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100m CAT5e Cable €18 delivered.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭V4


    Cracking Deal mtb_kng
    Just bought, thanks ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭breathn


    NO NO NO STOP STOP STOP!

    I got Cat5e that originated from this crowd and it was cheap bad quality cable. It's the worst of the worst! It can be tied in tight knots it's so bendy. It doesn't have a solid core, it looks like stranded aluminum and is the worst gauge wire I've ever seen. Good luck trying to make a perfect crimp with it.

    The wires aren't even the right colour!

    IMG_1260.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    Ah crap... :rolleyes:

    Well, I'll give it a go anyway since I've bought it. It will still work okay if I get it setup right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭spongbob


    was just about to order some hdmi leads, I supose they are junk as well?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    Well, I got HDMI leads at the €2 shop and they're fine. How bad can they be? :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭spongbob


    Did you see its ebay feedback! Holy $hit!!

    Everyday of the week there is Negatives left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭Tockman


    Anyone find other good quality cat5e cable at a reasonably good price?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    breathn wrote: »
    The wires aren't even the right colour!

    IMG_1260.jpg

    As long as they're the same colour at both ends you're grand....:P:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭breathn


    kaizersoze wrote: »
    As long as they're the same colour at both ends you're grand....:P:D

    Except if the strands are so thin and brittle and you can't make a perfect connection.

    Except if there's so little copper in the wire that it can't carry a current over a decent distance.

    I wouldn't trust any data over it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    spongbob wrote: »
    was just about to order some hdmi leads, I supose they are junk as well?
    HDMI uses a digital signal, it either works or it doesn't, the only low quality ones that exist are the ones that don't work, and they're next to impossible to find. I have 3 £.15 HDMI cables from amazon working fine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Wood communcations sells 300m. For about 30 euro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Redrocket




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Ebay is not bargin.

    You can buy a propper 305 meter box of "certified" Link or Belden Cat5E cable for 30-35 euro here in Dublin at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Ebay is not bargin.

    You can buy a propper 305 meter box of "certified" Link or Belden Cat5E cable for 30-35 euro here in Dublin at the moment.

    You forgot a vital detail: Where you can get it in Dublin.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    You forgot a vital detail: Where you can get it in Dublin.


    Most electrical wholesalers or else Structured Network Specialist Shops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    I once saw the result of bad quality cat e5 cable which only worked by luckily setting network to half duplex. I don't know if you can do that now even.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Ebay is not bargin.

    You can buy a propper 305 meter box of "certified" Link or Belden Cat5E cable for 30-35 euro here in Dublin at the moment.
    Agree with this.

    Buy a box of Cat5E and crimp your own.

    You get crimping equipment from DealExtreme for quite reasonable prices too.

    https://www.dealextreme.com/p/rj45-network-crimp-plugs-100-pcs-retail-box-set-2689

    https://www.dealextreme.com/p/rj11-rj45-network-and-telephone-cable-crimping-tool-with-cable-stripper-21383


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Jonathan wrote: »
    Agree with this.

    Buy a box of Cat5E and crimp your own.

    You get crimping equipment from DealExtreme for quite reasonable prices too.

    https://www.dealextreme.com/p/rj45-network-crimp-plugs-100-pcs-retail-box-set-2689

    https://www.dealextreme.com/p/rj11-rj45-network-and-telephone-cable-crimping-tool-with-cable-stripper-21383


    Eh,you can buy RJ45 and RJ11 plugs here in Dublin for 20-30 cents a glass plug.

    And you dont have to pay for shipping and wait a week for them either.


    You will pick up a crimper for about 12-15 euro,depending on where you go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    lots of people offering advice but not offering links. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭cityhunter




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    You forgot a vital detail: Where you can get it in Dublin.



    Read my post above. woods are in dublin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,376 ✭✭✭54kroc


    vibe666 wrote: »
    lots of people offering advice but not offering links. ;)

    Go down to your local electrical wholesaler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Eh,you can buy RJ45 and RJ11 plugs here in Dublin for 20-30 cents a glass plug.

    And you dont have to pay for shipping and wait a week for them either.

    And the ones Jonathan has linked to are 6 cent each including shipping. :rolleyes:

    invest4deepvalue.com



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Eh,you can buy RJ45 and RJ11 plugs here in Dublin for 20-30 cents a glass plug.

    And you dont have to pay for shipping and wait a week for them either.
    I never said you couldn't. I was just providing a cheap alternative for people looking to crimp their own cables.

    Shipping from DealExtreme is always free btw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 Ambp


    Is there as such thing as a insulated or more heavy duty cable? I need to run one down a garden, was thinking of getting hosepipe and running it through it if it's not available or very expensive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,748 ✭✭✭Do-more


    Ambp wrote: »
    Is there as such thing as a insulated or more heavy duty cable? I need to run one down a garden, was thinking of getting hosepipe and running it through it if it's not available or very expensive?

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=outdoor+cat5e+cable&x=0&y=0

    invest4deepvalue.com



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,071 ✭✭✭Jnealon


    +1 on DX for the rj45 connectors. The AMP connectors are good value.
    Never used the crimper as I have a trusty paladin


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    vibe666 wrote: »
    lots of people offering advice but not offering links. ;)


    Ive allready stated where to go...................you forgot to read obviously.:rolleyes:



    Do you know what an electrical wholesaler is and looks like????

    If so,go there and ask.

    Its not rocket science


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭Wayne Scales


    I found these guys very good to deal with for cat6 cables :

    http://www.iccmshop.ie/cables


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭dingding


    kaizersoze wrote: »
    As long as they're the same colour at both ends you're grand....:P:D


    The problem is the cable does not look like it is twisted into pairs.

    The data needs to be sent down pairs which are twisted together to avoid noise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Ive allready stated where to go...................you forgot to read obviously.:rolleyes:



    Do you know what an electrical wholesaler is and looks like????

    If so,go there and ask.

    Its not rocket science
    as it happens no, i've never needed one and i couldn't tell you what one looks like or where one is because i'm not an electrician.

    one would assume it would be something along the lines of any other trade outlet, but not being in that trade i've never had a use for one.

    and there was no need at all to be smart, but obviously you forgot your manners.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    vibe666 wrote: »
    as it happens no, i've never needed one and i couldn't tell you what one looks like or where one is because i'm not an electrician.

    one would assume it would be something along the lines of any other trade outlet, but not being in that trade i've never had a use for one.

    and there was no need at all to be smart, but obviously you forgot your manners.


    Yoy want to talk about manners and being smart.....OK so.........


    Im not the one trying to be smart here.

    You are the one who posted a smart comment without even propperly reading what I had posted and said about where to get Cat5E in Dublin..

    You need to get some manners yourself and should read propperly 1st,before you try to type any smart posts in future.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Cat5E and Cat6 cable HAS to be twisted pair.

    Cat6 cable has more twists in the orange pair than Cat5E does.

    This is to avoid interference and give greater information bandwidth,travel and speed.

    I have a large wooden drum of Belden Cat5E outdoor cable here (200 meters left on it).
    I also have a box of Belden Cat5E indoor cable (305 meters)

    And I have a fresh box of Link Cat6 cable here too(305 meters).

    Cat6 is also a slightly thicker cable than Cat5E cablemdue to there being more twists in the orange pair.


    Any leccy wholesalers in Dublin or Ireland will have this in stock.

    Some shops will also sell it by the meter too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Yoy want to talk about manners and being smart.....OK so.........


    Im not the one trying to be smart here.

    You are the one who posted a smart comment without even propperly reading what I had posted and said about where to get Cat5E in Dublin..

    You need to get some manners yourself and should read propperly 1st,before you try to type any smart posts in future.
    this is supposed to be the bargain alerts forum, if you're just going to come here and say "sure you can get it in any old electrical shop in dublin" without saying specifically which ones and how much they charge you may as well not bother at all, hence my remark about people offering advice without offering links.

    just stating that any old place will do 305m box of cable for 35 quid in dublin is a little vague by any standard.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    vibe666 wrote: »
    this is supposed to be the bargain alerts forum, if you're just going to come here and say "sure you can get it in any old electrical shop in dublin" without saying specifically which ones and how much they charge you may as well not bother at all, hence my remark about people offering advice without offering links.

    just stating that any old place will do 305m box of cable for 35 quid in dublin is a little vague by any standard.


    Vague?????

    I made it very clear to you from the word go.

    Go to an electrical wholesalers or a Structured Networking company/shop.

    Its not rocket science and its a very simple thing to do.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Go to an electrical wholesalers or a Structured Networking company/shop.

    I'm still not entirely sure where I can find one of those, tbh.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    So no one can google for it or pick up the golden pages then????


    Some of the leccy wholesalers/networking companies in Dublin are the following........

    Eurosales
    ND Electrical
    CEF
    Michael Garry
    CEW
    Kedington

    ......and many more.

    Ah the joys of google or the golden pages and looking up "electrical wholesalers" or "structured cable networks".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Vibe you were told wood communications but ignored the post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    ted1 wrote: »
    Vibe you were told wood communications but ignored the post.
    and you were told that this is the bargain alerts forums where people are looking for specific bargains. look at any other BA thread and you'll find at the very least specific places in each thread with links and/or prices to any specific bargains people post, not just vague assertions that you *might* get this or that "here or there".

    3 pages of posts and (other than the OP and a couple of other vaguely related links answering other questions) one vague link to the main page of a website of a company that *might* have cables at approximately the price mentioned, despite them not listing any prices on their website at all. well done, you've exceeded my wildest expectations. :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    vibe666 wrote: »
    and you were told that this is the bargain alerts forums where people are looking for specific bargains. look at any other BA thread and you'll find at the very least specific places in each thread with links and/or prices to any specific bargains people post, not just vague assertions that you *might* get this or that "here or there".

    3 pages of posts and (other than the OP and a couple of other vaguely related links answering other questions) one vague link to the main page of a website of a company that *might* have cables at approximately the price mentioned, despite them not listing any prices on their website at all. well done, you've exceeded my wildest expectations. :rolleyes:


    Do you want somebody to hold your hand and burp you too????????:rolleyes:

    I will say it again,so that maybe you can read and understand a bit better.........




    Any electrical wholesalers or structured network cable company/shop.... (as stated in post 16).






    Oh and this thread has people giving the pros and cons of untwisted (so called) Cat5E cable and propper "certified" Cat5E cable.

    You only use twisted pairs and if your "Ebay" Cat5E cable is untwisted,then you have bought a piece of useless sh1t.


    You talk about vague and manners.

    You should engage your brain 1st,propperly read whats posted in the 1st place,and then not make subsiquent smart ar5e comments and end up not knowing what you are on about.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 8,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jonathan


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Do you want somebody to hold your hand and burp you too????????:rolleyes:

    I will say it again,so that maybe you can read and understand a bit better.........




    Any electrical wholesalers or structured network cable company/shop.... (as stated in post 16).






    Oh and this thread has people giving the pros and cons of untwisted (so called) Cat5E cable and propper "certified" Cat5E cable.

    You only use twisted pairs and if your "Ebay" Cat5E cable is untwisted,then you have bought a piece of useless sh1t.


    You talk about vague and manners.

    You should engage your brain 1st,propperly read whats posted in the 1st place,and then not make subsiquent smart ar5e comments and end up not knowing what you are on about.
    lol. Pipe down paddy. Its only a piece of cable. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    Jonathan wrote: »
    lol. Pipe down paddy. Its only a piece of cable. :pac:
    i think he's still missing the point about it being a "bargain alerts" forum. in other news, you can pick up cheap plants in any old garden centre in Dublin, just look them up. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    vibe666 wrote: »
    i think he's still missing the point about it being a "bargain alerts" forum. in other news, you can pick up cheap plants in any old garden centre in Dublin, just look them up. :pac:

    What were saying is the op posted a bargain and were correcting him saying its not a bargain, that better prices can be got in any electrical supplier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    ted1 wrote: »
    What were saying is the op posted a bargain and were correcting him saying its not a bargain, that better prices can be got in any electrical supplier.
    yes, something that was pretty conclusively established 3 pages ago, so where are the bargains? specific outlets, specific links, specific prices etc. that's the whole point of BA which some people really just don't seem to get, despite being told repeatedly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭psicic


    Ambp wrote: »
    Is there as such thing as a insulated or more heavy duty cable? I need to run one down a garden, was thinking of getting hosepipe and running it through it if it's not available or very expensive?

    O/T: I've run RJ45 cable through a hose pipe along side some TV cable. Never any problems and interference and both have been running for more than three years. Speed seems to be around the max one would expect from a 10/100 network (and a big improvement over the 54 wireless network link I was running before) One thing, had to split the hosepipe most of the way (wasn't using any lube :eek:) and then reseal with a role of Duct tape. Buried the cable.

    Cable I used was from Peats (I know... expensive).

    Recommend the DealExtreme Crimp plugs, this crimper and, if needed, these couplers.

    All apart from the couplers seem to ship fast from DealExtreme. Crimping a network cable is easy enough to do and you'll save a bundle if you have lots of networking to do.

    Back on topic: The cable in the OP isn't network cable, it's a type of phone cable. (Got a builder to do a job for me and they used this instead of network cable - at the time I didn't know the difference, but I learnt pretty quick why they didn't finish the networking job I'd paid them for as I tried to fix it :mad:).Have to admit never thought these electrical wholesalers would sell to the public - don't think I'd even heard the term 'structured networking shop' before this thread - but 300 meters of cable for €35 would be a bit of a result since I have a massive networking DIY project to do this year. I've lashed off an email to Woodcom - their site really isn't geared towards the comparative shopper, that's for sure. I'll post back any relevant info.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    vibe666 wrote: »
    yes, something that was pretty conclusively established 3 pages ago, so where are the bargains? specific outlets, specific links, specific prices etc. that's the whole point of BA which some people really just don't seem to get, despite being told repeatedly.


    Oh sweet lord jesus,you are some piece of work,you really are.:rolleyes:


    You seem to be incapable of reading any of my posts and understand the part where Ive stated quite a few times now,...."any electrical wholesalers or structured networking company/shop in Dublin".


    Another member has also stated this to you,yet you seem devoid of the ability to read and any realistic cop on and understanding.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Pic of Belden outdoor Cat5E cable (black)
    Belden indoor Cat5E cable (middle grey)
    Link 6 Cat6 indoor cable (last grwey)


    Please note that all 3 have twisted pairs and are certified too.

    Also note that Cat6 is a slightly thicker cable with more twists in the pairs,especially the orange pair.

    This is propper networking cable,and not like that cheap shyte off of Ebay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    paddy147 wrote: »
    Oh sweet lord jesus,you are some piece of work,you really are.:rolleyes:

    You seem to be incapable of reading any of my posts and understand the part where Ive stated quite a few times now,...."any electrical wholesalers or structured networking company/shop in Dublin".

    Another member has also stated this to you,yet you seem devoid of the ability to read and any realistic cop on and understanding.
    and you're still not getting it. :rolleyes:

    nobody is disputing that any electrical wholesalers will sell the stuff, that is pretty much a given and has been from the start. the problem is, you keep repeating the same vague assertions that everyone already knows without actually providing any links or details to any specific bargains (i.e. the whole point of any thread in the BA forum). <- i've highlighted this bit because it's very important and you seem to have trouble getting it, so maybe read it a few more times before posting another rant.

    to top it all off you've started going off on some random tangent repeatedly stating the bleeding obvious that the crappy cable the OP posted is in fact crappy and have now taken to showing everyone pictures of your own cable collection for some bizarre reason like nobody knows what network cable looks like.

    and then (the cherry on the cake) despite all this, apparently it's me that's the piece of work with the inability to read and no realistic cop on or understanding? :confused:

    now go and read the red bit again until it sinks in.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    vibe666 wrote: »
    and you're still not getting it. :rolleyes:

    nobody is disputing that any electrical wholesalers will sell the stuff, that is pretty much a given and has been from the start. the problem is, you keep repeating the same vague assertions that everyone already knows without actually providing any links or details to any specific bargains (i.e. the whole point of any thread in the BA forum). <- i've highlighted this bit because it's very important and you seem to have trouble getting it, so maybe read it a few more times before posting another rant.

    to top it all off you've started going off on some random tangent repeatedly stating the bleeding obvious that the crappy cable the OP posted is in fact crappy and have now taken to showing everyone pictures of your own cable collection for some bizarre reason like nobody knows what network cable looks like.

    and then (the cherry on the cake) despite all this, apparently it's me that's the piece of work with the inability to read and no realistic cop on or understanding? :confused:

    now go and read the red bit again until it sinks in.


    Right so,how many people is it going to take to tell you to go to any electrical wholesalers,before it sinks in Vibe???

    How many???


    And yes,you have no understanding of what you are talking about,with regards network cable (you dont have a clue infact,yet you seem to think you do).

    That is very clear and obvious.

    I do this for a living with regards structured networks,designing them,installing them and maintaining them for multi-national business clients.I know what Im talking about,as do others here,who have told you to go to an electrical wholesalers.
    You have also been given names of companies (by other members too) to go to,for the cable.

    Yet you just seem to be incapable of reading,listening or understanding.

    Oh and for the record Vibe,I allready provided a list of several electrical wholesalers and networking companies in Dublin,who sell and supply networking cable and products.


    YOU QUITE CLEARLY FORGOT TO READ THAT POST OF MINE TOO.......................typical.:rolleyes::rolleyes:





    P.S-Maybe read up and learn about what you are talking about 1st,before trying to enter a converstaion about the topic.


    Vibe--you havent posted a single constructive post yet here yourself,you havent named any companies who sell or stock boxes of newtorking cable or given any names of any companies.

    Try practicing what you are preaching 1st,before trying to have a go at me or anyone else,and then resort to posting any smart ar5e comments.

    Basicly,you havent bloody clue what you are on about and are out of your depth here.And it shows in your posts.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    psicic wrote: »
    O/T: I've run RJ45 cable through a hose pipe along side some TV cable. Never any problems and interference and both have been running for more than three years. Speed seems to be around the max one would expect from a 10/100 network (and a big improvement over the 54 wireless network link I was running before) One thing, had to split the hosepipe most of the way (wasn't using any lube :eek:) and then reseal with a role of Duct tape. Buried the cable.


    Not the best way to do it to be honest.Not really a good way to do it at all.You should be using specific outdoor Cat5E cable for outdoor/underground applications

    A coil of 10-15 meter plastic fish wire would have saved you the hassle of having to cut the hose pipe in half.

    The duct tape will give way in the end and will alow water into the hose pipe and this will rot the cat5 and cause it to fail.This might not happen for a few years,but it willl eventually happen.:(

    I use heavy guage hydrodare ducting/water pipe to run cables through gardens undergroud.One carries an SWA and the other carries several Cat5E cables in it.

    Hydrodare is thick walled,and waterproof/rot proof,it also give structural protection to the cables housed inside,so that the earth above does not crush or damage them.

    Also you should run a 2nd fish wire when instaling the cable (or cables) with the original fish wire.

    This means that if you ever want another cable pulled down through the ducting,then you have a fish wire at both ends,to attach the cable and then to pull the cable through.


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