IAA IT Analyst Job....is it just me?...

DublinWriter

I saw this today and couldn't help looking, is it just me or are the IAA looking for the sun, moon and stars for this position? It seems like they are looking for a ridiculous mix of a I.T. Business Analyst, Cable Monkey, administrator and ops support.

Job spec here:

http://www.iaa.ie/files/20110720032842ICT%20Analyst%202011%20Job%20Descritpion.pdf

halkar

They must be taking pi$$
I lolled at "Other Items Maybe Added":eek:

DublinWriter

halkar wrote: »

I lolled at "Other Items Maybe Added":eek:

I didn't notice that...Holy God.

gline

Wow the requirements are pretty broad, anyone here with all those skills?? :P

how much are they offering?

not even wrong

Probably tailored to fit the internal candidate they have already decided on, and they're just going through the motions of advertising it externally.

krissovo

I dont see what the issue is, when you read between the lines they require all round general experience with a good VMware background. I know a few who would fit but none come from a large organization. I would expect the minimum salary for that role should be €80k given the requirement.

Mrs OBumble

krissovo wrote: »

I dont see what the issue is, when you read between the lines they require all round general experience with a good VMware background.

+1 ... except they want a bit of project management skills too.

There are a lot of skills they're not looking for too: no development, no DBA skills, no business analysis.

Yes, I've seen ads that look for people to do everthing advertised and development on the organisation's internal apps too.

As to whether they're taking the pi$$ or not, I guess that depends on the labour market. Demand and supply is an excellent regulator or what's reasonable.

Irish_Elect_Eng

krissovo wrote: »

I dont see what the issue is, when you read between the lines they require all round general experience with a good VMware background. I know a few who would fit but none come from a large organization. I would expect the minimum salary for that role should be €80k given the requirement.

+1 Seams reasonable to me.

It is nice to see a detailed job description.

mada999

dont see a problem with it... a good descriptive job brief for a change..

BostonB

At lot of job spec are what they want. Not what they'll accept.

kippy

They are looking for a bit of an all rounder - which in smaller organisations, is what you need with no real numbers in IT who specialise in this that and the other.
I'd expect the salary would reflect that and this looks like a decent role, something I wouldnt be too far off having the requirements for. It's in Dublin I assume however.

You've a fair idea when you go for that how many boxes you should be ticking.

Raekwon

krissovo wrote: »

I would expect the minimum salary for that role should be €80k given the requirement.

I'd say they have slightly over half of that figure in mind. In my experience companies that tend to want their cake and to eat it too are usually found wanting where salaries are concerned.

Btw I wouldn't be far off that spec list as I have experience with/certs for most of the things that they are looking for (BES, Lotus Domino & major project management aside, although I do have an ITIL v3 cert) but for some reason I doubt I'd even be in with a sniff if I applied for that role.

Jumpy

I could fit that, there isnt really that much to it.
I am curious however how much they are offering. IT is still a shortage in Ireland regardless of the climate.

In saying that, someone who has gained that much experience will have moved to consulting and design by now.
Personally I wouldnt be too quick to go back to support.

shoegirl

What explains it for me is the sentence on managing 3rd parties - I'd guess that a lot of the projects would be done by outside agencies and a large part of the job will be managing them. That said, its not so uncommon to come across people who will have a very broad skills mix - I'd have 80% of what is on this list and about 6 years experience. I would guess they'd probably be paying 50-60k although IAA do pay more than many other agencies so it may go higher. Contractors on these kinda skills would get 300-400 a day at the moment but outside of Dublin you could divide that by half.

I spent 10 months in a state agency contracting and believe me, it was hard, hard work and expectations was high. Would be worth it if you were employed on a generous wage but tough going as a contractor, esp where there was a contract time limit being enforced.

MysticalRain

I don't see what the big deal is. A broad range of skills is what many companies ask for these days. The only quibble I would have with the job spec is that they expect the candidate to do management tasks in addition to general IT stuff. Of course the company I work for expects me to man a helpdesk, put out fires on servers, as well as doing development on the company's website and internal applications. And do it for peanuts too. So perhaps my perspective is a little different here.

DublinWriter

MysticalRain wrote: »

Of course the company I work for expects me to man a helpdesk, put out fires on servers, as well as doing development on the company's website and internal applications. And do it for peanuts too. So perhaps my perspective is a little different here.

Some of the comments have been really interesting since I initially started this post.

As an I.T. old-timer the one lesson I've learnt in terms of career advancement is the trueness of the "Hedgehog and the Fox" philosophical argument, i.e. it's better to know one big thing than plenty of little things.

I suspect the IAA job pays in the region of €40K.

What I would find professionally worrying about the job spec is the very broad mix of Level 2 support coupled with the strategic stuff and the vendor management; in my experience neither task could be fulfilled concurrently on a day to day basis by one single person.

MysticalRain

DublinWriter wrote: »

As an I.T. old-timer the one lesson I've learnt in terms of career advancement is the trueness of the "Hedgehog and the Fox" philosophical argument, i.e. it's better to know one big thing than plenty of little things.

Indeed. I couldn't agree more with that philosophy. It's also a question of finding the right companies to work for.

vikingdub

It is possible that the job description is tailored to suit an internal candidate, standard practice in local authorities, semi states, etc.

Some time ago this outfit were advertising for a Human Resources Director, lengthy job description, previous experience in trade union negotiation essential. At the time there had been no meaningful negotiation between trade unions and employers since the "partnerships", I could not see how that requirement could be fulfilled. Anyhow they made their selection and within a couple of months the air traffic controllers went out on strike. So much for having real, relevant experience.

I would say to anyone who is interested apply and see what happens but don't be disappointed if you subsequently discover an internal candidate or someone from one of the other semi-states/quangos is appointed.

Raekwon

Did anyone apply for this role? Myself and a friend of mine did, we are both current employed but just wanted to test the water so to speak. We haven't heard anything back yet and we both pretty much tick every box in regards to the job spec.