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  • 26-07-2011 9:33am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭


    Hi all. I was wondering does anyone here know if we are still allowed to cross our arms while turning the steering wheel? I was told by my instructor that it doesn't matter as long as you get the turn done safely. But my cousin's instructor said you have to feed it through you hands, ie no crossing your arms.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    T4RGET wrote: »
    Hi all. I was wondering does anyone here know if we are still allowed to cross our arms while turning the steering wheel? I was told by my instructor that it doesn't matter as long as you get the turn done safely. But my cousin's instructor said you have to feed it through you hands, ie no crossing your arms.

    Feed it! don't cross your arms! Even if your instructor says its ok, your examiner might disagree. Feed it and be safe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭Dermo


    I was always told to feed. Never cross your arms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    Feeding the steering wheel is a safer method of driving than crossing arms. Feeding takes two motions for 1 revolution, crossing arms usually takes 3. Wouldn't worry about it too much if you do it one or twice during test but if it's your standard method of driving, it looks panicy and like you are not in control. Safer to feed, when you have your licence you can do what you like (obviouly within the Rules of the Road).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭T4RGET


    thanks everyone, i have been crossing my arms since i started so gona be hard to break the habit. better try though :o


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    I was told feeding is better, but crossing is ok for slow tight manouvering (turnabout, reverse around corner etc)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭T4RGET


    stevenmu wrote: »
    I was told feeding is better, but crossing is ok for slow tight manouvering (turnabout, reverse around corner etc)

    yeah did that today :) feeding at corners and for manouvers i crossed didn't say anything so it's all good :) didn't pass but nearly there, did better than i did with the mock test with my instructor on friday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 296 ✭✭looky loo


    my driving instructor use to always say....'feed the wheel, feed the wheel'...it is tattooed in my brain now......and ten to two, twenty to four position for the hands. Always use the mirrors...they look for that in test. Make it obvious you're looking in them too...good luck.:)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


    Yes, definitely push-pull steering. It's a good habit to get into (and seriously, don't worry, it won't take long to change your steering habits). Make sure to always start steering by pulling, it makes it smoother - it's actually the recommended method of steering for Roadcraft (the method of driving that police drivers use) - with the exception of very high speed or very low speed manouvres (e.g parking), in which case it's ok to cross your arms.

    Remember, when straightening the steering wheel after turning, not to release your hands and let it spin back, do the exact opposite of what you did to get it in a turned position. It looks very panicky and uncontrolled to let the steering wheel spin back into place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭daveharnett


    looky loo wrote: »
    ten to two
    Since the advent of airbags, plenty of people are recommending 9-3 or even 8-4. Haven't seen any concrete evidence, but the suggestion is that holding the wheel lower down could reduce the risk of wrist/arm injuries if the airbag deploys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,340 CMod ✭✭✭✭Davy


    Since the advent of airbags, plenty of people are recommending 9-3 or even 8-4. Haven't seen any concrete evidence, but the suggestion is that holding the wheel lower down could reduce the risk of wrist/arm injuries if the airbag deploys.

    Not sure i would agree. Whatever about 9 and 3, but not 8 and 4. 99.9% of the time the air bag wont be deployed, and you will have best control during that time with 10 and 2. Plan to avoid having to use the airbag, rather than planning for something that may never happen.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭**Timbuk2**


    My instructor always told me that hand position can either be 10 to 2, or quarter to 3 (or "9 and 3"), it doesn't matter and that either are acceptable for test purposes. I'm not sure which is the most airbag-friendly position but if the airbags were to deploy, arm position would be the last thing I'd be worrying about!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭eor123


    Remember, when straightening the steering wheel after turning, not to release your hands and let it spin back, do the exact opposite of what you did to get it in a turned position. It looks very panicky and uncontrolled to let the steering wheel spin back into place.

    I find it really hard to not leave the wheel spin back in normal circumstances.. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    eor123 wrote: »
    I find it really hard to not leave the wheel spin back in normal circumstances.. :confused:


    I have always let the wheel spin back and my instructor never said anything about it. I got my test in like 3 hours, I doubt they will mark me down on doing just that.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    I'm afraid they easily could, by letting it spin back you're releasing positive control of the wheel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭loobylou


    My instructor always told me that hand position can either be 10 to 2, or quarter to 3 (or "9 and 3"), it doesn't matter and that either are acceptable for test purposes. I'm not sure which is the most airbag-friendly position but if the airbags were to deploy, arm position would be the last thing I'd be worrying about!

    Its not so as to be "airbag-friendly", its because if you are holding the wheel too high and the airbag deploys there is a very high probability of you being injured by your own hands/forearms being thrust up into your face.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭eor123


    cocoshovel wrote: »
    I have always let the wheel spin back and my instructor never said anything about it. I got my test in like 3 hours, I doubt they will mark me down on doing just that.

    How did you get on?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    eor123 wrote: »
    How did you get on?


    Fail :)

    1 grade 2 for steering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭eor123


    cocoshovel wrote: »
    Fail :)

    1 grade 2 for steering.

    Sorry to hear, you must be fair dissappointed! :(

    Is a grade 2 the mediokre mistake, you can get max of 6 or something is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    eor123 wrote: »
    Sorry to hear, you must be fair dissappointed! :(

    Is a grade 2 the mediokre mistake, you can get max of 6 or something is it?

    maximum of 9 in total.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭MascotDec85


    cocoshovel wrote: »
    maximum of 9 in total.

    Maximum of 8 to pass

    9 or more is a fail or 4 Grade 2's for a single aspect eg. Steering or 6 Grade 2's under one heading eg. Observation


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