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Any 20-25 year olds living away from home?

  • 04-08-2011 10:48pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 360 ✭✭greenmachine88


    What's your living situation like? Do you live with a group of people? Someone you are connected to in someway or assosciated with, people you go to college with etc? Do you find it a struggle making it on your own?

    And also what are some of the best things about living away from home and why did you decide to do it at a relatively young age?
    I imagine one great thing is being able to party whenever you want and do things you wouldn't normally be able to do at your parents house.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    20-25 isn't young to be away from home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    20-25 isn't young to be away from home.
    Fucking right. You should be out and on your own at 18, IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭blackdog2


    What's your living situation like? Do you live with a group of people? Someone you are connected to in someway or assosciated with, people you go to college with etc? Do you find it a struggle making it on your own?

    And also what are some of the best things about living away from home and why did you decide to do it at a relatively young age?
    I imagine one great thing is being able to party whenever you want and do things you wouldn't normally be able to do at your parents house.

    Moved to Asia for a year aged 20, haven't managed to make it back yet. Yes, you can do what you want(to a limit, law and common decency still apply, and you won't pull with an unmade bed)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭blackdog2


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Fucking right. You should be out and on your own at 18, IMO.

    And in the park working the streets?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    20-25 isn't young to be away from home.

    It's young to be away from home AND supporting yourself completely independently.

    If you go to university it's impossible to do. I've worked since a young age, saved up my money and I still wouldn't be able to afford to move out. Not until I finish my degree and get a full time reasonably paying job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Tayla


    I moved out when I was 16, bought a house at 18....if I had to go back to my parents house I think I would die. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    If you go to university it's impossible to do.
    No it's not. I've seen plenty of people do it.

    It's certainly not easy, but it's not impossible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    It's young to be away from home AND supporting yourself completely independently.

    If you go to university it's impossible to do. I've worked since a young age, saved up my money and I still wouldn't be able to afford to move out. Not until I finish my degree and get a full time reasonably paying job.

    I know plenty of people that were able to do just that without any help from their parents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    No it's not. I've seen plenty of people do it.

    It's certainly not easy, but it's not impossible.

    Really? Not receiving any government grants or anything?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    I know plenty of people that were able to do just that without any help from their parents.

    The thing is that it varies from person to person. You can't say some catch all sentence like "all 18 year olds should be on their own" or "20 is young to be supporting yourself". It really varies from situation to situation. So people on either side of the fence being smug just look like prats. If whatever you do works for you, brilliant. It isn't the same for everybody.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Acoshla


    It's young to be away from home AND supporting yourself completely independently.

    Is it? It's not young to be out of home, I've been living out of home since I was 18 and financially supporting myself since I was 20/21, I'm 26 now. It's great OP, I've shared with college friends, boyfriends, best friends, random flatmates, lived in 8 places in Galway, 1 in Cork and 1 in Canada, each one was a learning experience (and almost all of them were actually pleasant :))

    I decided to move out when I was 18 because I wanted to get away from my home town so I went to college 4 hours away, came home at weekends for the 2 years I was there and my mother paid for rent etc then because my course was very intensive with odd hours, couldn't for the life of me find a job. By the time I was out working at 21 I was supporting myself.

    I dunno what the best points are, no one to answer to, can stay out as late as you want, lie in bed as long as you want, etc, etc. Having to do all the cleaning sucks though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭locked_out


    Acoshla wrote: »
    Is it? It's not young to be out of home, I've been living out of home since I was 18 and financially supporting myself since I was 20/21, I'm 26 now. It's great OP, I've shared with college friends, boyfriends, best friends, random flatmates, lived in 8 places in Galway, 1 in Cork and 1 in Canada, each one was a learning experience (and almost all of them were actually pleasant :))

    I decided to move out when I was 18 because I wanted to get away from my home town so I went to college 4 hours away, came home at weekends for the 2 years I was there and my mother paid for rent etc then because my course was very intensive with odd hours, couldn't for the life of me find a job. By the time I was out working at 21 I was supporting myself.

    I dunno what the best points are, no one to answer to, can stay out as late as you want, lie in bed as long as you want, etc, etc. Having to do all the cleaning sucks though!

    Bully for you. I moved out at 17 but I would not be so far up my own ass to proclaim such a statement as absolute. The statement "you should be out at 18" is an opinion, not a fact. Opinions are relative to your own experiences. Some people don't want to rack up debt. I can understand why some people live at home till their early 20's. Rent is dead money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭Donahg


    Many many people will be back at home again living with their family after tomorrow when the financial world melts down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I'm 22 and have just moved out of an apartment I lived in by myself and am looking for another with one of my good friends. I moved out of home when I was 17 and haven't looked back since.

    The best thing about not living at home, for me anyway, is just the independence to be honest.

    I initially moved to go to college and because myself and my mum had a sort of strained relationship. It is much better now though. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    Ok then :rolleyes: I know that it would be impossible for me with the university course I am doing without getting a loan or grant which is something I'm unprepared to do.

    I've been working full time during the summer and part time during school/uni term since I was 15 btw so don't get smug with me saying I should be out living on my own. I simply cannot afford it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Acoshla


    locked_out wrote: »
    Bully for you. I moved out at 17 but I would not be so far up my own ass to proclaim such a statement as absolute. The statement "you should be out at 18" is an opinion, not a fact. Opinions are relative to your own experiences. Some people don't want to rack up debt. I can understand why some people live at home till their early 20's. Rent is dead money.

    Ehh I never said anyone had to be out at 18, OP asked had anyone moved out around 20-25 (18 not being far off 20) so I replied, calm down. How did I "proclaim" that statement to be absolute!

    And btw I have no debt, debt and renting are very different.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭T2daK


    I'm 22 would have moved out ages ago if I could, lived away for college for one year only, but now heading off again to do a masters.... if you're lucky enough to have consistent income(which is less so for many these days) then you should def on average try move out by the time you're 21/finish college


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Really? Not receiving any government grants or anything?
    Sorry, I should clarify. I'm focusing more on the independence from parents. I'm sure there must have been some state assistance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    Ok then :rolleyes: I know that it would be impossible for me with the university course I am doing without getting a loan or grant which is something I'm unprepared to do.

    I've been working full time during the summer and part time during school/uni term since I was 15 btw so don't get smug with me saying I should be out living on my own. I simply cannot afford it.


    What course are you doing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    locked_out wrote: »
    Bully for you. I moved out at 17 but I would not be so far up my own ass to proclaim such a statement as absolute. The statement "you should be out at 18" is an opinion, not a fact. Opinions are relative to your own experiences. Some people don't want to rack up debt. I can understand why some people live at home till their early 20's. Rent is dead money.

    holy sh1t! its 2006 again!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Tayla wrote: »
    I moved out when I was 16, bought a house at 18....if I had to go back to my parents house I think I would die. :(
    How the hell did you manage to buy a house at 18. Its people like you that I made a thread about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭locked_out


    Acoshla wrote: »
    Ehh I never said anyone had to be out at 18, OP asked had anyone moved out around 20-25 (18 not being far off 20) so I replied, calm down. How did I "proclaim" that statement to be absolute!

    And btw I have no debt, debt and renting are very different.

    insinuation. Look it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Ya I did when I were 23, 24 and 25 but have since been living at home again the past year :(, I'm now 26! I'd hope to move out soon again if I get a job or go back to college again if nothing else, I say I move out at some stage in the next few months cause I am getting sick of being at home but then again it is questionable if I could afford to live away from home, maybe for a few months but don't think it be for good unless I get a job! Would love to live away from home again and if I got a job I'd leave home in a heartbeat! I first left home at 23 but fingers crossed I will get to leave home again soon!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Acoshla


    Never mind!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭locked_out


    Acoshla wrote: »
    Paranoid, look it up!

    This is irrelevant to the topic at hand!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    im 21 and id move out if i could, lack of a full time job (ive looked) and the fact that my parents earn just enough so that i cant get A: college grants or B: any state benefits at all due to being means tested pretty much means im up a creek until i can find a proper job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Novella wrote: »
    The best thing about not living at home, for me anyway, is just the independence to be honest.

    I initially moved to go to college and because myself and my mum had a sort of strained relationship. It is much better now though. :)

    I agree no matter how much you love your parents or how well you get on with them or not, you do tend to get on better with them when you aren't living at home! The relationship gets less strained!

    I love the independence too, lived on my own and lived with people. Prefer to live on my own but I like the bit of company so both are equally good in their own way but I do like my own space too!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Acoshla


    the fact that my parents earn just enough so that i cant get A: college grants or B: any state benefits at all due to being means tested pretty much means im up a creek until i can find a proper job

    I was the same, my mother and father had a high enough joint income on paper that I got no grant, the fact that my parents are separated and Dad drinks his income while my mother also supports her father didn't matter, couldn't get a penny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,650 ✭✭✭cooperguy


    Most people would be finished an undergrad by 22, so how is 25 still young to be living on your own and supporting yourself? I really dont understand that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭Mickjg


    My family moved to Seattle one year ago today and 3 weeks later I moved to Chicago for college. That's a good three to three and a half hour flight away. I love it. In a way, I enjoy the distance. I was 21 when I moved and I really just needed to get away and have a change. I was lucky in that I made great friends and lived with people I loved. I really enjoyed the independence. Having your laundry and meals done for you at home is good and all that but it's a slight "inconvenience" to do it yourself.

    The only time I found myself missing being at home was when I was hung over (granted it was my own fault) and when I had a horrible cold and no one was there to look after me. No matter how sick I was I had to get my own tissues, food, drinks, medicine etc.

    Other than that, with the right people, living away from home is a great experience and I can't wait to get back in a month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 893 ✭✭✭danslevent


    I wish I could move out :(:/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    45 and still living with Mammy. No one can make Irish stew like her..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    doovdela wrote: »
    I agree no matter how much you love your parents or how well you get on with them or not, you do tend to get on better with them when you aren't living at home! The relationship gets less strained!

    I love the independence too, lived on my own and lived with people. Prefer to live on my own but I like the bit of company so both are equally good in their own way but I do like my own space too!

    Personally wouldn't agree


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,418 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Acoshla wrote: »
    I was the same, my mother and father had a high enough joint income on paper that I got no grant, the fact that my parents are separated and Dad drinks his income while my mother also supports her father didn't matter, couldn't get a penny.

    this country does my head in at times, id like nothing more than to be out by myself earning a living but i cant get no help to do that, whereas jim scumbag who lives off the dole and doesnt want to do anything with his life seems to get everything :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    24 out of home since 18, independent since 20. Paid for college myself when I went back, my independence is important to me but I'm not so proud that I wouldn't ask for help if I really needed it. Thankfully up to this point I haven't.
    Whatever works for you is what you should do but I don't understand the live at home until you marry and replace your mammy with your wife school of thinking.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭T2daK


    "Until you move out of the nest and support yourself, people will see you as a boy, not a man"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Personally wouldn't agree

    Really. For me it does. Its like when living at home for a year after leaving home for a few years and you come back and like not much to say when at home things get strained but at least if I had my own routine, working or studying and living away from home I have more to talk about and get on better with my mother cause its a case I haven't seen you in a few days but now I say if leave home again, my mother be lucky to see me once a week or every few weeks. Even once a month. 'Cause we are getting sick of each other. I don't like the fact she so nosey and watching me like a hawk, who you talking to where you going as if I were a teenager. Drives me up the wall. I can't do much without getting the third degree.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    I was fired out of the house at about 17. Strict mothership + rebellious headstrong me was never going to work out. I matured early, met a long term then bf, and she couldn't handle that. As a result I did everything in my life arse about face, it sent me in a direction I'd regret.

    Always try to reason with a teenager rather than fight, they're more likely to make better life choices, instead of rebelling in every way they can think of.

    I wasn't even at 'home' @ 20-25. Throughout my teens and twenties I cant say with conviction that I've ever 'partied'. I got a weekends / whenever holidays came up job a at 16, from then on I wanted to be independant, and had a boyfriend that was serious about it. Everything in my life was in the fast lane, and I'll be still mopping up the mess for a couple of years.

    *tosses keys*

    Lime to the left. shovel to the right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭T2daK


    doovdela wrote: »
    Really. For me it does. Its like when living at home for a year after leaving home for a few years and you come back and like not much to say when at home things get strained but at least if I had my own routine, working or studying and living away from home I have more to talk about and get on better with my mother cause its a case I haven't seen you in a few days but now I say if leave home again, my mother be lucky to see me once a week or every few weeks. Even once a month. 'Cause we are getting sick of each other. I don't like the fact she so nosey and watching me like a hawk, who you talking to where you going as if I were a teenager. Drives me up the wall. I can't do much without getting the third degree.

    I am not alone thank god


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    mackg wrote: »
    Whatever works for you is what you should do but I don't understand the live at home until you marry and replace your mammy with your wife school of thinking.

    I think those days are long gone. Just that a lot of partners/married couples end up living with parents until they get a house sorted or when income is a factor.
    Same applies to those single often can't afford a place of their own or income is a factor for them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 383 ✭✭HUNK


    Wish I could move out. Knowing me, it would be stressful as fnck. But in the end I need to be dragged away from home out of my comfort zone where I will be forced to work for everything and become independent. It would do me a world of good.

    ...well that, and my family is pretty fncking annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    I couldn't afford to live alone, and the idea of roommates disgusts me. I like living at home, my parents are cool. Plus they need the money my brothers and I hand up tbh.

    My Sister moved out at 17, and she came back at least 6 times for varying amounts of time. it wrecked my head, get out and stay out ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Abi wrote: »
    I was fired out of the house at about 17. Strict mothership + rebellious headstrong me was never going to work out. I matured early, met a long term then bf, and she couldn't handle that. As a result I did everything in my life arse about face, it sent me in a direction I'd regret.

    Always try to reason with a teenager rather than fight, they're more likely to make better life choices, instead of rebelling in every way they can think of.

    I wasn't even at 'home' @ 20-25. Throughout my teens and twenties I cant say with conviction that I've ever 'partied'. I got a weekends / whenever holidays came up job a at 16, from then on I wanted to be independant, and had a boyfriend that was serious about it. Everything in my life was in the fast lane, and I'll be still mopping up the mess for a couple of years.

    *tosses keys*

    Lime to the left. shovel to the right.

    It's those who grow up early and mature tend to leave the nest early!? Really for those who feel like going out into the real world and making a life for themselves. I am exempting college students in this case cause they leave home to study not necessary go out in the real world as such or go out working but they do gradually mature as years go by not saying that they don't or won't but won't really mature and go out in the real world and fend for themselves properly until the leave college.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    doovdela wrote: »
    I think those days are long gone. Just that a lot of partners/married couples end up living with parents until they get a house sorted or when income is a factor.
    Same applies to those single often can't afford a place of their own or income is a factor for them.

    Not as prominent no doubt but I still know of a few people my age who went this route.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Acoshla


    mackg wrote: »
    I don't understand the live at home until you marry and replace your mammy with your wife school of thinking.
    doovdela wrote: »
    I think those days are long gone.

    Nope! I know a 34 year old who lives with his parents, has never moved out, first time doing so will be when he gets married next month!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    doovdela wrote: »
    Really. For me it does. Its like when living at home for a year after leaving home for a few years and you come back and like not much to say when at home things get strained but at least if I had my own routine, working or studying and living away from home I have more to talk about and get on better with my mother cause its a case I haven't seen you in a few days but now I say if leave home again, my mother be lucky to see me once a week or every few weeks. Even once a month. 'Cause we are getting sick of each other. I don't like the fact she so nosey and watching me like a hawk, who you talking to where you going as if I were a teenager. Drives me up the wall. I can't do much without getting the third degree.

    Yup, definitely, my mum is my best friend, have always lived at home bar a couple of summers in London during college, always had my own independence also. Was still living at home at 29 when my mum got ill,8 years later, still at home, I'm a full time carer for her, I'm not sure I would have left home even if she hadn't got ill. Will never know though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭Redonblonde


    Moved out when I was 20...Always had a job in the summer to pay rent, bills and food. I worked in college too, about 160 per week was enough to cover my rent (70€) plus food, bills is cheaper when you live off Lidl and you live with other people/ boyfriend.

    Having said that I don't drink much and new clothes were a rarity as nothing tends to fit me and tears ensue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Acoshla wrote: »
    Nope! I know a 34 year old who lives with his parents, has never moved out, first time doing so will be when he gets married next month!

    You serious? I say its the case of a 'kid-adult syndrome'!? Why he waiting till marriage before moving out of home is it under certain circumstances or is it that his parents are very religious or has certain values/principles or it just never happened and suited him to be at home for length of time? It be a hard adjustment! Think its better living on your own and live with a couple different people over time before committing to a partner/marrying them before moving in with them. I heard of someone who didn't leave home till 31 but couldn't manage living away from home yet they were only down the road from their own home they ended up moving back home again after 6 months!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,729 ✭✭✭Acoshla


    doovdela wrote: »
    You serious? I say its the case of a 'kid-adult syndrome'!? Why he waiting till marriage before moving out of home is it under certain circumstances or is it that his parents are very religious or has certain values/principles or it just never happened and suited him to be at home for length of time?

    Parents would be quite old fashioned, I'd say the mammy looks after him fairly well, he's the youngest of a big enough family, younger by a good few years so he is her baby. He's been with the fiancée 6 years, and they've never lived together, I would no more marry someone without living with them!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Acoshla wrote: »
    Parents would be quite old fashioned, I'd say the mammy looks after him fairly well, he's the youngest of a big enough family, younger by a good few years so he is her baby. He's been with the fiancée 6 years, and they've never lived together, I would no more marry someone without living with them!!

    Wow, most people I know lived with their partners a few years before they got married I know one were together 5 years before they got married but they shared a house for a couple of months while they were engaged so they did get a chance to live together before getting married at least.
    Ya I can imagine having old fashioned parents would want the youngest to live at home for a while before getting married. There have been couples who were together 8 years even more than 10 years and they all lived with their partners before getting married!


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