Why is every single GAA Umpire unable to make the correct decision?

timberland

Why is every single GAA Umpire unable to make the correct decision?

yabadabado

timberland wrote: »

Why is every single GAA Umpire unable to make the correct decision?

exaggerate much?

Clareman

I'm a GAA umpire and I'd like to think I've made a few correct decisions in my time. Op if you think it's easy why don't you go down to your local club and offer your services

yop

timberland wrote: »

Why is every single GAA Umpire unable to make the correct decision?

Have you ever done umpire?
I presume you meant the Kildare match there based on the timing of this, the ref over ruled the decision, the umpire has to take his word on it.

Royal Seahawk

It was a square ball

yabadabado

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

It was a square ball

no it wasn't.bad call by the ref.

Royal Seahawk

If a forward is in the square when the ball comes back off the post it's a squareball. Consult your nearest rulebook.

timberland

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

If a forward is in the square when the ball comes back off the post it's a squareball. Consult your nearest rulebook.

he wasnt in the square when the ball came back off the post.....

yop

Rules are here.
http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents/publications/official_guides/Official_Guide_2011_Part_2.pdf

No mention of that, so would be good to see where you got that?

Royal Seahawk

yop wrote: »

Rules are here.
http://www.gaa.ie/content/documents/publications/official_guides/Official_Guide_2011_Part_2.pdf

No mention of that, so would be good to see where you got that?

Playing gaelic football for 20 years I guess.

TopOfTheRight

Jesus christ lads it's when the ball enters the square! The ball came all the way through the square, hit the post and stayed in play so he loads of time to run in. As it happens he didnt bother entering the square until it struck the post so its irrelevant

yop

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

Playing gaelic football for 20 years I guess.

lol, right. Well done the same for over 30 years and I have never heard of it.

You told us to get out the rule books, we did, it wasn't there. So if you have it in a rule book then what rule and section is it under.

Just because you played for 20 years doesn't mean you know the rules, same applies to myself, but your in the minority there with that statement and also as I said the official GAA rules attached.

yabadabado

thats not the rule,its once it enters the square.

gooch2k9

Considering this is inspired primarily by the Kildare game, I can't see why they refuse to use a TMO like rugby. Umpires can work as normal, and the TMO can be called upon if there is a doubt. You could have teams only able to have a certain amount of times they can ask for TMO to review. Amazing they don't use this when the technology is there.

ThunbergsAreGo

For the same reason players make bad decisions in games, they are human

TopOfTheRight

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

Playing gaelic football for 20 years I guess.

Thats all well and good but there was a story going round years ago that an all ireland winning player asked the referee at the after-match banquet how many steps you were allowed take with the ball because he thought it was five!

Long Term Louth

I sense a little vindictiveness, from Kildares Leinster counterparts

timberland

naughtb4 wrote: »

For the same reason players make bad decisions in games, they are human

but its getting beyond a joke at this stage. its happening nearly every week..

TopOfTheRight

gooch2k9 wrote: »

Considering this is inspired primarily by the Kildare game, I can't see why they refuse to use a TMO like rugby. Umpires can work as normal, and the TMO can be called upon if there is a doubt. You could have teams only able to have a certain amount of times they can ask for TMO to review. Amazing they don't use this when the technology is there.

Very hard to implement across the board and also with our sport it doesnt guarantee correct decisions. Its a month since that Geragthy goal against Kildare and i still havent seen conclusive television evidence to indicate one way or the other

TopOfTheRight

If anyone here has ever done the job of umpire at an adult match they will understand just how difficult it is, its all well and good sitting at home pointing fingers! The umpire who called the square ball today also had the job of watching where the ball was going just beforehand as it was right up above his head when it hit the post, how is he expected to be watching the sky above him and the ground below him at the same time??

The second umpire wasnt even consulted from what i could see and it should have been his responsibilty to watch the square once he realised the ball was going across towards the far post imo.

gooch2k9

Well if no one can say for sure, they shouldn't give it, the same as rugby. That goal today was obviously not square ball, which the umpires should have seen, but that a TMO could clarify. It is understandable that umpires make mistakes as they aren't trained and they are humans, but when there is a potential aid to crucial decisions I feel it should be utilised.

Long Term Louth

The umpire initially raised the green flag for a goal and was overruled by the Ref, therefore he is not to blame.

TopOfTheRight

Long Term Louth wrote: »

The umpire initially raised the green flag for a goal and was overruled by the Ref, therefore he is not to blame.

Well in that case Coldrick must have just told him to disallow it because i didnt see any consultation with the other umpire, this is another problem, referees not bothering to actually ask the umpire for their opinion and overruling them straight away

Long Term Louth

I know all about it

Birdnuts

Long Term Louth wrote: »

The umpire initially raised the green flag for a goal and was overruled by the Ref, therefore he is not to blame.

As a Kildare man I'm getting a bit tired of being ^^^(**& over by incompetent refs - especcially when this clown was still on the half-way line when the incident occured:mad::mad:

Gameface

Royal Seahawk wrote: »

If a forward is in the square when the ball comes back off the post it's a squareball. Consult your nearest rulebook.

Question for all, I always believed that if the ball hit the goals or part of the defending team it couldn't be a square ball........was this ever the case??? did the rule change and when???, or was this always a myth, I'm not the only one to believe this... Just checked out the official rules on the gaa website and it makes no mention off this...I remember reading the rule book years ago and sure i seen it......the gaa needs to use the media to get rules across more clearly....using the sunday game and having a two minute slot on rules would be great, different rule each week, have a player or two and ref and explain how and why about the rule, the reality is even the most off informed off us don't really know the rules.....i personly think too much pressure on officials, the very people who give out about them wouldn't be so perfect if in that position......by the way I don't ref or anything like that, just play......as for the square ball.....as i read in an article earlier in the summer ......just get rid off the rule....it comes from a time when keepers needed protection cos they had none.....by the way def a perfect goal goal in the kildare game

Long Term Louth

Birdnuts wrote: »

As a Kildare man I'm getting a but tired of being ^^^(**& over by incompetent refs - especcially when this clown was still on the half-way line when the incident occured:mad::mad:

I dont blame you, it was a perfectly good goal, and would have put Kildare in a match winning position. I know all about poor decisions.

Imhof Tank

The whole umpiring system is nothing but a sick joke. Not only in the sense of guys getting decisions wrong - but in the chaos when one umpires disagree, as in the Wexford Limerick match.

Maybe some posters with umpiring experience could throw some light on this but what exactly is supposed to be the proceedure for resolving differences of opinion between the 2 umpires? So often it appears to be a case of one intimidating his buddy who obligingly backs down.

The absolute 1000% certainy on the face of the umpire who gave the Limerick matchwining point from the impossible angle - he should have got an oscar for that performance. Obviously anxious to reassert authority after the wide call shortly before.

CiaranMT

Birdnuts wrote: »

As a Kildare man I'm getting a bit tired of being ^^^(**& over by incompetent refs - especcially when this clown was still on the half-way line when the incident occured:mad::mad:

Donegal scored 3 points in the first half. You can't be blaming a refereeing decision for the fact that ye couldn't beat them.

As for the decision, I didn't see it myself but from what I gather from the less sensational posters on here, it wasn't the umpire's fault.