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New game improver irons

  • 01-08-2011 9:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭


    As the head of my 6 iron tumbled down the fairway, the third one to go in the last couple of years, I think I need to make an investment. I play off 20, but amn't shooting to that, but that's primarily due to blowing my driver about the place on a tight course and scratching. I am either parring or scratching. So I would like good game improver irons, with some workability. I am not pretending to be a low handicapper but I don't want big clubby things that won't move no matter what.

    I am hard on clubs ( I hit them hard). My current set are King Cobra 3400 I/XH. A bit old now obviously but served me well, with stiff shafts at the time.

    So suggestions? Ping G15's seem to be recommended but have heard they are immoveable. Mizuno's? MX300? JPX 800? I will take any suggestions. I don't have a bottomless budget so custom fitting is out.

    I'm all ears...


Comments

  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭Keano


    I'm not sure what clubs to recommend but I have to ask why are you hitting the ball so hard?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭Webbs


    Have to ask as well why you need workability and move the ball when your off 20? Surely you want something that is going to be forgiving as generally the closer you get to blades (and harder to hit) the easier they are to shape.
    Why not get game improver irons for next few years until you get to single figures then think about changing, I use Cobra S9s and have no issues with them and would recommend if you can find a set second hand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭IITYWYBMAD


    Agree with the reply above. You're much more likely to enjoy your game, is you're playing well, and it sounds like you're not. If you're hitting the club off the ground hard enough to be breaking or weakening it, you're doing it wrong.

    What I would suggest is that you shop around for a good second hand set of clubs. something like these http://www.adverts.ie/golf/titlist-dci-981-irons-calloys-big-bertha-irons/746574 (Big Bertha) would be ideal, and work on your ball striking.

    Remember that most good golfers hit the ball at about 80% capacity, as a better strike will produce a better result. Also remember that it is absolutely not about how hard you hit the ball, but it is about how fast. The club head speed will determine distance (with also the loft taken into consideration) but you must allow the club to do the work.

    You're money would be better spent on 5 lessons, and worry about draw/fade after you master ball striking etc...My 2c.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭bailey99


    http://www.adverts.ie/golf/mizuno-mx-23-irons-5-pw/759741

    would recommend. Great set of irons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    I'd nearly get a cheaper set and get custom fit tbh. I think it's very important.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭ankles


    I appreciate the comments guys. I agree with what many of you are saying. Mostly my issues are mental, I swing free and easy on the range but get tight on the course. So I tend to hit them heavy rather than thin. I have a quick swing which won't change at this stage. My iron play is usually pretty solid, I push the odd one, but rarely are they too bad.

    In any event I need a new set of irons, and so all advice is taken on board. How much would fitting be for a set of irons? I was looking at Titleist AP1'a in Halpenny today, had a few swings, felt pretty smooth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    If you were buying a full set I don't think custom fitting would be too expensive. It's ages since I got my clubs fit so I can't remember the price.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,268 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    gpf101 wrote: »
    If you were buying a full set I don't think custom fitting would be too expensive. It's ages since I got my clubs fit so I can't remember the price.

    most places will take the cost of fitting off the price of the clubs if you but them there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,936 ✭✭✭AdpRo


    I bought a new set of MX200's recently and love them, my handicap has dropped from 21 to 16 since, custom fitting is free if you buy the irons there and then i think otherwise it is €50 for 1/2 hour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭ankles


    Thanks guys. Mc Guirks and Halpenny both offer the €50 charge, taken off if you buy the clubs, unless you want non-standard shafts (i.e. model, still free if just want different flex, shaft length etc.)

    Probably check out Halpenny. Will let you know.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭ankles


    OK. Got measured up by Ollie in Fingal last night. Tried a range of clubs, Calloway, Mizuno, Taylormade, but settled on the Titleist AP1's. Slightly longer shaft, slightly thicker grip, 2 degrees upright (?, not an expert on this stuff) stiff shafts. Flew off the face up there. Waiting now to find out when I'll get them. A few swing tips off Ollie as well. Nothing I didn't already know:(

    Just got the call, 7-10 working days. Free fitting when you buy so well worth it. If only now I could throttle back on my driver...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭randomer


    ankles wrote: »
    Just got the call, 7-10 working days. Free fitting when you buy so well worth it. If only now I could throttle back on my driver...

    I had a really bad day with the driver a couple of weeks ago, so the next round I decided to keep the driver in the bag. Used 3 wood off the tee. I did lose about 40 or 50 yards, but I managed to score 37 points.

    Then I decided to go and get a lesson from the pro in my club, and after three hits, he identified the problem, and fixed it with one simple change. I hit six drivers, straight down the middle and the problem was solved, end of lesson!!!

    Next day I went out and shot 38 points!

    So, my two suggestions. 1) Try playing a round without the driver and see how you score. 2) Get a lesson and fix the problem with spraying the driver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭ankles


    Collected the irons (Titleist AP1's, custom fitted) and had a round the following day in Mullingar. So wrappers off and straight into the bag. Ball flew off the face. One shank aside (they are longer than my old set!) I knocked nothing down. Felt I was swinging a bit out to in and cutting across them so tended to be right, but not much. Big problem ( of course) was new wedge so chipping around greens was pretty poor. 29 points was reasonable, threw away about half a dozen points with poor chips (into a bunker, into a hazard, etc.) so overall happy. The feel off them is fantastic.

    BTW I blew a few drives right but then settled down and had a great day off the tee. Focussed on shortening the swing (a bit anyway) and apart from finding the rough a little off line, and also driving into/under trees, I was pretty happy.

    Mullingar is a fine course.


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