Norway bombing and shootings

digme

Norway? come on! why would someone do this?


Let me apologise for saying it was mossad.
Mossad are pieces of sh!t, but in this rare instance, it wasn't them.





A large bomb blast has hit near government headquarters in the Norwegian capital Oslo, killing at least one person.
The offices of Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg were damaged extensively - a government spokeswoman said he was safe.
Police said a number of people were injured in the city centre explosion.

SIR PEADO BAILOUT

sure i`m recognising da Pallies every day and no ones after doing da house in,fingers crossed mind,I heart Mossad and his sista

amacachi

digme wrote: »

Norway? come on! why would someone do this?

Yeah, it's not like they're dropping many of the bombs in the Middle East.

hooradiation

And just recently Gunfire at Utøya where there's a camp for labour party youths.

Not that this proves anything either way with regards to the Mossad theory, but were i a betting man I'd be putting money on this being domestic in nature.

charlemont

Yes, I thought the same Mossad or CIA type people. Seems Israel will go to any lengths to get its way, hope the Norwegians strike back, Although its very unlikely, It'll be blamed on Muslims.

fontanalis

amacachi wrote: »

Yeah, it's not like they're dropping many of the bombs in the Middle East.

They are involved in the Afghan war aren't they, and the fact they mightn't be considered high risk may make them a soft target.

hooradiation

fontanalis wrote: »

They are involved in the Afghan war aren't they, and the fact they mightn't be considered high risk may make them a soft target.

They have also been part of the NATO group operating in Libya. As of April they'd dropped 200 or so bombs on Gaddafi forces and infrastructure and it was also Norwegian f-16's that bombed Gaddafis headquarters in Tripoli.

Mahatma coat

So the questions that should arise from this incident are

Who did it?????

Why??

Who will be BLAMED for it?????

Why??

ed2hands

Al qaeda being touted already in MM.

If Libyan link is made (or planted), it could lead to land invasion.

fontanalis

ed2hands wrote: »

Al qaeda being touted already in MM.

If Libyan link is made (or planted), it could lead to land invasion.

Wonder why?

PseudoFamous

fontanalis wrote: »

Wonder why?

Something to do with threatening the West, and having a track record, perhaps?

Mahatma coat

really, can you elaborate on this Track Record.

PseudoFamous

Mahatma coat wrote: »

really, can you elaborate on this Track Record.

Al Qaeda have supposedly carried out many terrorist attacks in the past, including the Istanbul and London bombings, the attack on the Danish Embassy in Pakistan, and of course, 9/11's flying of planes into buildings. Of course, while there are theories which say otherwise, the perpetrators are generally recognised to be Al Qaeda.

Also, they have threatened to attack the West on many occasions, so that would really be a self-condemnation by them.

Jonny7

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Al Qaeda have supposedly carried out many terrorist attacks in the past, including the Istanbul and London bombings, the attack on the Danish Embassy in Pakistan, and of course, 9/11's flying of planes into buildings. Of course, while there are theories which say otherwise, the perpetrators are generally recognised to be Al Qaeda.

Also, they have threatened to attack the West on many occasions, so that would really be a self-condemnation by them.

Threatening, carrying out, and claiming responsibility of dozens of bombings in Pakistan, India, etc

Plus many other "attempts"

It could be local a la Timothy McVeigh types, but I'll put my money on Al Qaeda

Norway soft target, involved in Afghanistan

Brown Bomber

Watching the Norwegian news now. 10 shot bodies found on an island off Oslo which is being evacuated right now They've arrested a suspect there who was dressed as a policeman and had being spotted at the bomb site too. Police official says that they don't know about motive at the moment but they suspect someone with inside information because the bomb went off in a wing were there were lots of workers and the other side was almost empty.

I'm not 100% on this my Norwegians not perfect.

Brown Bomber

Suspect is a blond man who speaks Norwegian.

nyarlothothep

So why no attacks on Ireland?

Cork24

nyarlothothep wrote: »

So why no attacks on Ireland?

Se Dont see palestine as a state. Very sad why would muslims take a bomb to norway when they will recognize palestine as a state

Sparticle

nyarlothothep wrote: »

So why no attacks on Ireland?

There would be no point as the property you'd destroy would be worth less than the bomb.

fontanalis

Cork24 wrote: »

Se Dont see palestine as a state. Very sad why would muslims take a bomb to norway when they will recognize palestine as a state

You really think muslim groups that bomb the sh1t out of markets in muslim contries killing muslim civilians give a damn about norwegians, recognition of palestine or not? It's only pure speculation on the palestine aspect aswell!

Lefticus Loonaticus

Well, whoever did it, I hope norweigian people wont be manipulated by such events.

The police are gonna give a press conference soon so hopefully we will get some info about the guy they caught. It would be outragous if he turned out to be a foriegn secret service type, or if he was linked to NATO.

I dont know about islamists tbh, the best 2 bets would either a gadaffi job or a NATO job. There could be a right scandal over this and i bet information is being twisted as we speak if it was anyone other than gadaffi or islamists.

Monty Burnz

Lefticus Loonaticus wrote: »

There could be a right scandal over this and i bet information is being twisted as we speak if it was anyone other than gadaffi or islamists.

The obvious candidates are Islamists. Let's wait for the evidence before we start undermining the story from the MM...

Oh, and another candidate for a CT here is that it was carried out by Norwegian right-wingers to cause a reaction against Muslims in Norway, but we'll see I guess...

nyarlothothep

Its probably muslamics, though it could be mossad or whatever, if it were mossad then you would have to put the IRA and the Islamic terrorist groups in the same category as they stop at nothing to achieve their aims either. You could say that the cover up aspect would differentiate mossad from the others, who would more than likely claim credit.

Brown Bomber

They reckon now it was a car bomb.

The Car bomb is Mossad's weapon of choice. I'm guessing it was some ex-military, neo-nazi type. I dont know what news your getting over there but he convinced the coast guard to take him over to the small island after the bomb had gone off and started shooting and tracking down the kids on the island before he was taken down.

Doesn't sound like the actions of an intelligence agent to me. Seems this was a suicide mission.

Brown Bomber

hooradiation wrote: »

They have also been part of the NATO group operating in Libya. As of April they'd dropped 200 or so bombs on Gaddafi forces and infrastructure and it was also Norwegian f-16's that bombed Gaddafis headquarters in Tripoli.

Just came across this

Norway Announces Withdrawal From Libya Campaign | Outgoing Defense Secretary Robert Gates on Wednesday asked five NATO members (Germany, Spain, Poland, Turkey and the Netherlands) to boost their contributions in the air campaign against Muammar Qaddafi’s government in LIbya. U.S. officials even singled out Denmark and Norway for “punching above their weight.” However, Norway announced today that “it will scale down its fighter jet contribution in Libya from six to four planes and withdraw completely from the NATO-led operation by August 1.”
http://thinkprogress.org/security/20...ibya-campaign/

Brown Bomber

Apparently this is a shot of the shooter on the island. A kid on the left in the water pleads for his life to the gunman as dead bodies float around him. Terribly sad. View at your own discretion.

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/TV2/drfront/2011-07/22/11-a0b28f94-1a998e35.jpeg

Brown Bomber

digme wrote: »

Norway? come on! why would someone do this?

21. July 2011, at. 5:42 p.m

The Foreign Minister was met with claims that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state when he visited the Labour Youth League summer camp Thursday.



AUF WANT BOYCOTT: Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Store was met by demands that Norway must recognize a Palestinian state when he visited the Labour Youth League summer camp at Utøya Thursday. Here the Minister ushered around in the camp of the AUF leader Eskil Pedersen. (Reuters)

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpolitisk.tv2.no%2Fnyheter%2Fst%25C3%25B8re-om-israel-palestina-konflikten-%25E2%2580%2593-okkupasjonen-ma-opph%25C3%25B8re-muren-ma-rives-og-det-ma-skje-na%2F&act=url

ed2hands

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Something to do with threatening the West, and having a track record, perhaps?

Yes but also something to do with the likes of Sky News basing their speculation firmly on the premise that it was Al qaeda, even while it became clear that it was a Norwegian apparently responsible. All we can do is guess even now. BB's info etc seems to point to it being a lone attacker. Tragic and sad.

PseudoFamous

ed2hands wrote: »

Yes but also something to do with the likes of Sky News basing their speculation firmly on the premise that it was Al qaeda, even while it became clear that it was a Norwegian apparently responsible. All we can do is guess even now. BB's info etc seems to point to it being a lone attacker. Tragic and sad.

I've kept an eye on this, they've named the one man as Anders Behring Breivik, and he is a Christian conservative, who owned a farming company, which gave him access to the bomb ingredients.

Brown Bomber

PseudoFamous wrote: »

I've kept an eye on this, they've named the one man as Anders Behring Breivik, and he is a Christian conservative, who owned a farming company, which gave him access to the bomb ingredients.

Yep but apparently he was an extremely anti-Islamic, Zionist.

This is his former blog.
http://fjordman.blogspot.com/

It's a shame people are so programmed to think bomb = Islam.

Here is an interesting quote from Fjordman

We only have the moral right to defend ourselves against Islamization if we give the same rights to Israelis.

It is the same religious groupthat is harassing non-Muslim in European cities, that wants to blow up planes over American cities and is murdering Buddhist teachers in southern Thailand. It is high time we acknowledge this. Israel is not the aggressor, it is a brave little nation making up the frontline in an Islamic war that is increasingly spanning the globe. First, they came for the Jews, then they came for everybody else, the story of yet another world war.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/08/first-they-came-for-the-jews-the-story-of-yet-another-world-war.html

PseudoFamous

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Yep but apparently he was an extremely anti-Islamic, Zionist.

This is his former blog.
http://fjordman.blogspot.com/

How exactly do you know that? I can't find any direct references to him on it.

Brown Bomber wrote: »

It's a shame people are so programmed to think bomb = Islam.

I think people think "bomb = Al Qaeda", actually. Saying Islam is too broad a generalisation.

Brown Bomber

PseudoFamous wrote: »

How exactly do you know that? I can't find any direct references to him on it.

A Norwegian news radio report.

I should say that the man arrested may be innocent and may not be Breitvik and Breitvik may not be Fjordman.

PseudoFamous wrote: »

I think people think "bomb = Al Qaeda", actually. Saying Islam is too broad a generalisation.

I disagree. The majority of the West IMO are casually Islamaphobic.

joebucks

Fvked up sh.it lads..

Apparently this is his facebook page

Anders Behring Breivik : Interests include freemasonry
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002651290254&sk=wall

More here:
http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/23/nyheter/terror/drap/17421854/

The alleged offender is a member of the John lodge St. Olaus TD Three pillars of the Norwegian Masonic Order. He has 3 degree status, where the peak is ten degrees. - We have no way to express an opinion on individuals or incidents related to any members, said spokesman of the Norwegian Freemasons order Helge Qvigstad told Dagbladet. On a Facebook profile appears to be 32-year-old Christian and politically conservative. As favorite books provide the man behind the profile including George Orwell's "1984" and Kafka's "process".

Brown Bomber

Yitzhak Rabin

Thought people might find this picture interesting



Edit: Goddammit, you're fast BB!

joebucks

Nice one BB, hope your keeping well..

His facebook page seems to be only a few days old. Reminds me a little of Jared Lee Loughner profile..

Monty Burnz

Brown Bomber wrote: »

It's a shame people are so programmed to think bomb = Islam.

To be fair, that hasn't happened by accident. They've probably been responsible for 99% of all bombs for the last decade.

Monty Burnz

joebucks wrote: »

Nice one BB, hope your keeping well..

His facebook page seems to be only a few days old. Reminds me a little of Jared Lee Loughner profile..

Although it would make sense that he'd start to get his message out when he's got everything organised and is about to attack. That's what a lot of these loons do - remember the Virginia Tech massacre?

WhatNowForUs?

Monty Burnz wrote: »

To be fair, that hasn't happened by accident. They've probably been responsible for 99% of all bombs for the last decade.

As this statement stands it is complete nonsence. Could you rephrase please.

Mahatma coat

Well thats One Questioned apparently answered

Who = Norwegian Paranoid nutjub

WHY??? thats a biggie, He seems ito be Cooperating with police Now (shame he didnt cooperate earlier and not Murder 91 People:() so maybe we will get an answer to this

now the other questions

Who/what will be blamed for this?? anyone care to speculate, if fjordman is his blog then maybe it will be palmed off as a Racially motivated attack, tho that dosent seem to fit the bill as most of the children would have been Native Norwegians

Why???

Mahatma coat

well True to form the Sun is sticking with its Mantra
Never let the Truth get in the way of a good story

http://www.frontpagestoday.co.uk/uk/the-sun/newspaper.cfm?frontpage=5333

'Al-Quaeda' Massacre
Norway's 9/11

is what they ran this morning

Anyone else suspect a bit of an Agenda there?????

Monty Burnz

WhatNowForUs? wrote: »

As this statement stands it is complete nonsence. Could you rephrase please.

Muslim terrorists have been responsible for 99% of the terrorist bomb attacks in the last decade.

I hope that is easier to read?

Incidentally, what odds would you guys give me that the perpetrator of this attack is himself a CTer?

Mahatma coat

Care to back that statistic up with with something resembling Fact???

Monty Burnz

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Anyone else suspect a bit of an Agenda there?????

Nah, I suspect a lack of info, jumping the gun, and a need to provide easy answers or 'information' to a lazy readership who aren't interested in reading 'motive unknown at this stage' etc.

Although I note they have 'Al Qaeda' in inverted commas - perhaps they have the classic tabloid 'anonymous source' (i.e. 'we made it up') to fill in the information gap that exists at present.

digme

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Nah, I suspect a lack of info, jumping the gun, and a need to provide easy answers or 'information' to a lazy readership who aren't interested in reading 'motive unknown at this stage' etc.

Although I note they have 'Al Qaeda' in inverted commas - perhaps they have an the classic tabloid 'anonymous source' (i.e. 'we made it up') to fill in the information gap that exists at present.

nah they just know the "people" who buy their paper are incapable of any form of critical thinking.

Monty Burnz

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Care to back that statistic up with with something resembling Fact???

I'll tell you what would be easier - you provide a list of terrorist bombings that were not carried out by Muslims in the last decade, and we'll subtract that from the total. That will give us the answer, no?

Monty Burnz

Here are some of attacks that have been documented:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2010.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2009.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2008.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2007.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2006.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2005.htm
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2004.htm

Obviously it's not a complete list for the whole decade, but it's a decent start. And I don't think it will take a rocket scientist to figure out that this is from (unsurprisingly) an anti-Islam website, but there's no reason to think that they are making these up, based on a quick check of a few of them.

So unless there are rather a lot of terrorist bombings going out there that I haven't heard about (and that you can tell us about), my claim that the overwhelming majority are carried out by Muslims looks like it will stand.

fontanalis

digme wrote: »

nah they just know the "people" who buy their paper are incapable of any form of critical thinking.

Given the original title of this thread I don't think you're in a position to criticise.
Time to close this thread before this tragedy is turned into a ghoulish freak show.

digme

fontanalis wrote: »

Given the original title of this thread I don't think you're in a position to criticise.
Time to close this thread before this tragedy is turned into a ghoulish freak show.

I changed the title when i "learned" it wasn't mossad.
That was this morning when i woke up 9am ish. I don't stay up all night watching sky news.The funny thing is though all the isrealis and western media were online posting muslims did it,why not go troll them instead.
At least I have the maturity to say when i made a mistake. Sorry to all sun news paper readers......

brimal

digme wrote: »

Mossad are pieces of sh!t, but in this rare instance, it wasn't them.

'Mossad of pieces of sh!t'
'In this rare instance' :pac:


You're not biased at all are you :rolleyes:

digme

brimal wrote: »

'Mossad of pieces of sh!t'
'In this rare instance' :pac:


You're not biased at all are you :rolleyes:

ofcourse i'm biased