Would you like to go back to the boom era?

7sr2z3fely84g5

When the country was booming,loads of jobs,houses being built,everyone was happy?.

FatherLen

yeah sure, why not?

Kevin Duffy

If we went back to it from where we are now, we'd prolong the problem and be in a worse mess in 5, 10, 20 years....at which point the problem would be so big we'd collapse and start again from scratch, so yes, let's do that.

stargazer 68

We will return to that at some point but, like the last time, lessons won't be learned and we will be back here again!

Monty Burnz

The boom was a fantasy - we were living on our future income. The longer the bubble went on, the worse the crisis when it ended.

ronan45

Langston Defeated Horsefly wrote: »

When the country was booming,loads of jobs,houses being built,everyone was happy?.

Howard........... Are you a banker?:eek:

Eve_Dublin

Good question!

Somedays I pine for the old times (being able to get a decent job at home) but knowing what I know now, no.

inforfun

Naaah.
I didnt like the arrogance of a lot of the Irish when they thought they had money.

Hannibal Smith

hmmm I don't think so...I had an absolute ball of a time during the boom, had loads of cash, went on great holidays was out most nights of the week. But life moves on. I'm happy with how things are now, work isn't so stressful, people aren't so demanding, I'm settled into my three day week.

Frank Black

In a heartbeat.
Of course it was all an illusion and some of the things we aspired to and believed in seem a bit ridiculous now - but it was great fun at the time

Blazer

god no....I'm still living the grand old life while all the people who were telling me to buy a house etc and settle down are all struggling..
Who's looking down their fúckin nose now?

ronan45

Sc@recrow wrote: »

god no....I'm still living the grand old life while all the people who were telling me to buy a house etc and settle down are all struggling..
Who's looking down their fúckin nose now?

ME:D

ejmaztec

If it meant going back in a time-machine, I'd go back with a gun and shoot the ones who fucked it up. I'd make certain that I had plenty ammo.

7sr2z3fely84g5

Sc@recrow wrote: »

god no....I'm still living the grand old life while all the people who were telling me to buy a house etc and settle down are all struggling..
Who's looking down their fúckin nose now?

Yeah but joe i got cut in my salary and them bankers are getting away with it joe and them ones got us here...

jimthemental

inforfun wrote: »

Naaah.
I didnt like the arrogance of a lot of the Irish when they thought they had money.

I'd nearly rather some of the arrogance back instead of the crippling depression. Talking to Irish people now is like pulling teeth from someone who's too busy crying into their overpriced pint to open their mouth.

Blazer

jimthemental wrote: »

I'd nearly rather some of the arrogance back instead of the crippling depression. Talking to Irish people now is like pulling teeth from someone who's too busy crying into their overpriced pint to open their mouth.

true I suppose...I'm tired of listening to people whining about their lives..it was a lot better when everyone had unlimited credit and buy whatever they wanted...
at least the radio/tv/conversations were a hell of a lot more entertaining..

ronan45

ejmaztec wrote: »

If it meant going back in a time-machine, I'd go back with a gun and shoot the ones who fucked it up. I'd make certain that I had plenty ammo.

Great Scott!

If my calculations are correct, when this thread hits eighty-eight messages, you're going to see some serious do do

Wicklowrider

ronan45 wrote: »

ME:D

Ronan - as in Johnny by any chance?

Bandana boy

I like (I suspect) many others actualy am doing better in the Down time than the boom time.
During the boom time in my industry it was hard to have your pay keep pace with inflation. My industry is motoring along nicely now and while extra taxs etc have a deflationary aspect to take home pay the cost of everything else has gotten much cheaper and I feel I have mopre financial security today than in 2006.

py2006

Well I definitely wouldn't buy a house!

Caraville

No, definitely not- this was the time when:

- Everyone was a property expert and houses were at ridiculous prices
- Way too many people going around driving off-road vehicles but yet only used them for a school run or doing the shopping.
- It wasn't good for young people being born into this time, not knowing the value of things. I'm glad I was born in the 80s anyway, that's for sure.

Radiotower

Bandana boy wrote: »

I like (I suspect) many others actualy am doing better in the Down time than the boom time.
During the boom time in my industry it was hard to have your pay keep pace with inflation. My industry is motoring along nicely now and while extra taxs etc have a deflationary aspect to take home pay the cost of everything else has gotten much cheaper and I feel I have mopre financial security today than in 2006.

Diesel more expensive
Car insurance more expensive
Health insurance more expensive
Gas & Electric rising again
TV Licence more expensive
Tolls more expensive
Higher interest rates
Higher taxes. levies
Reduced salaries
New bank charges

Granted food, drink and clothes are cheaper now but overall I'd rather be back in the boom times - I never bought and never had intention to at those prices - always wanted to build which now is a good time except the banks wont give the money out!!

bluefinger

no, if only so i don't have to be confronted by shíte like i'm an adult get me out of here. what a smug dangerous príck he was.

Bandana boy

Radiotower wrote: »

Diesel more expensive
Car insurance more expensive-Not for me
Health insurance more expensive-Not for me
Gas & Electric rising again I am paying less than 2006,although that might change in the near future
TV Licence more expensive True
Tolls more expensive -Same price as 2006 for me and I use it twice every day
Higher interest rates Actually lower than 2006/7 ,although on the increase
Higher taxes. levies Very True
Reduced salaries Not true for my industry

Granted food, drink and clothes are cheaper now but overall I'd rather be back in the boom times - I never bought and never had intention to at those prices - always wanted to build which now is a good time except the banks wont give the money out!!

Industry specific I am sure ,but I know many others in the same boat as me who actually feel more in control now than from 2002-2007

TheMrs

I wouldn't like to go back to overinflated houseprices where your garden shed could fetch €100,000 and developers were building anywhere and everywhere with little or no infra structure in place for these 'villages' or estates. Although I would love to go back to having some sense of job stability and there being a job market out there. So many people I know are either out of work or stuck in a rut because they didn't take the leap sooner and now they can't change jobs or career paths.

I'd like a pinch of the old times but with a bit more cop on.

foxyboxer

Certainly not, I'm enjoying my sense of Schadenfreude too much. Mwuahahahahaha.

Acoshla

Definitely not, I had endless crap retail jobs, paid huge rent and city centre prices for nights out, food, etc. Now I work for myself and have low rent, spend very little on nights out and splashing out on gorgeous meals is much easier to do than the pretentious expensive options that were around a few years ago.

I never did the big car/big car loan, buying lots of stuff thing thank God, so I'm glad everyone else is more realistic now, my little 10 year old car isn't alone anymore!

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Bit of a loaded question there OP...

Liam Byrne

Jairo Muscular Savings wrote: »

Bit of a loaded question there OP...

Precisely.

If it was phrased correctly it would be "Would you like to go back to the bubble?"

previous user

Even though I didn't have much money in the Boom times
there was generally a good feeling knocking about and alot
more freedom to move from job to job which was nice, shame
that aspect of it had to end.

inforfun

Radiotower wrote: »

TV Licence more expensive

Completely different discussion but this should never have been a problem for anyone. No one should pay for a tv license.
I don't pay for the simple reason that it goes, for the most part, to a company who also get their money from advertising every ****ing 15 minutes during their programs. Dont interrupt your programs and i might start paying.

smash

I'd go back and sell my house!

Jarren

eh,nope

I mean those days you can event get an apt for free



THEY once had a price tag of almost €1.5m each but now a set of luxury apartments nestled in the foothills of the Dublin Mountains are being sold for an average of just €177,500.

And instead of attracting Celtic Tiger cubs, some of the high-end dwellings are being set aside for social housing.

A total of 58 apartments in the Beacon South Quarter, Sandyford, which are in NAMA, have been purchased by the voluntary housing body Cluid.

The apartments, which were built at the height of the boom, have views over Dublin and are serviced by the M50 and the Luas.

Receiver

They were bought from a receiver appointed by NAMA to the development company Landmark Enterprises.

It is the first such deal between NAMA and a voluntary body and will see 34 of the apartments going to people on the social housing list for Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown local authority.

The remaining 24 will be rented through the private market.

Three-quarters of the €10.3m needed to purchase the apartments was provided by the State-owned Housing Finance Agency (HFA).

The rest of the funding came from Cluid's own resources and the Capital Advance Leasing Facility (CALF), a new facility created to support the acquisition of new homes using funding from financial institutions.

Cluid director of operations Neil Bolton said the deal represented a sea change in how social housing was funded.

"In the past, it was the norm for projects developed by voluntary bodies like Cluid to be 100pc grant-funded through Exchequer sources, but this is no longer an option," he revealed.

"The recession has forced us to explore different ways to fund the delivery of new social housing. Public funds are extremely scarce, but demand for social housing continues to grow."

The new occupants of the Beacon South Quarter apartments will receive the keys for their homes in the autumn.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/luxury-flats-to-be-set-aside-for-social-housing-2833257.html

cowzerp

Yeah and then i would not have spent double the money my house is worth!!

yogimotorsport

Ah the boom in Ireland a wise man once referred it to me as....
Buying things you dont need,
With money you dont have,
To impress people you dont even like

And no i wouldnt like a return to the boom

No way.. I got out of the country with a wad of cash in my backpocket because of the crash.

Rabidlamb

Over 50% of people would return, good god, Isn't there a saying about history repeating itself.
Sure, everyone had a well paying job but it was secured on an oversupply of esy credit fueling a fake state.
Arrrrrr me soft landing, where are you ?.

FloatingVoter

Nope, I was broke then watching my classmates pass me by on the property ladder etc. Now I'm still broke but they've got less than nothing. Its called taking pleasure in others misery (yup, I know, schadenfreude) but I owe them one.:D

saywhatyousee

I love reading these threads it just goes to show how jealous everyone else is of people with a bit of success.Of course in typical internet fashion everyone who did well in the "boom" is now broke while everyone on boards shoes are paved with gold.These threads are good if you like reading bull**** or things that did not happen

Liam Byrne

saywhatyousee wrote: »

I love reading these threads it just goes to show how jealous everyone else is of people with a bit of success.

What are you on about ?

I've no jealousy of anyone's actual success.

I have a major issue with someone like Johnny Ronan or Seanie Fitz or Bertie Ahern swanning around as if they were a "success".

And I have an even larger issue when they swindle us into footing the bill for keeping them in their unearned and unwarranted lifestyle.

Can you even name someone bubble-related who was an actual success in the boom ? Someone that wasn't gambling like f**k behind the scenes and putting on a faux air of respectability.

Teyla Emmagan

Yes, I loved it. I had LOTS OF CASH!!!!!

stovelid

jarecki1976 wrote: »

I mean those days you can event get an apt for free

I'm not sure you've grasped the concept of social housing?

kkdela6

i made shag all money back then and i make shag all money now - but at least now everyone else is in the same boat too

RedXIV

I was a student in the boom so pretty much broke. I now have a full time job and my own place post boom. I'm happy here

saywhatyousee

Liam Byrne wrote: »

What are you on about ?

I've no jealousy of anyone's actual success.

I have a major issue with someone like Johnny Ronan or Seanie Fitz or Bertie Ahern swanning around as if they were a "success".

And I have an even larger issue when they swindle us into footing the bill for keeping them in their unearned and unwarranted lifestyle.

Can you even name someone bubble-related who was an actual success in the boom ? Someone that wasn't gambling like f**k behind the scenes and putting on a faux air of respectability.

Was'nt Johnny Ronan going out with Rosanna Davidson for a while?If thats not sucess i dont know what is:pac:

goat2

not a hope, but wish we were not in such debt,
i remember going to the school with my children in a small car, could not find parking on a bad morning, with all these big leather clad jeeps and family carriers owned by people with just one or two children while i had four, then the supermarket, the spaces on the carparks were not big enough for most of them, i could not see my little beamer in the middle of it all, madness, every room in most houses were ensuite, while there were six and seven bedroomed houses built by couples with one or two children, how many beds do we sleep in at one time, and how many baths do we wash in at one time, there was more money than sense, now they have no money but learned a bit of sense,

gracehopper

I'd go back to the boom era and then sell my apartment for 350k and then come back to now and act fashionably modest while secretly having loads of spare dosh in the bank.

7sr2z3fely84g5

goat2 wrote: »

with all these big leather clad jeeps and family carriers owned by people with just one or two children

That still goes on,parking right outside the school holding up traffic so their little darlings dont have to walk far.

Sky King

No.

Bars and Clubs got very up their own holes - 15 pounds in for a crappy night out with awful music and a fiver a beer etc.

I prefer cans at home and a selection of good value events to go to when I do go out.

goat2

Langston Defeated Horsefly wrote: »

That still goes on,parking right outside the school holding up traffic so their little darlings dont have to walk far.

and to make it worse, these are the same generation who are supposed to help get this country back in track, if they could not be bothered walking a few extra steps now, what will they do in the future, god help us all

Richard Hillman

Yes i would go back. I kinda liked that unemployment was only around 4.5% back then rather than 15%