does gaa hooliganism exist in ireland?

paky

could you imagine a pitched battle in the middle of o connell street...? savage

Saila

it does but its only the players at gaames

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Not really, the Guardian in the UK wrote this pie3ce last Spetember

On Sunday about 80,000 football fans gathered in Dublin's Croke Park to watch Cork defeat Down. There was no segregation of supporters, no need for stewards in high-visibility jackets or even police officers. It's a sport without agents or stars driving Ferraris. Moreover, 85 cents out of every euro that the devotees put into the game is reinvested in grassroots clubs. Football is supposed to be the people's game in the UK. But the real "people's sports" are those across the Irish Sea. The Gaelic sports of hurling and Gaelic football represent a real link between people, players and the governing association. Although Gaelic football attracts tens of thousands to its national championship, the players who turn out for Down, Cork and the other 30 counties of Ireland do so on a voluntary basis. A few have formed the Gaelic Players Association in an effort to extract more payments. But the GPA has generally been unsuccessful in creating a professional wage structure. Some stars earn money advertising everything from milk to fertiliser, but the overwhelming majority will turn up for training after a day at the factory or working on the farm. The Gaelic Athletic Association has had many proud achievements of late: the construction of Croke Park stadium, the end of its ban on members of the security forces playing its sports in Northern Ireland, and the generous decision to allow Ireland's national rugby and soccer teams to use its HQ as a temporary home. But the most notable is the survival of its amateur status. Long may it continue.

Jonah42

There was a big bust up between crowds and players during a club game in Donegal a few weeks back. A few arrests were made. It does exist, but not to the same extent as in footie.

super_furry

Wouldn't call it hooliganism exactly but spectators attacking referees and players has become a far too common occurrence.

amacachi

Judging from the crowd on the hill today it shouldn't be too long happening. :P

paky

has there been any gangs organising themselves for meetups online?

Sunnyisland

In the 70,s when heffo's army was going strong,There was a certain amount of violence at matches, mostly if not all was when Dublin were playing,The hill 16 was like an enclosed prison which imo only added to the bad atmosphere.I haven't heard of any violence out side the matches in a good while,most of it seems to be happening on the pitch with fans attacking refs and players etc,especially in the football at intercounty clubs.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Few on the Hill do be acting the shíte throwing bottles and stuff around, nothing to the extent of soccer hooliganism, though.

super_furry

paky wrote: »

has there been any gangs organising themselves for meetups online?

Longford have this crowd called The Slashers. Proper nawty!!!

the keen edge

Ha, so you've never been to a com-mittee meating so.

Brutal affairs.

mickydoomsux

There surely is. Plenty of stories out there of both players and fans attacking each other and the refs.

Nearly every GAA match i've seen has one major bust up in it. It's just swept under the carpet for the most part because the GAA is a sacred cow in Irish society.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Nearly every GAA match i've seen has one major bust up in it.

That's just a lie, tbh.

later12

Organised GAA Hooliganism is simply unheard of.

There have been brawls perhaps, mostly at club level, and certainly there has been violence towards refs. That's pretty shameful for the belligerents involved, but you're going to get that at any large, sometimes acrimonious gathering.

But no, organised hooliganism is not an element of the GAA, thankfully.

later12

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Nearly every GAA match i've seen has one major bust up in it. It's just swept under the carpet for the most part because the GAA is a sacred cow in Irish society.

Sounds like you don't go to a lot of GAA matches. That's blatantly untrue.

Sonics2k

I punched a bloke from Kerry outside Pairc Ui Chaoimh once for taking a swing at my dog.

Does that count?

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

There was a poor attempt on setting up a Mayo firm several years ago. I can't find the newspaper articles but there's discussion here.

Edit: Heres a copy of an article on it... http://www.thefreelibrary.com/GAA+HOOLIGANS+USING+WEB+TO+RECRUIT+THUGS%3B+Hate+messages+posted+on...-a0164089168

Sunnyisland

Sonics2k wrote: »

I punched a bloke from Kerry outside Pairc Ui Chaoimh once for taking a swing at my dog.

Does that count?

Depends, who was the dog barking for

Mike 1972

paky wrote: »

does gaa hooliganism exist in ireland?

Why ? Does it exist anyplace else ?

neiphin

paky wrote: »

has there been any gangs organising themselves for meetups online?

are you on something ?

Mr. Denton

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Why ? Does it exist anyplace else ?

Actually, I've heard New York has a big GAA hooligan problem.

There's two rival gangs of hooligans who frequently clash before games. I believe they call themselves the Jets and the Sharks.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Plenty of stories out there of both players and fans attacking each other and the refs.

Thats true. It even happens from time to time.

Nearly every GAA match i've seen has one major bust up in it. It's just swept under the carpet for the most part because the GAA is a sacred cow in Irish society.

Both of these sentences are total lies.

Sunnyisland

Mr. Denton wrote: »

Actually, I've heard New York has a big GAA hooligan problem.

There's two rival gangs of hooligans who frequently clash before games. I believe they call themselves the Jets and the Sharks.

Think your getting mixed up there

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Side_Story_(film)

The film opens in the streets of Manhattan in the late summer of 1957. There is a mounting tension set to music ("Prologue") between a white American gang, the Jets, led by Riff Lorton (Russ Tamblyn), and a rival gang of Puerto Rican immigrants, the Sharks, led by Bernardo Nunez

ballsymchugh

super_furry wrote: »

Longford have this crowd called The Slashers. Proper nawty!!!

that's needed when you have to play teams from ballinalee or granard!

smk89

One player that springs to mind is Eoin Mulligan, he's been arrested several times, criminal damage to a pub, assault, not a weekend he isn't on the crime page of the Tyrone observer.
Though it probably isn't GAA that causes it, he's probably just a cúnt.

CiaranMT

mickydoomsux wrote: »

There surely is. Plenty of stories out there of both players and fans attacking each other and the refs.

Nearly every GAA match i've seen has one major bust up in it. It's just swept under the carpet for the most part because the GAA is a sacred cow in Irish society.

Absolute spoof.

fryup

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

There was a poor attempt on setting up a Mayo firm several years ago.

haha:pac: a mayo firm, whats their clothing burberry wellies:)

Dangerous Man

amacachi wrote: »

Judging from the crowd on the hill today it shouldn't be too long happening. :P

This is my first time ever doing this but I feel like I have to: :rolleyes:

mackg

Ballyduff away lloooooooooooovvvvvvvvveeeeeeeee iiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttttt

mackg

Tommy Johnson now supports hurling

bollocks

entropi

GAA not likely...maybe some stuff just happening during local club games is all I've really heard about (for the parish and all that), but outside the area I live in last night there were Bohemians and Shamrock Rovers "supporters" kickin the shit out of each other, organised as far as I can tell, many many arrests which made me happy

fryup

there's no hooliganism in GAA

sure there so much violence on the pitch it keeps the fans happy:)

Mr. Denton

Master of Nothing wrote: »

GAA not likely...maybe some stuff just happening during local club games is all I've really heard about (for the parish and all that), but outside the area I live in last night there were Bohemians and Shamrock Rovers "supporters" kickin the shit out of each other, organised as far as I can tell, many many arrests which made me happy

and who could forget the first annual Bohs-Rovers Donkey Kong Challenge?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSy0lxfWWMo

(sped up for some reason)

concur4u?

with todays result in mind flash back to the mid 90s donegal v dubs i seem to remember penlty of hassle that all ireland final weekend around town

mattjack

amacachi wrote: »

Judging from the crowd on the hill today it shouldn't be too long happening. :P

I was there today..nothing happened at all......

later12

How are allegiances to Bohemians and Shamrock Rovers established? Like are fans divided up geographical within Dublin, or different subclasses of a certain socio-economic background or what?

Superbus

No, but GAA hooliganism is very prevalent in Morocco.

Absurdum

concur4u? wrote: »

with todays result in mind flash back to the mid 90s donegal v dubs i seem to remember penlty of hassle that all ireland final weekend around town

there was a Donegal lad kicked to death on O'Connell St after the All-Ireland final one year, but that was just pure scum picking on someone who was drunk, not really GAA hoolaganism at all

Mr. Denton

later10 wrote: »

How are allegiances to Bohemians and Shamrock Rovers established? Like are fans divided up geographical within Dublin, or different subclasses of a certain socio-economic background or what?

Basically whichever team you're unfortunate enough to end up watching live first.

Sunnyisland

later10 wrote: »

How are allegiances to Bohemians and Shamrock Rovers established? Like are fans divided up geographical within Dublin, or different subclasses of a certain socio-economic background or what?

Afaik Bohs are from the cabra northside areas and shamrock rovers from the southside,crumlin/tallaght area, Not 100 % .Also both are quite successful LOI teams where success can also bring undesirables

K-9

As others said, it tends to to happen on the pitch!

Have seen a few idiot supporters trying to make it like a Premier League match and hurl insults. People just ignore them.

Flecktarn

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

There was a poor attempt on setting up a Mayo firm several years ago. I can't find the newspaper articles but there's discussion here.

Edit: Heres a copy of an article on it... http://www.thefreelibrary.com/GAA+HOOLIGANS+USING+WEB+TO+RECRUIT+THUGS%3B+Hate+messages+posted+on...-a0164089168

How cringe worthy!

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Mr. Denton wrote: »

Basically whichever team you're unfortunate enough to end up watching live first.

Grow up.

later10 wrote: »

How are allegiances to Bohemians and Shamrock Rovers established? Like are fans divided up geographical within Dublin, or different subclasses of a certain socio-economic background or what?

Traditionally Bohs are Northside and Rovers are Southside. Dublin/Ireland's biggest clubs so there's geographical and top club rivalry.

pconn062

What about the riot that nearly broke out after the Louth/Meath match last year where a load of Louth "supporters" thought they would show their displeasure at the refs decision by trying to beat the **** out of him on live TV. You don't find that happening often in big TV aired soccer games.

lawhec

smk89 wrote: »

One player that springs to mind is Eoin Mulligan, he's been arrested several times, criminal damage to a pub, assault, not a weekend he isn't on the crime page of the Tyrone observer.
Though it probably isn't GAA that causes it, he's probably just a cúnt.

Bollocks! Some stories about Mugsy have legendary status, but I have never heard of him getting arrested, and certainly not every weekend :rolleyes:

Considering his profile, it shouldn't be too hard to find an online source to back up your claims? Arrested even just once?

P.S. The "Tyrone Observer" does not exist.

As to the original question, no there is pretty much no hooliganism in the GAA that mirrors that found in a small few elements in soccer. A few spotty kids whose balls are yet to drop trying to ape the scummy supporting elements of their favourite English Premiership team by labelling themselves as "Ultras" doesn't count and they quickly get fed up and grow out of it. At least locally on-field incidents are really no more prevalent than that in the Fermanagh and Western soccer league - I know one guy who attacked a referee in a junior soccer game a number of years ago and got a 21 year suspension, while not too long ago the F&W Refs Association said they were concerned about the amount of abuse their referees were getting at games.

Mr. Denton

baz2009 wrote: »

Grow up.

Oooooh.

lawhec

pconn062 wrote: »

What about the riot that nearly broke out after the Louth/Meath match last year where a load of Louth "supporters" thought they would show their displeasure at the refs decision by trying to beat the **** out of him on live TV. You don't find that happening often in big TV aired soccer games.

You don't find it happening often in big TV aired gaelic football games either.

concur4u?

lawhec wrote: »

Bollocks! Some stories about Mugsy have legendary status, but I have never heard of him getting arrested, and certainly not every weekend :rolleyes:

Considering his profile, it shouldn't be too hard to find an online source to back up your claims? Arrested even just once?

P.S. The "Tyrone Observer" does not exist.

As to the original question, no there is pretty much no hooliganism in the GAA that mirrors that found in a small few elements in soccer. A few spotty kids whose balls are yet to drop trying to ape the scummy supporting elements of their favourite English Premiership team by labelling themselves as "Ultras" doesn't count and they quickly get fed up and grow out of it. At least locally on-field incidents are really no more prevalent than that in the Fermanagh and Western soccer league - I know one guy who attacked a referee in a junior soccer game a number of years ago and got a 21 year suspension, while not too long ago the F&W Refs Association said they were concerned about the amount of abuse their referees were getting at games.

about 2/3 years ago he deffo made the daily rags down here for apparently smashing pub windows or some such incident

pconn062

lawhec wrote: »

You don't find it happening often in big TV aired gaelic football games either.

No but people say there is little or no hooliganism in the GAA so it was a big shock to see it.

K-9

pconn062 wrote: »

What about the riot that nearly broke out after the Louth/Meath match last year where a load of Louth "supporters" thought they would show their displeasure at the refs decision by trying to beat the **** out of him on live TV. You don't find that happening often in big TV aired soccer games.

That would be the Drogheda United and Dundalk "Louth" supporters!

mikemac

Worst incident I know of was Tipperary supporters breaking windows on the train coming home from Dublin, this was nearly a decade ago.
Gardai called to meet the train at the station, made national news

So serious trouble from fans though it was fights among themselves and didn't happen at the game

You can drink cans on trains and after a long day boozing, some people just can't handle it