want to buy bins

MapForJ

I want a decent pair of binoculars for astronomy and terrestrial use. Got cheap pair from Aldi but the image is dark/not sharp and i cannot get them so have one view, the two overlap. I should be able to have just one view shouldn't I?

I would like bak 4 lens high magnification/maybe 20 and clear image and to be able to put them on a tripod on top of car. any suggestions

Any suggestions or comments on these or these

Has anyone any comment on this spotting scope? Is the zoom function bad as on bins or are scope different

Popoutman

Decent bins for terrestrial use are in the 7x50 and 10x50 range. Too high on the magnification and you'll never see anything clearly through them.

Get a pair of 10x50 and get a good tripod and bino mojunt if you can - the amount that you will see over and above handheld bins is hard to believe. I've made out the rings of Saturn (small and not at all detailed but definitely ellipsoidal instead of a dot), I've seperated Albireo, and I've seen M51 all with tripod mounted 10x50s. I got a pair of 15x70 and they're a world better for what I use them for, but this time I use them with an extended tripod acting as a monopod, and I use them whilst seated. For me this is the best of all worlds, and I can clearly see the disk of M27, and I can see M57 as a non-stellar sized object.

Try these from here as a suggestion for a decent set of bins from a known-good supplier:
10x50 http://www.firstlightoptics.com/celestron-binoculars/celestron-nature-10x50-binocular.html
15x70 http://www.firstlightoptics.com/celestron-binoculars/celestron-nature-10x50-binocular.htm

The Aldi ones are usually pretty good, though I think that there is no easy way to collimate the cheaper sets of binoculars to make sure that they align. It's possible that they have taken a knock - unscrew the objective tubes from the prism housings (a bit - not off altogether) and tighten hand tight. Sometimes this can 'reset' the mechanicals.

MapForJ

Popoutman wrote: »

Decent bins for terrestrial use are in the 7x50 and 10x50 range. Too high on the magnification and you'll never see anything clearly through them.

Get a pair of 10x50 and get a good tripod and bino mojunt if you can - the amount that you will see over and above handheld bins is hard to believe. I've made out the rings of Saturn (small and not at all detailed but definitely ellipsoidal instead of a dot), I've seperated Albireo, and I've seen M51 all with tripod mounted 10x50s. I got a pair of 15x70 and they're a world better for what I use them for, but this time I use them with an extended tripod acting as a monopod, and I use them whilst seated. For me this is the best of all worlds, and I can clearly see the disk of M27, and I can see M57 as a non-stellar sized object.

Try these from here as a suggestion for a decent set of bins from a known-good supplier:
10x50 http://www.firstlightoptics.com/celestron-binoculars/celestron-nature-10x50-binocular.html
15x70 http://www.firstlightoptics.com/celestron-binoculars/celestron-nature-10x50-binocular.htm

The Aldi ones are usually pretty good, though I think that there is no easy way to collimate the cheaper sets of binoculars to make sure that they align. It's possible that they have taken a knock - unscrew the objective tubes from the prism housings (a bit - not off altogether) and tighten hand tight. Sometimes this can 'reset' the mechanicals.

Thanks I think you put the same link twice? Is this the 15x70

Also I was reading and might get a spotting scope instead. any experience of them?

Cadoche

I'm not an expert when it comes to astonomy and stuffs but have a great interest in it. Last week I used my binoculars to view Jupitar and I was so fascinated that I'm considering buying a proper telescope now. For €99 you can get great quality ones @ http://astronomy.ie/skymasterbinocs.html and since Astronomy Ireland are having massive relocation sale, I feel its the best time to buy so I'm thinking of opting for The NexStar 4SE @ http://astronomy.ie/summersizzlers.php. There are several on this series and they all look fab!

BULLER

What I expected going into this thread... high quality bins