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Do you go to mass?

  • 26-07-2011 1:54pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭


    Okay maybe it's a pointless thread but all this debate on the church at the minute I am curious to know if people still go to mass or not.
    The catholic church has been getting bad press for many years so have you given up on religion or not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Another one. FFS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,473 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    purity wrote: »
    Okay maybe it's a pointless thread but all this debate on the church at the minute I am curious to know if people still go to mass or not.
    The catholic church has been getting bad press for many years so have you given up on religion or not.

    gave up at about 14 when I realised it was all a crock of shíte and I didn't believe a word of it...
    Went to the pub instead and played pool etc for the hour that mass was on..then head home and make some crap up for the mother to let on I was there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    purity wrote: »
    The catholic church has been getting bad press for many years so have you given up on religion or not.

    Religion was lost on me even before my mother gave me the choice of not going.

    It's very strange going to mass and just listening to the drone of the sheeple repeating prayers that they hammered in to their subconscious and not stopping to think what they mean.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭few cans?


    I was forced to go to mass for years and years and it was that reason alone that i never set foot in their again once i left home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭LisaLee


    No, the only times I enter a church is for a funeral, wedding, baptism etc.

    Apart from that, no. I have no interest in attending mass as I'm not a practicing Catholic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    purity wrote: »
    Okay maybe it's a pointless thread but all this debate on the church at the minute I am curious to know if people still go to mass or not.
    The catholic church has been getting bad press for many years so have you given up on religion or not.

    So you only want catholics to answer?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Why go to church when god is all around us...

    Oh wait, it's so they can take your moneyz!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Same answer as all the other threads.
    Weddings, funerals, Christmas.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    only go to memorial masses for people i knew out of respect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    As an atheist, I only ever attend mass for funerals and weddings and the like, and I'm always amazed at being the only one who actually listens to what the priest is saying.

    I was at a funeral a while back, and the priest came pretty close to anti-semitism in his sermon, but when I asked people about it afterwards, they looked at me strangely, and told me they hadn't been listening. The only other person who heard was a fellow atheist!

    It's odd though, but I was the same when I was a Catholic, or more precisely, when my mother inisted I was a Catholic. I'd go into this catatonic state at the back of the church, and only wake up at "Thanks be to God". Now though, mass is far more interesting and engaging to me (well, relatively speaking).

    I think mass is just another one of those things where so-called Catholics go through the motions of their faith, and then return to their largely secular lives, with not a p thought about religion until the next Sunday. Not all Catholics obviously, but a large proposrtion of them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    If only we had a religion forum to discuss all these matters....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I worship big walls of sound


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Nope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Not any more no, and haven't for a few years, mainly out of laziness, favorite priest moved to a different parish a while back too, fierce smart man, he had fascinating sermons, not banging on about god, but he would throw history and philosophy in there too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,731 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    keano_afc wrote: »
    If only we had a religion forum to discuss all these matters....

    F*cking hell...

    Which religion forum would you get unbiased answers from? The majority in Christianity probably go to Mass regularly. The majority in Atheism & Agnosticism probably don't. Here, you can get answers from both, as well as those who generally don't go out of their way to discuss religion but could answer here.


    No, don't go to Mass bar occasions. Even if I have to give my mother a lift to Mass, I stay in the car.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    i stopped after my parents and nan stopped making me.


    they werent even bloody religious! well my nan was.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    No. I will attend a funeral once the coffin exits a church - but I will never set foot in a church ever again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Biggins wrote: »
    No. I will attend a funeral once the coffin exits a church - but I will never set foot in a church ever again.
    I assume you would make an exception if your kids get married in one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭Demonique


    few cans? wrote: »
    I was forced to go to mass for years and years and it was that reason alone that i never set foot in their again once i left home

    Same here, only I go for weddings, funerals and christenings, but that's about it


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    I assume you would make an exception if your kids get married in one!
    No.
    I have already turned down attendance of my sister child's christening this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭Demonique


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    I assume you would make an exception if your kids get married in one!

    I'd assume that poster's kids (if they even have them) will be raised in such a way that they won't be interested in having a church wedding
    Biggins wrote: »
    No.
    I have already turned down attendance of my sister child's christening this week.

    So how well did that go down?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Yes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Demonique wrote: »
    So how well did that go down?
    They understand my reasons. After that, they can either accept my position, disagree with it (if they wish) - but whatever way they take it, they know they won't be changing my mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Demonique wrote: »
    I'd assume that poster's kids (if they even have them) will be raised in such a way that they won't be interested in having a church wedding



    So how well did that go down?
    I doubt Biggins would indoctrinate his kids one way or another, he seems the type who would let them make up their own minds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Biggins wrote: »
    No.
    I have already turned down attendance of my sister child's christening this week.

    Is that not a tad extreme?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭The Internet Explorer


    "This fine land may be a sh*thole at times, but it is quite refreshing to see so many of our people finally distance themselves from this old and bullsh*t institution"
    The Internet Explorer
    The Internet 26/07/2011


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Einhard wrote: »
    Is that not a tad extreme?
    That was my thought, I'd just go anyway, I wouldn't like to miss out on important events like that, or weddings etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 526 ✭✭✭7Sins


    Nope, I've no interest in getting out of bed early on a Sunday morning to listen to some middle aged virgin bang on about how great things are in the next world when everthing is perfectly fine here :D:D:D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Forest Master


    purity wrote: »
    Okay maybe it's a pointless thread but all this debate on the church at the minute I am curious to know if people still go to mass or not.
    The catholic church has been getting bad press for many years so have you given up on religion or not.

    As if your topic wasn't sh*t enough, you didn't even bother putting up a simple Yes/No poll.

    Double fail.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Einhard wrote: »
    Is that not a tad extreme?
    No - I won't be a hypocrite.
    If you have nothing but dislike for an organisation, believe that its corrupt to the core, that its interested in only quietly (and sometimes openly) advocating its own position to the advantage of gaining profit, positions of power and influence, etc over those it considers and treats as lesser mortals, advocates peace and love but does the exact opposite in actual real actions - then NO - I will not be a hypocrite and set foot in one of their org's building just because it suits me temporarily.

    Setting foot across their threashold is advocating that "well, I'll accept them for the moment 'cos this is a special case..."
    I don't.
    They are what they are and I want NOTHING to do with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Biggins wrote: »
    They understand my reasons. After that, they can either accept my position, disagree with it (if they wish) - but whatever way they take it, they know they won't be changing my mind.

    Not an à la carte atheist then Biggins?

    Fair play.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Biggins wrote: »
    No - I won't be a hypocrite.
    If you have nothing but dislike for an organisation, believe that its corrupt to the core, that its interested in only quietly (and sometimes openly) advocating its own position to the advantage of gaining profit, positions of power and influence, etc over those it considers and treats as lesser mortals, advocates peace and love but does the exact opposite in actual real actions - then NO - I will not be a hypocrite and set foot in one of their org's building just because it suits me temporarily.

    Setting foot across their threashold is advocating that "well, I'll accept them for the moment 'cos this is a special case..."
    I don't.
    They are what they are and I want NOTHING to do with them.
    I can think of a number of parishes in your area who advocate peace and love and act in a similar way tbf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    I don't go to mass (I'm not a Roman Catholic), but I go to church pretty much weekly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Yes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭Einhard


    Biggins wrote: »
    No - I won't be a hypocrite.
    If you have nothing but dislike for an organisation, believe that its corrupt to the core, that its interested in only quietly (and sometimes openly) advocating its own position to the advantage of gaining profit, positions of power and influence, etc over those it considers and treats as lesser mortals, advocates peace and love but does the exact opposite in actual real actions - then NO - I will not be a hypocrite and set foot in one of their org's building just because it suits me temporarily.

    Setting foot across their threashold is advocating that "well, I'll accept them for the moment 'cos this is a special case..."
    I don't.
    They are what they are and I want NOTHING to do with them.

    Fair enough, but I'd be of the view that the entire organisation, and all its clergy aren't guilty of the crimes and the cover ups, and therefore wouldn't have a problem with attending some events in a Church or similar building. I'm an atheist, but I can't subscribe to this notion that the Catholic Church has only ever been bad for Ireland, and that no good has come from the organisation.

    My parish has built a new community hall and retirement village recently. I think that's a great thing, and adds to the local area. They didn't seek recognition for it, and the development certainly won't be taken into account when people speak of compensation from the Church, but if we're to have a balanced debate, they should be.

    Incidentally, would you attend a function at said community centre, or visit a relative in said retirement village?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    If some one new signed up, they would think they are in the religious part of the forum ::pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Einhard wrote: »
    ...Incidentally, would you attend a function at said community centre, or visit a relative in said retirement village?
    I would if the centre or retirement village had nothing to do with the Rome organisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    I only go to church for the death or anniversaries of people close to me (or relatives of them) I hate the culture of going to funeral homes etc though. There are so many people who seem to live for it and go to as many as possible, even people who they hardly knew. It just irks me for some reason.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    pragmatic1 wrote: »
    Another one. FFS.

    I think this is the general sentiment... In the light of the large amount of threads already discussing religion it might be best to stave off on others right now.


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