Park n' Ride? Try Pay n' Pee!

confuseddotcom

Haven't been in town much lately so maybe it's not that new, but was in today and have noticed the Eyre Square Centre has installed a new Queuing system to pay for and use the loo! :rolleyes:

The old way just had a coin machine to pay as ya went in. I know it wasn't right but a lot usually just waited until someone came out and then went in without paying lol but it's a bloody bathroom for God's Sake!!!

With the new system, everyone individually has to pay to go or else ya don't get in lol (unless ya jump over??)

I know it's only 20cent or something but even so, even if it's 5cent lol, I just don't agree with having to pay to go to the toilet there! We're already handing over our money to the shops. Plus it's such hassle with bags etc., having to fish out / go get change to pay! Okay I do see that any system would need to be up-kept and maintained fair enough but not outta our pockets to pay to go to the toilet like!!! Like I have no problem with the Portaloos near The Skeff requiring us to pay the 30/50cent or whatever it is, as that is an extra facility really. But an Establishment / Shopping Mall may feel it professional or customer-friendly etc. to install toilets for our use, and I know every god-damn thing has to be paid for nowadays I know lol! But, i.m.o. it's a bit too expectant and in total bad taste to expect us to pay to use the toilet. They obviously feel there's money to be made outta this "racket" of getting us to pay, as I'm sure the new set-up cost a fair bit to install in the first place lol! Plus, if all those shops were just pretty much stand-alone Units I reckon Dunnes would somehow somewhere come up with Toilets for us to use for free, but no, Eyre Square Centre has to make us pay to go, which I don't agree with at all ....

/Rant

Samich

I just wear a nappy to bypass this.

confuseddotcom

Are you happy in your nappy??!!
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If you are clap your hands .......

ScumLord

At least now that their paying someone to sit there they can give some justification for having the charge in the first place.

Bottom line is if you don't like it stop going there and stop spending your money in the shops there. It's pretty easy to do it's not like there's anything all that great in there that you can't find somewhere else in a place that's easier to get to, has free parking and doesn't charge you to carry out an essential bodily function.

Samich

confuseddotcom wrote: »

Are you happy in your nappy??!!
:)









If you are clap your hands .......

Very Might be out of them next week

Solair

Most cities have done away / almost done away with public toilet as they are just not maintained properly or are too dangerous due to drug addicts using them.

Dublin seems to have none.
Cork only has a weird automatic toilet system on Grand Parade. I don't think here are any others in the entire city.

I'm amazed Galway still has such a "convenience"

xo.mary

Everyone knows you go to Supermacs to use their free facilities!

Solair wrote: »

Most cities have done away / almost done away with public toilet as they are just not maintained properly or are too dangerous due to drug addicts using them.

Dublin seems to have none.
Cork only has a weird automatic toilet system on Grand Parade. I don't think here are any others in the entire city.

I'm amazed Galway still has such a "convenience"

There's turnstiles in Heuston Station in Dublin.

moonflower

Solair wrote: »

Most cities have done away / almost done away with public toilet as they are just not maintained properly or are too dangerous due to drug addicts using them.

Dublin seems to have none.
Cork only has a weird automatic toilet system on Grand Parade. I don't think here are any others in the entire city.

I'm amazed Galway still has such a "convenience"

Every shopping centre I've been in in Dublin has public toilets.


I actually wonder is it legal for the Eyre Sq Centre to charge for the toilets? There's 5 restaurants and cafes in the center and I thought that if you were selling food you had to provide a free toilet. Isn't that why there was so much fuss when Ryanair wanted to charge people to use the toilet in-flight? Iirc they were told that if they wanted to charge for the toilet they would have to stop serving food.

ben.schlomo

moonflower wrote: »

Every shopping centre I've been in in Dublin has public toilets.


I actually wonder is it legal for the Eyre Sq Centre to charge for the toilets? There's 5 restaurants and cafes in the center and I thought that if you were selling food you had to provide a free toilet. Isn't that why there was so much fuss when Ryanair wanted to charge people to use the toilet in-flight? Iirc they were told that if they wanted to charge for the toilet they would have to stop serving food.

Never been to the Stephens Green centre so i see.

As for the op, they are not required to offer a toilet, so therefore they can charge what they like and rightly so. People clean the toilets so they need to be paid.

inisboffin

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Never been to the Stephens Green centre so i see.

As for the op, they are not required to offer a toilet, so therefore they can charge what they like and rightly so. People clean the toilets so they need to be paid.

I've used a loo in there, in a shop, maybe Dunnes? But I was with an older person, so maybe they made an exception.

I think if you have proof of purchase from some place in the shopping centre, they should let you use the loo for free. Otherwise pay 20c
Anywhere that serves food in the centre, or drink, that's not a 'newsagents' type thing should provide a loo collectively.

ben.schlomo

inisboffin wrote: »

I've used a loo in there, in a shop, maybe Dunnes? But I was with an older person, so maybe they made an exception.

I think if you have proof of purchase from some place in the shopping centre, they should let you use the loo for free. Otherwise pay 20c
Anywhere that serves food in the centre, or drink, that's not a 'newsagents' type thing should provide a loo collectively.

But sure they only rent pre-fitted units, if the units aren't equipped with plumbing etc then they can't and as there are toilets in the centre then they aren't likely to anything.

inisboffin

ben.schlomo wrote: »

inisboffin wrote: »

I've used a loo in there, in a shop, maybe Dunnes? But I was with an older person, so maybe they made an exception.

I think if you have proof of purchase from some place in the shopping centre, they should let you use the loo for free. Otherwise pay 20c
Anywhere that serves food in the centre, or drink, that's not a 'newsagents' type thing should provide a loo collectively.

But sure they only rent pre-fitted units, if the units aren't equipped with plumbing etc then they can't and as there are toilets in the centre then they aren't likely to anything.

That's my point. The communal loo in the centre should be at least paritally subsidsed by their rent - and proof of purchase used if they are being pedantic

Mrs OBumble

moonflower wrote: »

I actually wonder is it legal for the Eyre Sq Centre to charge for the toilets? There's 5 restaurants and cafes in the center and I thought that if you were selling food you had to provide a free toilet. Isn't that why there was so much fuss when Ryanair wanted to charge people to use the toilet in-flight? Iirc they were told that if they wanted to charge for the toilet they would have to stop serving food.

It's only a legal requirement for places that have on-license alcohol sales. Cafes, supermarkets etc are not required to provide 'em, though some choose to for customer service reasons.

I don't believe that the Eyre Square centre ones (anyway) should be free: many of the people who use them are not customers, and why should the rent of the jewellers, newsagent, clothing shops, etc pay for your toileting pleasure.

I do believe that the council should be responsible for providing a minimum level of public toilets - and I do believe they need to be pay-and-pee, because otherwise they're just abused.

xo.mary

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Never been to the Stephens Green centre so i see.

Eh, Stephen's Green has public toilets...

Inky_Lady

The public toilets in Stephen's Green Centre were "pee as you go" at a rate of 50c a time when I was last there.

There is a very clean, free public toilet the Galway branch of TK Maxx on the first floor, FYI!

inisboffin

Inky_Lady wrote: »

The public toilets in Stephen's Green Centre were "pee as you go" at a rate of 50c a time when I was last there.

There is a very clean, free public toilet the Galway branch of TK Maxx on the first floor, FYI!

How about a 'pee what you can' system?






Ok, obviously too delirious with the end of race week. I should go to bed...

Lapin

Inky_Lady wrote: »

The public toilets in Stephen's Green Centre were "pee as you go" at a rate of 50c a time when I was last there.

Yep.

They're also up on the top floor, and half way down the balcony on the right. Thw most awkward location possible.:(

Not that the ones in Eyre Square centre are conveniantly located either. Tucked away as they are down by the back door.

I just use the Skeff.

ben.schlomo

xo.mary wrote: »

Eh, Stephen's Green has public toilets...

..........that you pay to use!!

meoklmrk91

One of the oddest things I've heard in a while, plenty of public bathrooms here in Limerick thankfully. Although I'm nearly sure I remember one of those pay toilets being down on Henry St. years ago not sure if it's still there though.

I personally don't think shoppers should have to pay to go to the toilet, at the end of the day isn't a day out shopping costly enough, paying for parking out the nose, if your not lucky plastic bags, and your more than likely to be caught by a hawker atleast once. FFS is it not too much to ask for a complimentary toilet.

ben.schlomo

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

One of the oddest things I've heard in a while, plenty of public bathrooms here in Limerick thankfully. Although I'm nearly sure I remember one of those pay toilets being down on Henry St. years ago not sure if it's still there though.

I personally don't think shoppers should have to pay to go to the toilet, at the end of the day isn't a day out shopping costly enough, paying for parking out the nose, if your not lucky plastic bags, and your more than likely to be caught by a hawker atleast once. FFS is it not too much to ask for a complimentary toilet.

Yeah and next thing you go to the till and they expect you to pay for the stuff you have chosen,jees those greedy shops!! :rolleyes:

meoklmrk91

ben.schlomo wrote: »

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

One of the oddest things I've heard in a while, plenty of public bathrooms here in Limerick thankfully. Although I'm nearly sure I remember one of those pay toilets being down on Henry St. years ago not sure if it's still there though.

I personally don't think shoppers should have to pay to go to the toilet, at the end of the day isn't a day out shopping costly enough, paying for parking out the nose, if your not lucky plastic bags, and your more than likely to be caught by a hawker atleast once. FFS is it not too much to ask for a complimentary toilet.

Yeah and next thing you go to the till and they expect you to pay for the stuff you have chosen,jees those greedy shops!! :rolleyes:

Ah now come on you know what I mean, I just think that certain things should be complementary, not every single thing in this country needs to have a price.

Mrs OBumble

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

I personally don't think shoppers should have to pay to go to the toilet, at the end of the day isn't a day out shopping costly enough, paying for parking out the nose, if your not lucky plastic bags, and your more than likely to be caught by a hawker atleast once. FFS is it not too much to ask for a complimentary toilet.

Problem is, lots of people who would use the Eyre Square Centre aren't actually shoppers.

LucyBliss

Heuston station has done away with the turnstiles so you can just walk into the toilets there now. I was in Dublin last month and we went to St Stephens Green. There was a sign stating the fee for the toilets, but there was no one outside collecting the money and the box was near the wall so most people were just walking in.

confuseddotcom

I guess can kind of see in a way how making it somewhat official to some extent would possibly obliterate any illegal activity or un-wanted loiterers etc., butttt 9 times outta 10 every time ya see someone go down there round the corner to go use the toilet they are laden with bags etc. so I reckon most are shoppers. And anyways why should we pay for Eyre Square Centre's Cleaners .... Still an un-necessary hassle though where no choice but to "pee as you go" (Love that Inky_lady !! ) or not use the loo lol!

TheCosmicFrog

OP, those toilets have been there since they renovated Eyre Square. Have you really not been in town for that long?

And personally, I think they're great. They're only 20c and you're usually guaranteed a clean, safe toilet facility, as they clean themselves between "goes". Public open-access toilets are dangerous places.

ScumLord

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Yeah and next thing you go to the till and they expect you to pay for the stuff you have chosen,jees those greedy shops!! :rolleyes:

It's not the same at all. These are shops begging for business and if they expect human beings to want to shop in their establishment they should provide facilities that allow humans to carry out their necessary bodily functions without leaving.

This is all part of the race to the bottom by Irish businesses they expect people to pay more for less. Any other country I've been to these kind of services are always there, because those businesses know they can't expect return customers if the customer finds the establishment expect them to pee their pants or pay a premium.

Irish people just allow these little things and then complain when they turn around and find they're paying 4 times more than every other country to buy last years fashion in some run down shed.

I don't care what their excuses are I'm not driving all the way to Galway city and shopping in that place if it means I'm going to be caught short for a piss.

ben.schlomo

ScumLord wrote: »

It's not the same at all. These are shops begging for business and if they expect human beings to want to shop in their establishment they should provide facilities that allow humans to carry out their necessary bodily functions without leaving.

This is all part of the race to the bottom by Irish businesses they expect people to pay more for less. Any other country I've been to these kind of services are always there, because those businesses know they can't expect return customers if the customer finds the establishment expect them to pee their pants or pay a premium.

Irish people just allow these little things and then complain when they turn around and find they're paying 4 times more than every other country to buy last years fashion in some run down shed.

I don't care what their excuses are I'm not driving all the way to Galway city and shopping in that place if it means I'm going to be caught short for a piss.

Jesus will you relax a bit. They do provide facilities and charge for them so as to ensure they are well maintained, rightly so in my opinion. As for the rest of your post/rant it doesn't make much sense, what 'last years fashion' do you pay 4 times more for? I was in Italy last week and clothes and footwear are priced no different, i've lived in Portugal, same scenario there. Never found another European country where i get things 4 times cheaper than here or any cheaper for that matter. Dont think you can find cheaper then Penneys on the continent.;)

ScumLord

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Jesus will you relax a bit. They do provide facilities and charge for them so as to ensure they are well maintained, rightly so in my opinion. As for the rest of your post/rant it doesn't make much sense, what 'last years fashion' do you pay 4 times more for? I was in Italy last week and clothes and footwear are priced no different, i've lived in Portugal, same scenario there. Never found another European country where i get things 4 times cheaper than here or any cheaper for that matter. Dont think you can find cheaper then Penneys on the continent.;)

The UK is a hell of a lot cheaper than Ireland.

I've given my opinion, I won't shop there. If you want to pay extra for those things that's up to you, but remember you set the standard by where you spend your money.

Dutchess

And in Debenhams too.

confuseddotcom

Wrong loo Cosmic!

The loo yer on about it is fair to expect to pay for that one, I'd class that as an extra facility, it's more understandable to have to pay for that one. The one in the Eyre Square ~Shopping~ Centre, not so fair.

ben.schlomo

ScumLord wrote: »

The UK is a hell of a lot cheaper than Ireland.

I've given my opinion, I won't shop there. If you want to pay extra for those things that's up to you, but remember you set the standard by where you spend your money.

Christ you would swear people were spending money somewhere ran by a bunch of terrorists with the over the top descriptions.
And for the record i use the toilet in my house and therefore dont need to avail of their extra facilities .

UK wages are also a hell of a lot less than those in this country.

ScumLord

ben.schlomo wrote: »

Christ you would swear people were spending money somewhere ran by a bunch of terrorists with the over the top descriptions.
And for the record i use the toilet in my house and therefore dont need to avail of their extra facilities .

UK wages are also a hell of a lot less than those in this country.

Oh come on now, I'm not the one overacting. I'm just saying I've set a standard and this place doesn't meet it. You can think what you like but I'm not spending money in a place that will make me pay for a piss, a bush in a field won't charge me to take a piss and these places are no better than a bush in a field.

ben.schlomo

ScumLord wrote: »

Oh come on now, I'm not the one overacting. I'm just saying I've set a standard and this place doesn't meet it. You can think what you like but I'm not spending money in a place that will make me pay for a piss, a bush in a field won't charge me to take a piss and these places are no better than a bush in a field.

As far as i know it would be considered lewd behaviour to pee in a bush? Shopping centres=bushs in a field, again with the dramatic descriptions. I just dont understand how people can get so worked up over a copper.

ScumLord

ben.schlomo wrote: »

As far as i know it would be considered lewd behaviour to pee in a bush? Shopping centres=bushs in a field, again with the dramatic descriptions. I just dont understand how people can get so worked up over a copper.

It's not considered lewd unless you do it in front of someone. It's the wild, animals are allowed to pee there.

I'm not worked up, the decision is simple for me they don't provide the minimum standards I expect so I don't shop there.

Black_Knight

Its 20cent ffs, get over it!

ScumLord

Black_Knight wrote: »

Its 20cent ffs, get over it!

No, I have to go out of my way and pass other shopping centres to get to that one and then pay for parking. I won't do that, there's enough competition that I can be picky.

Like I said if ye're happy paying for the basic necessities off with ye, I'm not giving them my money and it's as simple as that.

ben.schlomo

Walked by the Eyre Square Centre at 10 am and then back again at 11am, queue both times at the toilets, their paying off anyway

ben.schlomo

edit:double post

DRakE

it's 20c stop whinging

confuseddotcom

The Discussion isn't about getting over the actual cost whether it's 2cent or 20cent, it's about exchanging ANY amount of money in order to pee which isn't very customer-oriented.

TheCosmicFrog

confuseddotcom wrote: »

Wrong loo Cosmic!

The loo yer on about it is fair to expect to pay for that one, I'd class that as an extra facility, it's more understandable to have to pay for that one. The one in the Eyre Square ~Shopping~ Centre, not so fair.

Ah... *facepalm*

Apologies, didn't read the original post properly. Yeah, paying for those ones always annoyed me, but they're right next to an exit, so I suppose it helps keep foot traffic down.

Black_Knight

ScumLord wrote: »

No, I have to go out of my way and pass other shopping centres to get to that one and then pay for parking. I won't do that, there's enough competition that I can be picky.

Like I said if ye're happy paying for the basic necessities off with ye, I'm not giving them my money and it's as simple as that.

Then do that. If you have to pee in town, 20c aint such an expense to start a rant, when for that 20c you get a convenient clean toilet.

I think its a bit petty tbh, imagion yourself having this rant with someone you actually know! :eek: How embarassing.

confuseddotcom wrote: »

The Discussion isn't about getting over the actual cost whether it's 2cent or 20cent, it's about exchanging ANY amount of money in order to pee which isn't very customer-oriented.

2 cent would be worse.... in a funny kinda way.
I think if you need to pee, pay up. Its not exactly going to break the bank. Ive been in Galway 6 years, and I think ive used that toilet twice.


Finally, heres a tip. Pee before you go into town, didnt your mammy teach ya anything?

Scumlord I hope you never plan on visiting Amsterdam.

There are workers in 90% of pubs/take aways sitting at a table charging 50c to use the toilets.

ger vallely

Solair-I live in Galway but am from Finglas in Dublin. Charlestown Shopping Centre in Finglas has the cleanest,most well looked after toilets I've ever been in,well in a shopping centre. They are up there with fancy hotel toilets. And they are free. Plus,people eating in the Eyre Square centre,surely if they buy food in the cafe or Burgerking then they ought to be entitled to the use of a toilet? They absolutely should not have to pay.Oops, just saw the restaurant argument.can't see though how a ticket from restaurants would work though as there's no ticket collector at the turnstile.It's only 20c but still, surely they get enough money to allow people a free pee.One hand drier is still broken and there was no paper in 2 toilets on Tuesday-not such a top service.And yes-I did bring it to the attention of the management.

alimegs

if it means using a toilet that is regularly cleaned I will gladly pay 20c to use it.... some toilets in pubs are shocking