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Killaloe bypass, Shannon crossing & R494 Birdhill-Killaloe

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Kevwoody wrote: »
    Why is €49 million being spent on a regional road in rural Clare when other more important schemes are crying out for funding?
    A significant amount of funding in both the old Capital Plan and the new one is allocated to regional and local roads, and rightly so as the relative cost is lower but they are quite important for their location. Some of these were reinforced in the LIHAF funding for opening up lands for housing developments.

    The €49m here is for 3 projects, a bypass of Killaloe on the busy R463, a new crossing of the River Shannon to complement the existing medival structure that's traffic light controlled and an upgrade of the extremely deficient R494 between Ballina and the M7 near Birdhill.

    Can I ask where you think the €49m is better spent? All national road projects with planning permission are fully funded up until 2021, so there are no national road projects getting shelved for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭ Kevwoody


    Ok.
    Letterkenny town is absolutely gridlocked 7 days a week. There is one bridge into and out of the town to the south and east of the county.
    I know youll say the various N14/15/56 schemes are in planning, but their still almost 10 years away.
    As someone who is from Letterkenny but works in the south of Ireland, the difference in infrastructure is astounding. Donegal and Letterkenny in particular have been getting the thin end of the wedge for years. Granted, the few N56 schemes and the Kiltoy roundabout have helped, but we're still years behind the rest of the Republic.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Kevwoody wrote: »
    Ok.
    Letterkenny town is absolutely gridlocked 7 days a week. There is one bridge into and out of the town to the south and east of the county.
    I know youll say the various N14/15/56 schemes are in planning, but their still almost 10 years away.
    As someone who is from Letterkenny but works in the south of Ireland, the difference in infrastructure is astounding. Donegal and Letterkenny in particular have been getting the thin end of the wedge for years. Granted, the few N56 schemes and the Kiltoy roundabout have helped, but we're still years behind the rest of the Republic.

    I agree with what you're saying, I am extremely frustrated at the speed at which planning of national road schemes are being progressed. The three schemes in Donegal (N13/N14/N15) are all planned to be submitted to ABP in mid 2020. That's 4 and a half years to even get a planning submission done. That could be done in 2 years if the will and resources, both financial and personnel, were there.

    The Killaloe scheme should be fully implemented by the end of 2021. By then, we are looking at the three Donegal schemes being at CPO stage if we are lucky and the timeline doesn't slip. The Killaloe scheme certainly isn't taking from any others. ALL national road schemes with planning permission are currently active and scheduled for implementation by 2022 or so.

    There is approx 7bn allocated in the NBP for national roads and 4.5bn for regional/local roads, meaning that meritorious national road schemes will get done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 73hdkgo


    Extract from Clare CoCo Chief Executives Report for June 2018 on this project,

    "Killaloe Bridge and By-Pass – Work is ongoing in relation to the necessary land acquisitions required. Detailed design is the next phase of work required followed by going to tender in 2019 with construction expected to be completed by late 2022."

    Other reports available here https://www.clarecoco.ie/your-council/about-the-council/chief-executive-reports/


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 73hdkgo


    73hdkgo wrote: »
    Extract from Clare CoCo Chief Executives Report for June 2018 on this project,

    "Killaloe Bridge and By-Pass – Work is ongoing in relation to the necessary land acquisitions required. Detailed design is the next phase of work required followed by going to tender in 2019 with construction expected to be completed by late 2022."

    Other reports available here https://www.clarecoco.ie/your-council/about-the-council/chief-executive-reports/

    "Arising from the confirmation of the CPO, the Land acquisition process is ongoing. This will continue in to the New Year but crucially, doesn’t prevent other works from happening in parallel. To this end, we are in the handover process from ROD Consultants who brought the project through the planning and CPO phase to RPS Consultants who will bring it through the detailed design and Tender preparation and Construction stages. We are liaising with the DTTAS Inspector to ensure the project advances at the optimum pace through the various stages remaining."


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Tender for consultancy services awarded to RPS as above.

    Expect this to start driving on now

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=123168&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=2&PP=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,989 jacksie66


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,297 Mod ✭✭✭✭ spacetweek


    Astonishing how long this is taking.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Astonishing how long this is taking.
    Sadly I can't think of any road schemes at present to which that statement does not apply. The depressing new normal.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32 73hdkgo


    73hdkgo wrote: »
    "Arising from the confirmation of the CPO, the Land acquisition process is ongoing. This will continue in to the New Year but crucially, doesn’t prevent other works from happening in parallel. To this end, we are in the handover process from ROD Consultants who brought the project through the planning and CPO phase to RPS Consultants who will bring it through the detailed design and Tender preparation and Construction stages. We are liaising with the DTTAS Inspector to ensure the project advances at the optimum pace through the various stages remaining."

    "The project is continuing on a number of fronts. The land acquisition both by agreement and through the arbitration process is progressing with further hearings scheduled for the weeks beginning Nov 12th and 19th. Necessary Survey work, both in river and on land, has been carried out and/or is being procured."

    https://www.clarecoco.ie/your-council/about-the-council/chief-executive-reports/2018/chief-executives-report-november-2018-30118.pdf


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Killaloe Bridge and By-Pass: Consent to access certain lands is still awaited so that the necessary survey and ground investigation works
    can be completed in advance of the detailed design being completed. This work is ongoing and will be followed by the required archaeological surveys. In parallel, our Consultants RPS, are continuing with the various technical assessments and modelling and Land acquisition agreements are being progressed where possible by agreement. In a number of cases, Land Acquisition is being progressed through the Arbitration process with the next hearing listed for June 17th

    Latest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 312 ✭✭ Javon Kind Necklace


    Any more of an update on this?


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    July update:
    Killaloe Bridge and By-Pass – RPS continue to work on the final elements of the detailed design while in parallel, the required surveys in terms of Ground Investigation, Topographical and Archaeological continue to be arranged and carried out. Land acquisition agreements continue to be progressed by agreement where possible as well as through the Statutory Arbitration Process in a small number of cases. This work is ongoing with hearings listed by the Property Arbitrator in the last 2 weeks of June and again scheduled for the first week and a half in July


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭ A2LUE42


    Seems to be some work done on site....finally.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 73hdkgo


    Killaloe Bridge and By-Pass – As required, we are liaising with DTTaS, TII, OPW, IW and the Utility companies in relation to technical compliance and statutory consents. We are also working towards finalising the various Landowner Deals by agreement where possible, while others are being processed through the Arbitration process. An updated Business Case was submitted to the Department last month for their review and the next Project Team meeting is scheduled for Thursday Nov 14th. The Tender short listing process will commence by year’s end with the scheme expected to go to tender in early Summer 2020. Following the procurement process and evaluation of tenders received, we would expect to award the contract in late 2020 subject to Department approval. The construction period is expected to take 3 years thereafter.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    http://www.clare.fm/news/fresh-legal-challenges-may-lead-minor-delays-killaloe-bypass/

    Tender expected in mid 2020, but there are outstanding legal objections.

    I think this has something to do with the "usual suspect" we are quite familiar with here, but I am open to correction on that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭ A2LUE42


    https://www.nenaghguardian.ie/news/roundup/articles/2020/06/18/4189731-work-on-new-shannon-crossing-to-start-by-end-of-year/

    Deputy Alan Kelly has confirmed that work will commence on the new Ballina-Killaloe bridge by the end of 2020.


    He said: “Following on from discussions I had last week with officials in the Department of Transport, I can confirm that preliminary work on the new Ballina-Killaloe bridge will commence before the year end and that the full contract for the work will go to tender later on this year.


    “Officials have confirmed to me that the project will not be impacted in any way by any changes in Government and that they are committed to its construction in as timely a fashion as possible.


    “The department confirmed that work on an advance contract to do preparatory work on the route and design is aimed to commence after the summer and be completed by February 2021 and in tandem the full contract for construction will be put out to tender with a three year timeframe. The estimated cost of the construction is expected to be in excess of €40 millon. The preparatory work to be completed by next February will involve felling of trees, fencing and design works across the 6.2 kilometre route of the project. Once this is completed and the tender is awarded, the construction is expected to be carried out as one project rather than three separate ones for the new bridge; the upgrade of the Birdhill to Ballina R494 road and the bypass around Killaloe.


    “I'm delighted that this work is finally commencing after I first put this into the National Development Plan in 2015. There were a number of legal and planning issues that held this up so I am delighted that we have reached this stage. It is a project that will transform the area and one I have promoted for over a decade.”


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Good to hear they are doing this as one project rather than three separate ones, which wouldn't really make a whole pile of sense.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21




  • Registered Users Posts: 654 ✭✭✭ pajoguy


    marno21 wrote: »

    Great to see progress... could we see contractor in ground in 12 months?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,105 ✭✭✭ Pete_Cavan


    €50m, thats a spicey meatball!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 326 ✭✭ Beckham Fancy Spark


    The sooner this is built the better. The traffic coming through o Briens Bridge is insane at the moment. They put those traffic lights up but they're pretty useless as a load of absolute idiots drive straight through them when they're red. My mother and a few others have complained to the guards about it as they were nearly hit on the bridge walking or crossing the road when people come flying through the red lights. Guards say its up to the council.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 13,114 Mod ✭✭✭✭ marno21


    Update from Clare County Council:
    The Project Team continue to meet virtually on a regular basis to progress the delivery of this important piece of infrastructure for
    the Mid-West region. We are now nearing the stage where we will be in a position to finalise the detailed design and sign off on technical compliance through independent checking which will enable us to publish the Tender for the Main Scheme works before the end of the year.

    To achieve this, the following elements are being carefully managed:
    • Assessment of the recently received Suitably Assessment Questionnaires (SAQs) for the main works contract is currently ongoing where expressions of interest were received in late August 2020 from a number of national and international contractors. An assessment board has been established for the qualitative assessment of the submissions which is due to take place on 4th and 5th November, 2020. A shortlist of suitably experienced contractors will be drawn up and subsequently invited to tender for the Main Works Contract.
    • In parallel with the procurement of the Main Works Contractor, Clare County Council are also progressing a number of advance works contracts. These consist of:
    ◦ Invasive Species Treatment, which has been completed for 2020
    ◦ Rubicon Heritage Services Ltd have commenced archaeological investigations on site
    ◦ Letters of Intent and Regret will be issued for the Enabling Works contract in the coming days. This work includes site clearance, fencing, demolition, sewer diversions and access road construction, to commence late November/early December 2020 subject to Department approval. These works, once commenced, will progress over the winter months and into the spring/summer of 2021.
    • Prior to issuing the Notice to Enter (the intention by the Statutory Authority and its agents to enter and take possession of the lands as confirmed by the CPO) an advance notification letter was issued to all landowners last week, updating them on the current status of the project and advising them of the Council's intention to issue a Notice to Enter across the entire scheme in order to facilitate the
    completion of the Advance Works contracts, as outlined above.
    • Significant progress continues to be made in completing Land Acquisition deals, with the majority of agreements anticipated to be in place by the end of 2020. These will be concluded in the main by agreement.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 4,297 Mod ✭✭✭✭ spacetweek


    Cost has gone up to €69 million.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,105 ✭✭✭ Pete_Cavan


    spacetweek wrote: »
    Cost has gone up to €69 million.

    How much was the previous estimate? The €69 million includes construction, land acquisition, design, supervision, risk, contingency and archaeology, could previous figures have been construction only?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,915 ✭✭✭ Cookiemunster


    What's the Clare Champions source for the €69m figure? Despite quoting a council engineer he doesn't mention any figure. They just throw it in there without reference, despite all previous sources saying €49m. I'm not saying that they're wrong, but they wouldn't be the most reliable.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭ Truckermal


    The Birdhill to Ballina section is fenced off now with all the Tree's cut and removed, this is a awful piece of Road and extremely narrow in places.


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