Hurling All-Stars

Fergus_Nash

Just thought that I would start a thread on this before the Quarter Finals.

1. Brendan Cummins – a class act.
2. Paul Murphy – has had an excellent year so far and if he can continue with it then there’s no reason why not.
3. Paul Curran – a solid rock in a position where there have been no standout players.
4. Michael Cahill – haven’t really heard of him all season. The best compliment you can pay a corner back
5. Tommy Walsh – one more performance and he’s a certainty.
6. Liam Rushe – amazing versus Galway in this position and I think he deserves to be somewhere in the team.
7. Padraic Maher – sheer class.
8. Shane McGrath – excellent year so far.
9. Michael Fennelly – brings a lot of stability to the Kilkenny team.
10. Conal Keaney – what more can you say about this man.
11. Michael Rice – standout forward for Kilkenny this year.
12. Patrick Maher – architect-in-chief for all things good in Tipperary hurling.
13. Lar Corbett – do I have to explain this choice?
14. Joe Canning – well on his way to one if he can continue with the way he has been playing in the last two matches.
15. Paul Ryan – main scorer for Dublin but may lose out.

I think 5 to 13 will definitely be chosen. Just thinking about who is missing out – Brian Hogan (Kk), Alan McCrabbe (Dub), King Henry, Eoin Kelly (Tipp), Kevin Downes (Lim) – really shows how good the hurling has been this year.

Half of you will say that this is far too early in the year to start a thread on this. 49% will have another team. The rest will totally agree:D

eigrod

Fergus_Nash wrote: »

Just thought that I would start a thread on this before the Quarter Finals.

1. Brendan Cummins – a class act.
2. Paul Murphy – has had an excellent year so far and if he can continue with it then there’s no reason why not.
3. Paul Curran – a solid rock in a position where there have been no standout players.
4. Michael Cahill – haven’t really heard of him all season. The best compliment you can pay a corner back
5. Tommy Walsh – one more performance and he’s a certainty.
6. Liam Rushe – amazing versus Galway in this position and I think he deserves to be somewhere in the team.
7. Padraic Maher – sheer class.
8. Shane McGrath – excellent year so far.
9. Michael Fennelly – brings a lot of stability to the Kilkenny team.
10. Conal Keaney – what more can you say about this man.
11. Michael Rice – standout forward for Kilkenny this year.
12. Patrick Maher – architect-in-chief for all things good in Tipperary hurling.
13. Lar Corbett – do I have to explain this choice?
14. Joe Canning – well on his way to one if he can continue with the way he has been playing in the last two matches.
15. Paul Ryan – main scorer for Dublin but may lose out.

I think 5 to 13 will definitely be chosen. Just thinking about who is missing out – Brian Hogan (Kk), Alan McCrabbe (Dub), King Henry, Eoin Kelly (Tipp), Kevin Downes (Lim) – really shows how good the hurling has been this year.

Half of you will say that this is far too early in the year to start a thread on this. 49% will have another team. The rest will totally agree:D

Not sure Keaney will get it now that he's going to miss the business end of the season. If Shefflin plays to half his capacity in the last 2 games, he'll walk on to it.

Skyrim

Seamus Callinan is worth a mention too. Shefflin and Walsh will be there if they keep their form up.

Clemon

Fergus_Nash wrote: »

Just thought that I would start a thread on this before the Quarter Finals.

1. Brendan Cummins – a class act.
2. Paul Murphy – has had an excellent year so far and if he can continue with it then there’s no reason why not.
3. Paul Curran – a solid rock in a position where there have been no standout players.
4. Michael Cahill – haven’t really heard of him all season. The best compliment you can pay a corner back
5. Tommy Walsh – one more performance and he’s a certainty.
6. Liam Rushe – amazing versus Galway in this position and I think he deserves to be somewhere in the team.
7. Padraic Maher – sheer class.
8. Shane McGrath – excellent year so far.
9. Michael Fennelly – brings a lot of stability to the Kilkenny team.
10. Conal Keaney – what more can you say about this man.
11. Michael Rice – standout forward for Kilkenny this year.
12. Patrick Maher – architect-in-chief for all things good in Tipperary hurling.
13. Lar Corbett – do I have to explain this choice?
14. Joe Canning – well on his way to one if he can continue with the way he has been playing in the last two matches.
15. Paul Ryan – main scorer for Dublin but may lose out.

I think 5 to 13 will definitely be chosen. Just thinking about who is missing out – Brian Hogan (Kk), Alan McCrabbe (Dub), King Henry, Eoin Kelly (Tipp), Kevin Downes (Lim) – really shows how good the hurling has been this year.

Half of you will say that this is far too early in the year to start a thread on this. 49% will have another team. The rest will totally agree:D

Joe Canning hasnt even been galway's best player never mind all star worthy.

Damien Hayes and Ger Farragher will be very hard done by if they wernt in all star contention . Hayes for canning and farragher for paul ryan.

David Collins(Corner Back) and Andy Smith (Midfield) will be in contention if they keep performing the way they are. Thats all i can say from a galway perspectiv having gone to every galway game this year. Cant argue with the rest of the selection although i think if Eoin Cadogan got a good run at the championship he would have an all star at fb. Cleaned Joe canning in the cork match for the first 50 minutes

Fireball07

It is a bit early to be deciding this as nearly always it's performances from the quarter-finals on, plus the provincial finals, that decide the All-Stars.

But, so far, that would seem to be right.


From a Limerick perspective Kevin Downes, Declan Hannon, Donal O'Grady and Tom Condon are all in contention for at least nominations. If we win against Dublin, then definitely.

Kojak

Eoin Kelly for Tipp will probably end up with an award this year.

If Waterford win on Sunday, I'd say that Brick Walsh will be very close to gaining another All-Star.

Its a bit early to be predicting this list yet as the majority of the recipients will come from the AI finalists.

Mountainlad

Fergus_Nash wrote: »

Just thought that I would start a thread on this before the Quarter Finals.

1. Brendan Cummins – a class act.
2. Paul Murphy – has had an excellent year so far and if he can continue with it then there’s no reason why not.
3. Paul Curran – a solid rock in a position where there have been no standout players.
4. Michael Cahill – haven’t really heard of him all season. The best compliment you can pay a corner back
5. Tommy Walsh – one more performance and he’s a certainty.
6. Liam Rushe – amazing versus Galway in this position and I think he deserves to be somewhere in the team.
7. Padraic Maher – sheer class.
8. Shane McGrath – excellent year so far.
9. Michael Fennelly – brings a lot of stability to the Kilkenny team.
10. Conal Keaney – what more can you say about this man.
11. Michael Rice – standout forward for Kilkenny this year.
12. Patrick Maher – architect-in-chief for all things good in Tipperary hurling.
13. Lar Corbett – do I have to explain this choice?
14. Joe Canning – well on his way to one if he can continue with the way he has been playing in the last two matches.
15. Paul Ryan – main scorer for Dublin but may lose out.

I think 5 to 13 will definitely be chosen. Just thinking about who is missing out – Brian Hogan (Kk), Alan McCrabbe (Dub), King Henry, Eoin Kelly (Tipp), Kevin Downes (Lim) – really shows how good the hurling has been this year.

Half of you will say that this is far too early in the year to start a thread on this. 49% will have another team. The rest will totally agree:D

Brick was in contention until Fitzgerald decided he didn't like seeing him play well, or whatever it is he was hoping for. Think Paudie Mahony is in for a nomination but won't make the team, and outside of that there's no real prospects for any Waterford players at the minute, though might change Sunday.

I'd have Paddy Stapleton in the full back line as he marked Mullane. If Dublin lose to Limerick it would be hard to see Rushe getting one but he might. Michael Fennelly is a shoe in for me if he plays anything near like he played against Dublin in the next game. Conal Keaney to me shouldn't be in it, Shefflin is much more worthy, also Michael Rice suprises me I would have Ger Farragher in instead.

I don't think Alan McCrabbe is even worthy of a mention. I like Paul Ryan and he deserves to be in with a shout. Hayes is another viable option. Canning has recovered well, and is in good form. When he is playing well at all you can almost be certain he'll pick up an all-star. I suppose maybe Shane Walsh will have a shout here if he were to get some ball the next day and did damage, and Canning was kept quiet, but only if that were to happen.

hurlingmad81

Fergus_Nash wrote: »

Just thought that I would start a thread on this before the Quarter Finals.

1. Brendan Cummins – a class act.
2. Paul Murphy – has had an excellent year so far and if he can continue with it then there’s no reason why not.
3. Paul Curran – a solid rock in a position where there have been no standout players.
4. Michael Cahill – haven’t really heard of him all season. The best compliment you can pay a corner back
5. Tommy Walsh – one more performance and he’s a certainty.
6. Liam Rushe – amazing versus Galway in this position and I think he deserves to be somewhere in the team.
7. Padraic Maher – sheer class.
8. Shane McGrath – excellent year so far.
9. Michael Fennelly – brings a lot of stability to the Kilkenny team.
10. Conal Keaney – what more can you say about this man.
11. Michael Rice – standout forward for Kilkenny this year.
12. Patrick Maher – architect-in-chief for all things good in Tipperary hurling.
13. Lar Corbett – do I have to explain this choice?
14. Joe Canning – well on his way to one if he can continue with the way he has been playing in the last two matches.
15. Paul Ryan – main scorer for Dublin but may lose out.

I think 5 to 13 will definitely be chosen. Just thinking about who is missing out – Brian Hogan (Kk), Alan McCrabbe (Dub), King Henry, Eoin Kelly (Tipp), Kevin Downes (Lim) – really shows how good the hurling has been this year.

Half of you will say that this is far too early in the year to start a thread on this. 49% will have another team. The rest will totally agree:D

hard to argue with that team thus far. maybe callinan and downes might get in for rice and ryan. it will change though. business end of season starts now.

peabutler

Impossible to pick at this stage, i'd have Herity over Cummins based on games so far though.

LostBoy101

Skyrim wrote: »

Seamus Callinan is worth a mention too. Shefflin and Walsh will be there if they keep their form up.

Shefflin? your having a laugh he is not the player he used to be, he is a dirty snob.

LuckyGent88

LostBoy101 wrote: »

Shefflin? your having a laugh he is not the player he used to be, he is a dirty snob.

:D think i might save this comment for after the all-ireland semi & then final when Henry runs the show again.

Fireball07

LostBoy101 wrote: »

Shefflin? your having a laugh he is not the player he used to be, he is a dirty snob.

Pride Fighter

LostBoy101 wrote: »

Shefflin? your having a laugh he is not the player he used to be, he is a dirty snob.

Banned for 7 days.

Mod.

Sir Graball

Mountainlad wrote: »

I'd have Paddy Stapleton in the full back line as he marked Mullane. If Dublin lose to Limerick it would be hard to see Rushe getting one but he might. Michael Fennelly is a shoe in for me if he plays anything near like he played against Dublin in the next game. Conal Keaney to me shouldn't be in it, Shefflin is much more worthy, also Michael Rice suprises me I would have Ger Farragher in instead.


I don't think Alan McCrabbe is even worthy of a mention. I like Paul Ryan and he deserves to be in with a shout. Hayes is another viable option. Canning has recovered well, and is in good form. When he is playing well at all you can almost be certain he'll pick up an all-star. I suppose maybe Shane Walsh will have a shout here if he were to get some ball the next day and did damage, and Canning was kept quiet, but only if that were to happen.

I though Stapelton got a bit of a roasting early on against Cork. Rushe was kinda muscled out of it against Kilkenny. Hogan hasn't exactly lit up the no 6 but he's been solid enough esp against Wex might be one to watch there. Brick is still best bet though if they make semis ( which I doubt!!)


I agree about McCrabbe not a patch on last year! Shane Walsh has not lived up to the hype. Canning, Lar and Sheffs in the full forward line no question!!

Mountainlad

Sir Graball wrote: »

I though Stapelton got a bit of a roasting early on against Cork. Rushe was kinda muscled out of it against Kilkenny. Hogan hasn't exactly lit up the no 6 but he's been solid enough esp against Wex might be one to watch there. Brick is still best bet though if they make semis ( which I doubt!!)


I agree about McCrabbe not a patch on last year! Shane Walsh has not lived up to the hype. Canning, Lar and Sheffs in the full forward line no question!!

In fairness to him, there is only so much he can do when the backs are being destroyed and the half forward line and midfield cleaned out. He got maybe three balls against Tipp and one two I'd say. Against Limeirck he got very little service, about 5 or 6 balls and scored 1-1 and setup a point. He scored 3-14 in 5 matches in the league. If they just get decent ball and enough of it he can do serious damage.

Fergus_Nash

Yeah just thinking about it over the last few days, I'd probably swap Brain Hogan for Liam Rushe (I firmly believe that if Hogan had been playing in the All Ireland last year Kilkenny would have won but that's a discussion for another thread). Keaney will miss out now, which is very unlucky for him, because of the injury. Maybe Callinan will get his spot.

I don't think that any Kilkenny forward has really stood out in their two games except for Michael Rice. He is very industrious and does the same kind of job as Patrick Maher for Tipp and he knocks over a couple of points a game. I don't think Shefflin has really done anything amazing (don't get me wrong, his calming influence on the whole Kilkenny team is priceless) but he will probably sneak one over Paul Ryan by the end of the year.

And yes of course it does really depend on who wins the All Ireland but if the All Stars were picked now I'd go for the team above.

Mountainlad

Fergus_Nash wrote: »

Yeah just thinking about it over the last few days, I'd probably swap Brain Hogan for Liam Rushe (I firmly believe that if Hogan had been playing in the All Ireland last year Kilkenny would have won but that's a discussion for another thread). Keaney will miss out now, which is very unlucky for him, because of the injury. Maybe Callinan will get his spot.

I don't think that any Kilkenny forward has really stood out in their two games except for Michael Rice. He is very industrious and does the same kind of job as Patrick Maher for Tipp and he knocks over a couple of points a game. I don't think Shefflin has really done anything amazing (don't get me wrong, his calming influence on the whole Kilkenny team is priceless) but he will probably sneak one over Paul Ryan by the end of the year.

And yes of course it does really depend on who wins the All Ireland but if the All Stars were picked now i'd go for the team above.

Shane Walsh definetly has to come out into consideration, and Brick to. When he has played at centre back this year he has been immense.

Kojak

Mountainlad wrote: »

Shane Walsh definetly has to come out into consideration, and Brick to. When he has played at centre back this year he has been immense.

I'd say if ye (waterford) are looking for an All-Star, then look no further than Kevin Moran. He was Waterford's best player against Tipp while all around him everything was going wrong. He bet galway on his own today and if he plays ever at 50% of todays performance, he is a shoe-in for an award imo.

Mountainlad

Kojak wrote: »

I'd say if ye (waterford) are looking for an All-Star, then look no further than Kevin Moran. He was Waterford's best player against Tipp while all around him everything was going wrong. He bet galway on his own today and if he plays ever at 50% of todays performance, he is a shoe-in for an award imo.

Yeah he was great today. He was good second half against Tipp, but I don't think he was at much first half. And he was very quite v Limerick, though as I've been saying for a good while he was wasted at wing back and should have been midfield with Aiden Kearney wing back. Fennelly will surely be an all-star. After that, Shane McGrath is a possiblity, I suppose David Burke is definetly gone now, he was at nothing today. Who's Dublin's midfield?

Fireball07

Anyone think Hannon could be in with an outside chance?

A pity he missed the Waterford game but he was brilliant in the qualifiers and today he was top class. Some brilliant point-scoring from him.

I think Condon, O'Grady, Hannon and Downes should get nominations. Can only see 1 of them getting an actual award, and that would be tight at that.

But Hannon and Downes have to be contenders for Young Hurler of the Year. I know there are other players too, like Mahony and Rushe but they've got a good chance.

PARKHEAD67

The thing about all-stars is theres lots of players in weaker counties who might be good enough to be all-stars.We'll never know.Its always the Tipps,Corks, KKs. Theres lads in Kerry(the hurling area) for example who will never get a chance at glory, even though he could be good enough to play for neighbouring Cork.The All Stars is a bit of a joke really and is usually full of the All Ireland winners even though theres much better players plying their trade at counties that never get to Croke Park.

Mountainlad

PARKHEAD67 wrote: »

The thing about all-stars is theres lots of players in weaker counties who might be good enough to be all-stars.We'll never know.Its always the Tipps,Corks, KKs. Theres lads in Kerry(the hurling area) for example who will never get a chance at glory, even though he could be good enough to play for neighbouring Cork.The All Stars is a bit of a joke really and is usually full of the All Ireland winners even though theres much better players plying their trade at counties that never get to Croke Park.

I take your point to a certain extent but it's really a minority, and to say they're much better is certainly an exaggeration. There was a lad in Westmeath that was on the international shinty/hurling squad a few years ago, when they lost to Scotland in Nowlan Park. I know it's not quite hurling but he looked fierce good. But he is one of few.

As for Declan Hannon, he's an outstanding young player and will certainly be nominated, don't think he'll get one though there is a vacant spot in the half forward line at the moment. Young Player of the Year is between himself, Mahony and Rushe.

PARKHEAD67

Mountainlad wrote: »

I take your point to a certain extent but it's really a minority, and to say they're much better is certainly an exaggeration. There was a lad in Westmeath that was on the international shinty/hurling squad a few years ago, when they lost to Scotland in Nowlan Park. I know it's not quite hurling but he looked fierce good. But he is one of few.

As for Declan Hannon, he's an outstanding young player and will certainly be nominated, don't think he'll get one though there is a vacant spot in the half forward line at the moment. Young Player of the Year is between himself, Mahony and Rushe.

The Westmeath fella proves my point.The all-stars is just congratulating the best players from successful teams.Most of the time these players are deserving of the award.But theres lads in Kerry, Kildare etc who never get a look in.And believe me some of these players are good enough already to be all-star standard.If they were on Cork or KK panels, they would be all-stars.a lot of it is about what county your from.

Sir Graball

Fergus_Nash wrote: »

I don't think that any Kilkenny forward has really stood out in their two games except for Michael Rice.


I don't think Shefflin has really done anything amazing (don't get me wrong, his calming influence on the whole Kilkenny team is priceless) but he will probably sneak one over Paul Ryan by the end of the year.

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I'd say 1-18 in two games was pretty amazing!!


Richie Power has stood out. Ok he's not scoring a heap but his distribution and movement at center forward - his best position imo- had been excellent

Mountainlad

Sir Graball wrote: »

I'd say 1-18 in two games was pretty amazing!!


Richie Power has stood out. Ok he's not scoring a heap but his distribution and movement at center forward - his best position imo- had been excellent

Yeah and Shefflin won man of the match v Dublin (even though I thought it should have been Fennelly), and he often enjoys playing Waterford, so if he plays well against us then he's an absolute shoe in. Particularly after coming back from the cruciate injury.

Indie.

Mountainlad wrote: »

so if he plays well against us then he's an absolute shoe in. Particularly after coming back from the cruciate injury.

Dont think a good performance against Waterford will make him a "shoe in". Usually performances on All-Ireland day prove crucial.

Also dont know what relevance coming back from an injury has for him to be selected

SSK

From a Dublin POV, on the assumption that we are beaten by Tipp (I'm a realist ) I would say Maguire, Kelly, Rushe and Paul Ryan will be nominated. Most likely one of Keaney or ROD as well (Keaney if ROD has a quiet semi final)

All of the above have a chance depending on performances versus Tipp, but I would say Rushe should have one in the bag at this stage at wing forward. He's also a very live chance for YHOTY.

Mountainlad

Indie. wrote: »

Dont think a good performance against Waterford will make him a "shoe in". Usually performances on All-Ireland day prove crucial.

Also dont know what relevance coming back from an injury has for him to be selected

Hype, that's why coming back from an injury will play a role. Shefflin had one game (albeit a fantastic game) in 2009 and he got an all-star. Guarantee he will get an all-star if he plays well against us, because that will be two really good performances and I believe he did well enough v Wexford.

Eoin Larkin won hurler of the year predominantly because of his performance in the all-ireland semi final in 2008, though he was quite good in the final too.

ReacherCreature

Paul Ryan, Declan Hannon, Kevin Moran should definitely get mentions. Had Shane Dooley not been hurt and had a better team around him, he would've got a small mention. It would be a great service to the game if the "weaker" teams i.e not the final four, got all-stars. It would highlight the strength of the play nationwide.

Indie.

Mountainlad wrote: »

Guarantee he will get an all-star if he plays well against us,

What if Lar Corbett has a good semi final?.I would rate his performances higher than Shefflins with the 6-6 i think he has scored in 3 games.So does that guarantee him the spot then?

Its of my opinion anyway that it will take a savage performance on the first weekend in september to get the prize.

Mountainlad

Indie. wrote: »

What if Lar Corbett has a good semi final?.I would rate his performances higher than Shefflins with the 6-6 i think he has scored in 3 games.So does that guarantee him the spot then?

Its of my opinion anyway that it will take a savage performance on the first weekend in september to get the prize.

An all-star? I'm not talking about player of the year here. Lar already has his all-star, and he'll get it in the full forward line where as Shefflin will be half forward line.

Indie.

Mountainlad wrote: »

An all-star? I'm not talking about player of the year here. Lar already has his all-star, and he'll get it in the full forward line where as Shefflin will be half forward line.

Ya sorry got my lines mixed up there. Ya i agree one more good game should see Henry getting it

Mountainlad

ReacherCreature wrote: »

Paul Ryan, Declan Hannon, Kevin Moran should definitely get mentions. Had Shane Dooley not been hurt and had a better team around him, he would've got a small mention. It would be a great service to the game if the "weaker" teams i.e not the final four, got all-stars. It would highlight the strength of the play nationwide.

Yeah I didn't know Hannon scored 6 from play yesterday, he has a realistic chance.

The problem with giving them to weaker teams is that nobody knows exactly how good these players are. There is no doubt that the last four is the game at the highest level, and it really is only logical that the players that excel in these games get the awards.

Indie.

Mountainlad wrote: »

There is no doubt that the last four is the game at the highest level, and it really is only logical that the players that excel in these games get the awards.

Damien Hayes was the only player last year to make the all-star team having not played in the semi-finals

11 from the two finalists

Mountainlad

Indie. wrote: »

Damien Hayes was the only player last year to make the all-star team having not played in the semi-finals

11 from the two finalists

It'll be more or less along the same lines. Don't think Joe Canning will get one now. Hannon might. Outside of that I don't see any realistic winners.

Kojak

Mountainlad wrote: »

It'll be more or less along the same lines. Don't think Joe Canning will get one now. Hannon might. Outside of that I don't see any realistic winners.

Hannon will get a nomination for an All-Star award and the Young Hurler of the Year, but imo won't win either. Liam Rushe from Dublin is the front runner for young hurler of the year I think - think he will also win an All-Star.

puzl

tommy walsh, if he continues his form, will be a candidate for hurler of the year, never mind an all star.

I would like to see Kevin Moran nominate for waterford, along with brick of course.

And I think padraic o'mahony should get nominated for young hurler of the year. What a revelation he has been. Pure class, and only getting started. Who would have thought he would have made the transition to senior with so little effort.

SSK

puzl wrote: »

tommy walsh, if he continues his form, will be a candidate for hurler of the year, never mind an all star.

I would like to see Kevin Moran nominate for waterford, along with brick of course.

And I think padraic o'mahony should get nominated for young hurler of the year. What a revelation he has been. Pure class, and only getting started. Who would have thought he would have made the transition to senior with so little effort.

I'm not 100% sure on the criteria for young hurler but Noel McGrath and Padraic Maher will most likely get nominations if eligible. Rushe, Downes, Hannon, Mahoney and McGrath from Clare should all be in the hunt also.

Hurler of the Year will depend on the semi finals/final.

Mountainlad

SSK wrote: »

I'm not 100% sure on the criteria for young hurler but Noel McGrath and Padraic Maher will most likely get nominations if eligible. Rushe, Downes, Hannon, Mahoney and McGrath from Clare should all be in the hunt also.

Hurler of the Year will depend on the semi finals/final.

Padraic Maher is ineligible, you have to be u21. Noel McGrath hasn't been as good this year as he has been the past two years, so he isn't in my top three YET, but could certainly change all that with his undoubted quality. To me, Hannon, Rushe and Mahony are the top three at present. Downes and McGrath won't be nominated in my view. Also David Burke has fallne out of contention as he was anonymous on Sunday.

Temp Barry

SSK wrote: »

From a Dublin POV, on the assumption that we are beaten by Tipp (I'm a realist ) I would say Maguire, Kelly, Rushe and Paul Ryan will be nominated. Most likely one of Keaney or ROD as well (Keaney if ROD has a quiet semi final)

All of the above have a chance depending on performances versus Tipp, but I would say Rushe should have one in the bag at this stage at wing forward. He's also a very live chance for YHOTY.

Maguire, Corcoran, Kelly, Rushe, Keaney, O'Dwyer, Ryan to get nominations. Rushe should get the nod for one All Star, might get one or two more depending on performances v Tipp.

Mountainlad

Temp Barry wrote: »

Maguire, Corcoran, Kelly, Rushe, Keaney, O'Dwyer, Ryan to get nominations. Rushe should get the nod for one All Star, might get one or two more depending on performances v Tipp.

Can't see more than one all-star for Dublin, certainly not three. Think Paul Ryan might if he did well against Tipp don't see Ryan O Dwyer getting one.

Temp Barry

Mountainlad wrote: »

Can't see more than one all-star for Dublin, certainly not three. Think Paul Ryan might if he did well against Tipp don't see Ryan O Dwyer getting one.

I think we might get two on account of winning the league. Unless we get completely smashed by Tipp, then maybe only one. We'd wanna run Tipp very close to have any hope of 3 alright.

SSK

Mountainlad wrote: »

Padraic Maher is ineligible, you have to be u21. Noel McGrath hasn't been as good this year as he has been the past two years, so he isn't in my top three YET, but could certainly change all that with his undoubted quality. To me, Hannon, Rushe and Mahony are the top three at present. Downes and McGrath won't be nominated in my view. Also David Burke has fallne out of contention as he was anonymous on Sunday.

Yeah I hear what you're saying about Noel McGrath but one good game in either the semi of final will get him a nomination. I think Downes has played as many good games as Hannon, but Hannon's game against Dublin will probably shade it. Rushe would be a banker if it was being picked now.

Temp Barry wrote: »

Maguire, Corcoran, Kelly, Rushe, Keaney, O'Dwyer, Ryan to get nominations. Rushe should get the nod for one All Star, might get one or two more depending on performances v Tipp.

I think only one of ROD and Keaney will get one. Corcoran could get one alright, the rest I agree with.

If Kelly has a good game on Corbett in the semi I would have him as my second Dublin allstar with Rushe.

Fergus_Nash

Sir Graball wrote: »

I'd say 1-18 in two games was pretty amazing!!


Richie Power has stood out. Ok he's not scoring a heap but his distribution and movement at center forward - his best position imo- had been excellent

Yeah but how much of that 1 18 was from frees? I'm just saying that no Kilkenny forward has stood out like Richie Power did last year. I think Rice, however, is a central cog to the Kilkenny forwards and deserves an award.

Power has played well but he'll be up against Callinan and for the centre forward position. It will probably depend on whoever wins the final.

Shane Walsh is in with a shout for full forward.

Temp Barry wrote: »

Maguire, Corcoran, Kelly, Rushe, Keaney, O'Dwyer, Ryan to get nominations. Rushe should get the nod for one All Star, might get one or two more depending on performances v Tipp.

I think the only chance of Dublin getting an All Star is in one of the coner back positions. Rushe has been moved around too much to dominate one position while he is also up against tough competition (Brick and Hogan for centre back, Kevin Moran, Fennelly and Shane McGrath in midfield).

Maguire let in four in the Leinster final so he won't be with a shot. The half forward line is too crowded for Keaney or O'Dywer(having missed the final) to get in. Ryan is a possibility but he would only get an All Star on his free taking abilty.

SSK

Fergus_Nash wrote: »

I think the only chance of Dublin getting an All Star is in one of the coner back positions. Rushe has been moved around too much to dominate one position while he is also up against tough competition (Brick and Hogan for centre back, Kevin Moran, Fennelly and Shane McGrath in midfield).

Maguire let in four in the Leinster final so he won't be with a shot. The half forward line is too crowded for Keaney or O'Dywer(having missed the final) to get in. Ryan is a possibility but he would only get an All Star on his free taking abilty.

Nah I don't buy that, Rushe is pretty much a certainty in one of the midfield/half forward spots. He may have moved around a lot but he's been in Dublin's top 3 players in pretty much every game this year so space will be found for him.

Moran Fennelly

Shefflin Maher Rushe

would be how I would line them out based on current form. Rushe is a bit of a media darling so he has that in his favour also :cool:

I do agree that if Dublin are to get a second one it will be in the full back line, depending on how well they hold Tipp in the semi. Kelly would be ahead of Corcoran at the moment for me.

Fergus_Nash

SSK wrote: »

Nah I don't buy that, Rushe is pretty much a certainty in one of the midfield/half forward spots. He may have moved around a lot but he's been in Dublin's top 3 players in pretty much every game this year so space will be found for him.

Moran Fennelly

Shefflin Maher Rushe

would be how I would line them out based on current form. Rushe is a bit of a media darling so he has that in his favour also :cool:

But Rushe hasn't played in the half forward line all year. If the awards went as you say, then Callinan, O'Mahony, Power, Rice, O'Dwyer would have to feel aggrieved to not be included because a player who isn't a half forward is in before them.

That would be like saying that Tony Browne should get one at corner back because Walsh is in at no. 5 but Browne is better this year than any of the country's corner backs.

Likewise I think that either Shefflin or Maher will get in at left half forward but not both because so far that has been their position this year.

SSK

Fergus_Nash wrote: »

But Rushe hasn't played in the half forward line all year. If the awards went as you say, then Callinan, O'Mahony, Power, Rice, O'Dwyer would have to feel aggrieved to not be included because a player who isn't a half forward is in before them.

That would be like saying that Tony Browne should get one at corner back because Walsh is in at no. 5 but Browne is better this year than any of the country's corner backs.

Likewise I think that either Shefflin or Maher will get in at left half forward but not both because so far that has been their position this year.

He played the entire game against Limerick at wing forward, bits and pieces of a lot of the other championship games in the HF line and a lot of the league there. And he'll start there against Tipp in the semi.

And this is the All Stars we're talking about, they've been shuffling positions since the thing began.

Fergus_Nash

SSK wrote: »

He played the entire game against Limerick at wing forward, bits and pieces of a lot of the other championship games in the HF line and a lot of the league there. And he'll start there against Tipp in the semi.

And this is the All Stars we're talking about, they've been shuffling positions since the thing began.

Oh apologies I didn't know about the Limerick match. If he plays well against Tipp in the wing forward line then maybe he is in with a shout but I don't think so. The wing forwards in the All Stars will be made up of Tipp and Kilkenny players.

Fergus_Nash

Ok so given today's game it's time to change my prediction for the All Stars. Same team as the OP with the following changes.

1. Herity is in with a chance. Depends on who lets in the least goals in the final.
6. Brick didn't have a good match today - he was run ragged by Shefflin. Very same thing can be said about Brian Hogan and Mullane. Rushe can't be put in a position that he just had one good game in. Conor O'Mahony has a chance.
8. However Rushe could get in if he excels against McGrath next week.
10. Callinan will probably get in there if he plays well over the two matches.
11. Shefflin's performance was excellent today.
14. Eoin Kelly (Tipp) is in pole-position and will likely get one.
15. Mullane deserves one.

Kojak

Fergus_Nash wrote: »

Ok so given today's game it's time to change my prediction for the All Stars. Same team as the OP with the following changes.

1. Herity is in with a chance. Depends on who lets in the least goals in the final.
6. Brick didn't have a good match today - he was run ragged by Shefflin. Very same thing can be said about Brian Hogan and Mullane. Rushe can't be put in a position that he just had one good game in. Conor O'Mahony has a chance.
8. However Rushe could get in if he excels against McGrath next week.
10. Callinan will probably get in there if he plays well over the two matches.
11. Shefflin's performance was excellent today.
14. Eoin Kelly (Tipp) is in pole-position and will likely get one.
15. Mullane deserves one.

Kevin Moran, up until the KK match, was Waterford's best prospect for an All-Star award. I fear that he will miss out on one after having a no-show against Fennelly.

Also, the HOTY is between Padraig Maher, Michael Fennelly and Corbett - although I doubt very much that the same player will win the award 2 years in a row.

Is there a GPA awards this year, or has that been subsumed into the All-Star awards?

Fireball07

Kojak wrote: »

Kevin Moran, up until the KK match, was Waterford's best prospect for an All-Star award. I fear that he will miss out on one after having a no-show against Fennelly.

Also, the HOTY is between Padraig Maher, Michael Fennelly and Corbett - although I doubt very much that the same player will win the award 2 years in a row.

Is there a GPA awards this year, or has that been subsumed into the All-Star awards?

Definitely throw in Shefflin and Walsh for hurler of the year.

Shefflin was their best player today and their outstanding forward in Leinster. Walsh was fantastic today and against Dublin, but is behind the rest at the moment.

But a good performance from any of them in the final could seal it. Same with Corbett and Maher. It should come from the winners.