is one of the gretest Olympic moments. He is still the only man to win two Olympic 1500m titles and his 4 world records in 41 days were an incredible display of front running brilliance.

I hope this programme relives those magical moments and doesn't just focus on Coe the politician and the Olympic bid and preparation.

Incidently it is 14 years exactly since Wilson Kipketer set his last 800m World Record.

YFlyer

Wonder would he have handled the pace from 500 m out from the likes of Morceli and El Guerrouj if he was around at the same time?

Tangle2

YFlyer wrote: »

Wonder would he have handled the pace from 500 m out from the likes of Morceli and El Guerrouj if he was around at the same time?

Comparing stars of a different era is always one for debate but can never be conclusively answered. How would Jack O'Shea have compared with Daragh O'Shea over the past ten years. Was Eddie Keher as good as King Henry? Pele V Maradona. We'll never know but do we really need to? All of these athletes had incredibly successful careers and at one point or another each was the greatest miler on the planet.

YFlyer

He had a much faster finishing kick then the others.

His attempt at Aouita 1500m WR in Rieti 1986 showed that he could have been much faster in the early 1980s.

Tangle2

YFlyer wrote: »

He had a much faster finishing kick then the others.

His attempt at Aouita 1500m WR in Rieti 1986 showed that he could have been much faster in the early 1980s.

Yes he had a super kick. His 800m speed was a huge advantage in that regard. One of my favourite races was the 800m in Stuttgart in 86 when he outkicked Tom McKean and Steve Cram to finally take a much coveted major title at 800m. Hard to believe thats 25 years ago now!! I'm showing my midde age!!

Pisco Sour

One of the all time greats of the sport. I always wonder how much faster he would go if he was around now, in this day and age, with better equipment, tracks, training techniques and knowledge etc.

Have to say I have lost a bit of time for him though with this 2012 ticketing nonsense.

TheRoadRunner

04072511 wrote: »

Have to say I have lost a bit of time for him though with this 2012 ticketing nonsense.

Yes he is single handedly responsible for you not getting a ticket. Get a grip.

robinph

I was half expecting his long lost cousin Usain Bolt to make an appearance at some point during the program.

G-Money

I'm guessing it wasn't the point of the programme, but I would have prefered 1 hour about his athletics career and achievements.

robinph

G-Money wrote: »

I'm guessing it wasn't the point of the programme, but I would have prefered 1 hour about his athletics career and achievements.

It was pretty standard format for the show, they are basically never actually about the person themselves.

I seem to recall the Colin Jackson one ending up being more about him and I didn't like his style in his episode at all. That was a good few years ago now though.

gerard65

04072511 wrote: »

One of the all time greats of the sport. I always wonder how much faster he would go if he was around now, in this day and age, with better equipment, tracks, training techniques and knowledge etc.

Not too sure if he would have been much faster. Peter Coe was ahead of his time in coaching and this techniques are still been used. Have tracks changed that much? We did have good tracks in the 80's, don't think their that much better today. We may know a little more of the science now but over middle-distance its not that great.

robinph

The tracks are built for sprinters to go faster though aren't they? Not the ideal surfaces for doing middle-long distance events on. Still better than tarmac, but not the best they could make.

Brianderunner

robinph wrote: »

The tracks are built for sprinters to go faster though aren't they? Not the ideal surfaces for doing middle-long distance events on. Still better than tarmac, but not the best they could make.

That depends. A firmer track is faster for sprinters and a softer track is better for distance. These days stadia are building firm tracks for faster sprint times beacuse they're the most glamourous events.

shels4ever

Brianderunner wrote: »

That depends. A firmer track is faster for sprinters and a softer track is better for distance. These days stadia are building firm tracks for faster sprint times beacuse they're the most glamourous events.

sure they only need fast lanes from 3/4/5 . 1 and 2 can be for the distance lads ...

lane draw would fun then for the sprinters

Pisco Sour

TheRoadRunner wrote: »

Yes he is single handedly responsible for you not getting a ticket. Get a grip.

He's the head of the organising committee so he takes responsibility in my eyes, just as he would take the praise if things go well, and he has said to the public that this would be a games for the people, and then against what he said gives half the tickets to big events to corporates. I'm fully entitled to my opinion. No need for the "get a grip" stuff.

TheRoadRunner

04072511 wrote: »

He's the head of the organising committee so he takes responsibility in my eyes, just as he would take the praise if things go well, and he has said to the public that this would be a games for the people, and then against what he said gives half the tickets to big events to corporates. I'm fully entitled to my opinion. No need for the "get a grip" stuff.

Get a grip, that's capitalism my friend. Corporates pay big money and expect these things.

Pisco Sour

TheRoadRunner wrote: »

Get a grip, that's capitalism my friend. Corporates pay big money and expect these things.

The UK taxpayers have paid significantly more money towards the games than the corporates. A LOT more, yet are getting less tickets to big events than corporates. I do not like the way this man has betrayed the UK public and I am not the only one who thinks this. Far from it.

As an athlete I have great admiration for him.

robinph

I'd take a ticket for almost any event now.

woodchopper

TheRoadRunner wrote: »

Get a grip, that's capitalism my friend. Corporates pay big money and expect these things.

Nothing annoys me more than when I see fat rich men in suits make fun of the lean East Africans coming up with conclusions as to why they are so fast. Things like they must run to get their dinner blah, blah blah. Maybe I should bring these corporates over to Iten next time I am over there with Renato Cavona and see how real people go about their business.

gerard65

woodchopper wrote: »

Nothing annoys me more than when I see fat rich men in suits make fun of the lean East Africans coming up with conclusions as to why they are so fast. Things like they must run to get their dinner blah, blah blah. Maybe I should bring these corporates over to Iten next time I am over there with Renato Cavona and see how real people go about their business.

Your continuing name dropping is getting very boring:(. I was just talking to Geb about this the other night:pac:

dna_leri

woodchopper wrote: »

Nothing annoys me more than when I see fat rich men in suits make fun of the lean East Africans coming up with conclusions as to why they are so fast. Things like they must run to get their dinner blah, blah blah. Maybe I should bring these corporates over to Iten next time I am over there with Renato Cavona and see how real people go about their business.

Rene as I always call him was just telling me last week how he hates the way you keep getting his name wrong.
As he says himself its nova as in supernova.

woodchopper

dna_leri wrote: »

Rene as I always call him was just telling me last week how he hates the way you keep getting his name wrong.
As he says himself its nova as in supernova.

The spelling police are on again. Anyway best of luck in the Warriors run, I guess your aim is to finish the race rather than compete.

woodchopper

gerard65 wrote: »

Your continuing name dropping is getting very boring:(. I was just talking to Geb about this the other night:pac:

Off topic, please get back to the root of the thread.

PS your telephone bills must be high given that Geb is in East Africa at the moment.

Regards
Woodchopper