Q SAT

elsie1b

Having seen the ad I'm intrigued to know how they can promise Irish and U.K channels from hylas 1 satellite.
http://qsat.ie/

ISAA

Me to, ???

siocs

Minimum contract 24 months???? Thats a long time.

GerardKeating

elsie1b wrote: »

Having seen the ad I'm intrigued to know how they can promise Irish and U.K channels from hylas 1 satellite.
http://qsat.ie/

Am more interested in how they plan a Phone service over the satellite link...

STB

elsie1b wrote: »

Having seen the ad I'm intrigued to know how they can promise Irish and U.K channels from hylas 1 satellite.
http://qsat.ie/

I just love the propaganda !

Whilst the price of the box is €49.50 (half the price of a Saorview box according to the propaganda) they neglect to mention that you will still have to pay €17.50 A MONTH for channels that are actually FREE to AIR.

And even then it look like they may not have a FULL list of channels.

The hard sell for the less knowledgable!

givecredit

STB wrote: »

I just love the propaganda !

Whilst the price of the box is €49.50 (half the price of a Saorview box according to the propaganda) they neglect to mention that you will still have to pay €17.50 A MONTH for channels that are actually FREE to AIR.

And even then it look like they may not have a FULL list of channels.

The hard sell for the less knowledgable!

You also missed the €99 installation cost as well. The Tv service is an "addon" to their broadband service. So now i make it €24.50 + €17.50 for the minimum package...

AstralTV

'can you see the sky? say hello to qsat'

as you can see the sky from most locations, its still no guarantee of line of sight,

The Cush

I see they are referring to selected digital TV and radio channels. Could this be an IPTV service?

4ndroid

Read the t's & c's......torrents and peer to peer not compatible and will result in disconnection. Daily interest charged on late payments. Some other good ones in there too. Coverage wise it sounds good but if other options are available then better speeds can be found for better value.

PressTheButton

AstralTV wrote: »

'can you see the sky? say hello to qsat'

as you can see the sky from most locations, its still no guarantee of line of sight,

Elevation?

rlogue

Possibly an IPTV service rather than encrypted but since Niall Quinn lives in England is he missing out on potential income from fellow expats for the Irish channels?

STB

@RLogue Dont know if you have been keeping up with the reception reports from UK of Saorsat on 9E, but it certainly seems like an free avenue for you to explore for a once off outlay.

byte

rlogue wrote:

Possibly an IPTV service rather than encrypted but since Niall Quinn lives in England is he missing out on potential income from fellow expats for the Irish channels?

He wouldn't be able to market the Irish channels to people in UK though

rlogue

Saorsat might work if I had a 2.5 m dish and a Ka LNB but as soon as the French spots are active I'd get nothing.

@byte why be confused? There is an opportunity for some one out there if the rights issue could be resolved. The only confusion lies at Montrose where no one in RTE seems to appreciate there might actually be a demand for their channels here - hence the grey market

AstralTV

PressTheButton wrote: »

Elevation?

nice one

byte

rlogue wrote: »

Saorsat might work if I had a 2.5 m dish and a Ka LNB but as soon as the French spots are active I'd get nothing.

@byte why be confused? There is an opportunity for some one out there if the rights issue could be resolved. The only confusion lies at Montrose where no one in RTE seems to appreciate there might actually be a demand for their channels here - hence the grey market

Yes, and the likelyhood of the main RTE channels having broadcasting rights in Britain.. Nil.

pat13wx

byte wrote: »

Yes, and the likelyhood of the main RTE channels having broadcasting rights in Britain.. Nil.

Why isn't it reciprocal? I am thinking about the fact the BBC, for example, allow their channels to be viewed here In Ireland.

The Cush

pat13wx wrote: »

Why isn't it reciprocal? I am thinking about the fact the BBC, for example, allow their channels to be viewed here In Ireland.

The cost of programme rights.

The BBC buy programming for 60 million+ people and pay producers/distributors based on that potential audience. Irish channels pay based on a population of 4.5 million.

Mr. Conor Hayes: ...
The BBC, ITV and a number of other companies have put their services on one of the wideband Astra satellites. The services are broadcast unencrypted, or “in the clear” as we call it. The trouble with those wideband satellites is that they have a very big footprint. If RTE were to be put up on a wideband satellite, its services would be in the clear to the UK, France, Holland and many other countries. One might ask why that should not be done, to which I would respond that we do not have the resources to purchase the rights to enable us to broadcast into those countries. We buy programming that allows us to broadcast to 4.5 million people. We do not have the money to broadcast to 100 million people. Therefore, the option taken by the BBC when Freesat was launched is not available to us.

http://debates.oireachtas.ie/MAJ/2010/07/14/00003.asp

pat13wx

The Cush wrote: »

The cost of programme rights.

The BBC buy programming for 60 million+ people and pay producers/distributors based on that potential audience. Irish channels pay based on a population of 4.5 million.

Thanks for that. I had always assumed it was a mutually exclusive agreement between Ireland and the UK, but clearly not.

rlogue

What byte doesnt mention is that there has been legislation in place for some time now authorising RTE to operate an overseas satellite TV service. The rights DO exist for a lot of RTE's home produced programming otherwise RTE would not be able to stream them worldwide on the RTE player.

STB

RTE's primary responsibilities are rolling out DTT and ensuring suitable free to air coverage to the people of the Island of Ireland. This has been considerably expensive even with the TV licence revenue generated from [eople who actually reside here.

Whilst the idead of having a service for the diaspora is all very nice on paper, the real paper that would be needed to provide such a service is not available. We do not have the luxury of the €4bn that the BBC collect in licence fee revenue and so as a country have to cut our cloth to its measure.

Saorsat should be an alternative for people who reside in the UK if the reception reports are to be believed (1.2m).

legendary.xix

Are they looking at providing a satelite broadband service as well?

pat13wx

legendary.xix wrote: »

Are they looking at providing a satelite broadband service as well?

Who, RTE? If the were that would be interesting.

Q-Sat does provide a BB service, it is their main function....but their download monthly allowance/limit is a meagre 2 gigs regardless of which package you chose. Not good by any stretch.

There is an on going discussion here:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056342136

byte

rlogue wrote: »

What byte doesnt mention is that there has been legislation in place for some time now authorising RTE to operate an overseas satellite TV service. The rights DO exist for a lot of RTE's home produced programming otherwise RTE would not be able to stream them worldwide on the RTE player.

I'm aware of that alright, but you were on about the main TV channels, not a dedicated expat service.

Anyway, I imagine that RTE think that the RTE Player being available overseas for homegrown content will cover their asses for now.

rlogue

@byte it exactly covers their asses right now but it's a bit like going out into a snowstorm clad only in a loincloth. @STB don't fool yourself over Soarsat - have there been verified reception reports in London? The furtherest I've read is Cardiff. When the French spots go active there's no chance.

El Inho

"can you see the sky" -

well im inside and its getting dark...so no....does that mean then i should just forget it?

channelsurfer2

17.50 for channels that i can get free with a dish installed?.... er someone should tell Niall that the days of people paying for free tv are numbered...

pat13wx

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

17.50 for channels that i can get free with a dish installed?.... er someone should tell Niall that the days of people paying for free tv are numbered...

That is a good point. However, for those who do not already have a dish or any way of receiving the free-sat channels it would be an option. Mind you, being charged a monthly price is unfair for what are essentially free channels. A one-off price would be more understandable, which is what most providers of free to air TV are doing.

watty

It's more than unfair. Especially when there is a BB sub. It's verging on dishonest.

byte

What about cableco's who, you could argue charge for BB, and also charge for what includes FTA channels too? Sky do the same in the UK, though not here... yet.

watty

The Cable companies provide payTV channels also even channels FTA on Satellite or Aerial are costing the cable company money out of their own spectrum and head end and they have to pay Royalty/Rights for most FTA channels on Cable. Sky subs are always including Pay TV.

Is there any evidence that Qsat provides even one Pay Channel on their Sub?
Qsat have no TV headend or TV sprectrum. It's entirely Broadcast TV carried by others. If they are charging a TV sub they are legally obliged to pay Royalties to the FTA channels.

bog_savage

Am I right in saying you can pay €59.95 for 8meg broadband and have a download limit of 5gig per month ??????

"Download caps from 1GB to 5GB depending on package plus NightSaver option of unlimited bandwidth"

pat13wx

bog_savage wrote: »

Am I right in saying you can pay €59.95 for 8meg broadband and have a download limit of 5gig per month ??????

"Download caps from 1GB to 5GB depending on package plus NightSaver option of unlimited bandwidth"

Yes, that is the case. A pathetic allowance if you ask me.

Minstrel27

5 gigs? I get a 15 gig allowance on my phone ffs. For shame Niall Quinn, for shame.

hobbit stomper

Just saw the ad on TV and I looked it up. Wow... I guess they really do focus on areas where people live in the middle of nowhere and don't even have broadband via phone lines.

• They offer 1MB to 8MB speed, while most other providers start off at 8MB.
• Their cheapest pack is almost as expensive as some other providers most expensive pack.
• They charge 50 EUR for a router, while most other providers give away a router for free.
• They charge 99 EUR setup fee, while many other providers to not have a setup fee.
• They offer a ridiculous download limit of 1GB to 5GB. Common... with that you can literally just check your emails. No Youtube, no music, no daily surfing.

In my opinion, only go for this provider if you really live in the middle of nowhere, where you cannot get Eirecom or UPC.

Cantona's Collars

So many alternatives offering fixed wireless for rural areas,why would anyone get Qsat?

morgana

Also, the amount of detail provided is pitiful. No FAQ, no breakdown of download allowances per package, the so-called nightsaver add-on is another 10 E/month, no acceptable use policy i could find, the list goes on ...
No info on the limits of satellite broadband like its high latency, unsuitability for on-line gaming etc.,
A absolute last resort option only.
My fixed wireless, while not cheap, at least gives me unlimited downloads at about 5mb/sec for 40 E/month.

pat13wx

morgana wrote: »

My fixed wireless, while not cheap, at least gives me unlimited downloads at about 5mb/sec for 40 E/month.

That sounds a pretty good deal. If I may ask, who are you with in Cork.

morgana

I'm with Ripplecom (previously Amocom - Bweeng transmitter). They've had their share of problems in Cork recently, hopefully it is fixed now. PM me if you want more detail.

pat13wx

Thanks for that. I know of Ripplecom and even got in touch with them recently with the hope of using their service, but was told they do not currently reach my area. This is a shame as they seem a decent crowd; the lady I spoke to came across as knowledgeable and very nice. She took my details and once they're available where I live they'll get back to me.

Noggle

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I decided to use Q Sat as my existing broadband provision thing didn't work out. I find them virtually impossible to deal with. They can't tell you when they will make your connection. 4-6 weeks from when you pay is supposed to be the offer. If you ask them well what date have you got recorded as my date of payment they say “we can't tell that from here"? If you say could you check and I'll ring you back later they say well if you ring customer services you can't be reconnected to me you get (wait for it -the helpdesk). Apparently they are bringing ina new system and migrating records "this weekend" and can flag caller complaints for Head Office “in Dublin"..... I could feel my heart sinking so I said can I have my money back ....they have no mechanism to organise a refund.


Anyone else come across Q-Sat?

Oh yeah they are "manically" busy.

Noggle

http://www.wicklowbroadband.com/

These were recommended to me but I unfortunately decided Q Sat might be best.

Kristopherus

Noggle wrote: »

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Oh yeah they are "manically" busy.

All two of them, Quinno & Gillian:D:D

pat13wx

Q-Sat is fast becoming a bit of a joke - but not to their customers, who have to suffer such an appalling service. I am gad I didn't go with them, even when I was tempted to when they first came on the scene.

Cantona's Collars

Noggle wrote: »

http://www.wicklowbroadband.com/

These were recommended to me but I unfortunately decided Q Sat might be best.

You should've went with Wicklow Broadband,seems like Q-Sat are a bit of a joke.The way they are dealing with you is amateurish at best.

FRIENDO

Qsat should refund you your 99 Euro installation fee and I hope they do.

@Noggle
Thank you for informing us of your situation.
I would advise putting all correspondence with Qsat in writing either email or hard copy, for future reference.

I very nearly went with Qsat last week however I went with Tooway from Onwave.

I rang Onwave last Friday and paid E99.00 installation fee, E25.00 Activation fee and E39.95 monthly subscription.
I get 6MB download, 1MB upload and 4GB monthly download allowance.

They told me on Friday installation would be in next 10 days, they rang back Friday afternoon and arranged installation for Monday. Two installers arrived in an Onwave marked vehicle from the Mullingar area, very good customer service. From my observation they followed health and safety and did a good job.

So far the internet service has been perfect and my family and I are happy with the service.

Minstrel27

4GB monthly allowance? I hope you don't stream video or listen to the radio.

givecredit

Minstrel27 wrote: »

4GB monthly allowance? I hope you don't stream video or listen to the radio.

When I saw the 4gb allowance i thought it was a typo. Checked the tooway website, My God its not a typo! Hope you dont use the internet too much or you are in for a nasty surprise at end of month when you get your bill.

I love Joan Burton

givecredit wrote: »

When I saw the 4gb allowance i thought it was a typo. Checked the tooway website, My God its not a typo! Hope you dont use the internet too much or you are in for a nasty surprise at end of month when you get your bill.

True I agree, but you have to understand its the only option for some people

FRIENDO

Yes it is my only option, I have had other operators in the past a total head reck.

We dont do much down loading at moment.

Wife is doing an online course with FAS, all working well.

Onwave state a fair deal process, and connection slowing down if you are doing major downloads, RTE player, utube.

I will have to look into the possibility of getting bigger bills than expected, I dont believe this is the case. I will confirm this with Onwave in writing in the next couple of day and report back, thanks.

jupiter00

I am reading these posts and getting worried about Q sat already. We've had no BB for months and now its our last resort, no BB here and we are only 20 miles from Cork city, the line of site BB stopped working here so its great to be back on line again. We got the 30 euro package but how long before we have to upgrade as I'm no techie. My children use you tube a bit, we buy music from itunes but no movie downloads or gaming, just surfing really. We'll find out soon enough, does anyone know what happens when you use up your 'allowance'