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Paedophiles - do you sympathise with them?

  • 10-08-2011 6:26pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭


    obviously what they do is pretty low brow and whatnot, but surely it's just a sexual orientation like any other? whilst we feel sorry for their victims, surely we must also feel sympathy for they themselves who live in a society that deems their sexual preferences to be deviant.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    Animals cant control their sexual desires,humans can.

    Pedophiles are animals,end of story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭Snacker


    obviously what they do is pretty low brow and whatnot, but surely it's just a sexual orientation like any other? whilst we feel sorry for their victims, surely we must also feel sympathy for they themselves who live in a society that deems their sexual preferences to be deviant.

    GTFO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea_old


    i just kinda feel sorry that they're turned on by kids, NOT that society deems it unacceptable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭viota


    They are disgusting individuals.They do disgusting things to children who are innocent.They should be ashamed of themselves and should be locked up for life.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I feel sorry for them, I'm sure they don't want to feel how they do. But I stop feeling sorry for them if/when they decide to act on their urges.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Depends, a peadophile is simply someone attracted to children, something which can't be helped, I would feel sorry for those who feel the attraction but don't act. I would not feel sorry for one who does act.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    No


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    an interesting topic.

    I imagine that if you asked this question 30-50 Years ago about Homosexuals much of the same argument would be rehashed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Animals cant control their sexual desires,humans can.

    Pedophiles are animals,end of story.
    You don't have to abuse children to be a pedophile, pedophilia is just a sexual attraction to pre-pubescent children.

    I'm sure there are countless more pedophiles out there who've never touched a child in that way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭AgileMyth


    Those who act on their urges deserve no sympathy.
    There must be some out there who are that way inclined but would never act on it though and thats pretty shit for them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    obviously what they do is pretty low brow and whatnot, but surely it's just a sexual orientation like any other? whilst we feel sorry for their victims, surely we must also feel sympathy for they themselves who live in a society that deems their sexual preferences to be deviant.

    jaysus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 lol_mark_aments


    is there anything you want to own up to? looking for a debate out of this is sheer and utter nonsense. You seem to put society as the bad guys in a scenario like this, talk to a victim of this crime and tell me you should sympathise with the paedophiles.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭Norma_Desmond


    How could somebody feel sorry for an adult that takes advantage of a helpless child?
    They are sick, sick people and they should be put on an island far away never to return to cause pain to a child or family again!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭cosmicfart


    Some of these types of people are redeemable other are just fookin priests


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭Snacker


    This is a b******t thread def pulling the piss/looking for attention these are always popping up lately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    an interesting topic.

    I imagine that if you asked this question 30-50 Years ago about Homosexuals much of the same argument would be rehashed.

    So we are going to have peodo rights parades in 30 years time?

    They are fúcking animals and should be castrated and locked up for life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    but surely it's just a sexual orientation like any other?

    sorry, but no. what two consenting adults do together is one thing, when one adult abuses a child it's another.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    So we are going to have peodo rights parades in 30 years time?

    They are fúcking animals and should be castrated and locked up for life.
    You think some who is sexually attracted to children but has never acted on it should go to prison?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Tayla


    It is 100% not a sexual orientation .........very in depth recent thread here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056249576


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    Wasn't this thread posted before?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Tayla wrote: »
    It is 100% not a sexual orientation .........very in depth recent thread here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056249576
    Care to summarize? How is it not a sexual orientation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭Oscar the grouch


    obviously what they do is pretty low brow and whatnot, but surely it's just a sexual orientation like any other? whilst we feel sorry for their victims, surely we must also feel sympathy for they themselves who live in a society that deems their sexual preferences to be deviant.



    NO...NO...NO....NO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    TML91 wrote: »
    Wasn't this thread posted before?
    It's AH, most things were.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Will somebody please think of the children paeodophiles


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭bowsie010


    You can spot the alter boys a mile off in this thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 413 ✭✭The Left Hand Of God


    I don't really care what peoples sexual orientations are.

    I don't have time for anyone who is capable of rape or murder for their sexual pleasure or some gratification of whatever nature. Even the use of porn materials that might have involved either of the above.

    No point in worrying about people who are not actually doing "anything"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭Hangballlouie


    Is the OP a spokesperson for NAMBLA?


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsB6ppFf94k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Ronin247


    an interesting topic.

    I imagine that if you asked this question 30-50 Years ago about Homosexuals much of the same argument would be rehashed.

    Not valid to compare the two.Homosexuals are consenting adults,Paedophiles are just scum and should be branded on the forehead so we can all see them in the open.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    wiki states it as an psychiatric disorder,but the offenders are not always dirty old men,there have been cases where the offenders where teens.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    A paedophile isn't necessarily someone who rapes kids - paedophilia just means they're turned on by kids. They can't help it. They don't have to act on those urges and I'm sure there's more people than you'd think out there who feel this way. It's just we only ever hear about the abusers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭GASMANN


    an interesting topic.

    I imagine that if you asked this question 30-50 Years ago about Homosexuals much of the same argument would be rehashed.

    paedophiles are rapists . homosexuals in consenting relationships are not.
    get a grip of yourself.


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Snacker wrote: »
    This is a b******t thread def pulling the piss/looking for attention these are always popping up lately

    Couldnt agree more with you. Feels like we are being data-mined here a lot lately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭marcsignal


    obviously what they do is pretty low brow and whatnot, but surely it's just a sexual orientation like any other?

    I disagree, it is not a sexual orientation, they are seriously ill, and although their illness is not contagious, they should be Quarantined for the good of the community.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    So we are going to have peodo rights parades in 30 years time?

    They are fúcking animals and should be castrated and locked up for life.

    well thats the thing aint it, its only a recent problem as we've only recently decided that Children should be protected, as opposed to the old days when they were married off as young as 9,

    So Paedophilia was rather mainstreamat one stage
    Now its swung to the opposite end of the Spectrum

    Will there ever be an accomodation in a middle ground???????

    as for your kneejerk emotive response, many many people said that about and even DID that to Homosexuals not too long ago.

    Homosexual acts between consenting adults were still Crimes in this country In my Lifetime.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    No doubt there are countless people in the world that find children sexually attractive. It may be distasteful that they fantasize about children, but as long as they didn't act on their desires I wouldn't be calling for their heads.

    I once watched a documentary on the subject where a few of them were in treatment, they had never offended. One described it as a feeling a "normal" man gets when looking at an attractive woman, an instinct, difficult to suppress it as it was an instant automatic thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    Made a thread about this in after hours before but Mickey Dolenz doesn't like me because I'm awesomer than him so it was locked.

    Posted it in Humanities instead, it got really long though but still one of the more interesting threads if I do say so myself! http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056249576


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    double post

    strong admin consistency


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    jive wrote: »
    Made a thread about this in after hours before but Mickey Dolenz doesn't like me because I'm awesomer than him so it was locked.

    Posted it in Humanities instead, it got really long though but still one of the more interesting threads if I do say so myself! http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056249576


    Banned

    I'm awesome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭emeraldstar


    There's a differentiation between being a paedophile and acting on one's paedophilic tendencies. I don't sympathise with those who act on their urges. Obviously.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 413 ✭✭The Left Hand Of God




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    Banned

    I'm awesome.

    Meh, banning me would mean I'd just have to register an email and sign up on here again. Just goes to show that you locked my thread due to having a personal gripe, otherwise you would have locked this one too.

    Anyway if you're genuinely interested in the subject OP the thread in humanities sho am gooood. You'll get a lot of tabloidesque headline posts in this thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭alcomoholic


    jive wrote: »
    Meh, banning me would mean I'd just have to register an email and sign up on here again. Just goes to show that you locked my thread due to having a personal gripe, otherwise you would have locked this one too.

    Do it Micky, ban him. There's only one King Dolenz in this town!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    jive wrote: »
    Meh, banning me would mean I'd just have to register an email and sign up on here again. Just goes to show that you locked my thread due to having a personal gripe, otherwise you would have locked this one too.

    Anyway if you're genuinely interested in the subject OP the thread in humanities sho am gooood. You'll get a lot of tabloidesque headline posts in this thread

    Dude I think one of these might be coming your way soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭Reamer Fanny


    obviously what they do is pretty low brow and whatnot, but surely it's just a sexual orientation like any other? whilst we feel sorry for their victims, surely we must also feel sympathy for they themselves who live in a society that deems their sexual preferences to be deviant.

    Are you a Paedophile?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭alcomoholic


    no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    It's cool I'm done posting in this thread didn't come in to derail the thread anyway.

    Probably will get a ban (probably another one from micky dolenz no less) but what can you do, it's a mild inconvenience at worst. A simple log out would mean I could view the forum again anyway. Anyway the thread on humanities is good if anyone wants to read it, some knowledgeable people weighed in on the subject big tiiiime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    I read that thread and there is some ignorance in it, i know loads of lads who fancy 15yr old girls but would not act upon it for legal reasons etc, based on lots of what people are saying there they should be kept away from society even though they dont act upon there fancying the girls, much like i might like to take clthes from a shop but don't, does not make 1 a robber!!

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    jive wrote: »
    It's cool I'm done posting in this thread didn't come in to derail the thread anyway.

    Probably will get a ban (probably another one from micky dolenz no less) but what can you do, it's a mild inconvenience at worst. A simple log out would mean I could view the forum again anyway. Anyway the thread on humanities is good if anyone wants to read it, some knowledgeable people weighed in on the subject big tiiiime
    Well you probably wouldn't get banned so much if you weren't such a shít poster.


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