Tiger & Stevie Split per Hank H.

Beaulieu

Just seen this on Hank Haney's Twitter a/c:

http://twitter.com/#!/hankdhaney

Wowsie !!

veetwin

Also here;

http://web.tigerwoods.com/news/article/2011072022046142/news/

Must of got a little jealous with Steve cuddling up to Adam Scott in the past while!

Figo69

Can Harrington do the same and dump his bro in law!!!

LuckyGent88

surprised he didnt get rid of him earlier after all the affairs came to light.

The big question now is who will take over his bag? Billy Foster would hardly leave Westwood who normally stands in when Williams couldnt caddy.

BERBA

i'd love to know how much stevie has made down through the years on tigers bag......$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$:D

WHIP IT!

BERBA wrote: »

i'd love to know how much stevie has made down through the years on tigers bag......$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$:D

I remember hearing that he was the richest "sportsman" in New Zealand?

Trampas

another divorce for Eldrick

Keano

Steve's not too happy about it.

STATEMENT:
Following the completion of the AT&T National I am no longer caddying for Tiger after he informed me that he needed to make a change. After 13 years of loyal service needless to say this came as a shock. Given the circumstances of the past 18 months working through Tiger's scandal, a new coach and with it a major swing change and Tiger battling through injuries I am very disappointed to end our very successful partnership at this time. I have had the opportunity to work of late for Australian Adam Scott and will now caddy for him on a permanent basis. Having started my caddying career with Australian great Peter Thompson and working for Greg Norman in the 80's I am excited about the future working for another Australian.

Degag

WHIP IT! wrote: »

I remember hearing that he was the richest "sportsman" in New Zealand?

Yep have heard that too., and i'd believe it. He's also big into motor racing - he drives professionally. He's also a rather big philanthropist in New Zealand.

staker

Scott's surely got one major in him,prospects look better with a caddy of Steve's calibre.
Woods really hasn't a hope of emulating Jack's record now.

davo10

I think the writing was on the wall a while back when he made a derogatory comment about Mickelson and said Tiger didnt like him.

WHIP IT!

staker wrote: »

Scott's surely got one major in him,prospects look better with a caddy of Steve's calibre.
Woods really hasn't a hope of emulating Jack's record now.

Think you're hugely over-estimating the role of a caddy there to be honest. They can't take the shots for em.

Beaulieu

Colin Byrne is free :D:D:D:D:D . It will be interesting to see if Billy Foster does indeed get the gig. Westwood pouted after the Open & may be open to a change. I think Billy looped before for Eldrick when Stevie was getting married. What odds Billy F for Tiger & Colin Byrne for Westwood?

staker

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Think you're hugely over-estimating the role of a caddy there to be honest. They can't take the shots for em.

You're probably right! I wouldn't let my caddy take a shot either tbvh.

Johnny_Fontane

Figo69 wrote: »

Can Harrington do the same and dump his bro in law!!!

Harrington could have 5 caddies, Luke donald driving for him and he still won't win sh1t. I loved the guy but his day has gone.....and thinking his caddy has anything to do with is balls.

k.p.h

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

Harrington could have 5 caddies, Luke donald driving for him and he still won't win sh1t. I loved the guy but his day has gone.....and thinking his caddy has anything to do with is balls.

You serious Johnny ... Shur you could have said that about Darren Clarke (and some people did) not too long ago and now he is Major Winner. Foolish to write someone of his caliber off like that. Maybe for the season or whatever but he is going to be playing golf for a good few years more. Could easily get his game together and bag another few big ones.

Woods is mentally unstable IMO, not in a crazy type of way but he is obviously not well rounded personally. I think its becoming extreemly obvious. I think his dad and all the other stuff that comes with becoming one of the most famous guys on earth has left him at a loss personality wise. I imagine he will find it hard to find a caddie as good but he is becoming increasingly random in what he dose. Will be an interesting watch the next few seasons to see how he gets on.

Jimmy Iovine

I might send Tiger my CV. I've nothing else to do for the next year anyway now that I'm finished college.

Degag

davo10 wrote: »

I think the writing was on the wall a while back when he made a derogatory comment about Mickelson and said Tiger didnt like him.

I doubt it. That was years ago.

foxyboxer

It might be the fact that he intends on playing a reduced schedule in years to come. Maybe 6-8 tournaments including the majors because of his crocked left knee. Maybe he doesn't want to keep Williams in the lurch and as they're good friends would want to see him get out on a more regular bag. It's not like Williams would be begging for a bag anyway.

CaptainPendulum

Looking forward to Stevie's book

BoardsMember

Apparently Tiger's brother in law has ruled himself out as a possible successor...

BoardsMember

Apparently Tiger's brother in law has ruled himself out as a possible successor...

Aidric

Can someone get Ro Flood on the speed dial?

blackwaterfish

Aidric wrote: »

Can someone get Ro Flood on the speed dial?

seriously, is there ANYTHING we can do to facilitate this? somebody around here must know someone who can get close to the target and just float the idea out there. we need to go all Inception its ass.

does anyone have k.mcginty's email?

we could tell the slobbering sycophant that PH is interested in a new looper and that KMcG could use the experience as the basis for a new book. bestseller for xmas 2014 and he'd get to see PH in his smalls.

blackwaterfish

Beaulieu wrote: »

Just seen this on Hank Haney's Twitter a/c:

http://twitter.com/#!/hankdhaney

Wowsie !!

Love that hank spilled the beans.... and in the process attributed so much of eldricks success to gentle steve.

highest of five's hank!

whats amazing is that SW is coming out of this looking sympathetic. that quite an achievement!... and ranks right up there with eldricks best.

Johnny_Fontane

If Martin Kaymer purportedly got 100 applications to loop for him, Woods will have plenty of interest.

WHEN tiger comes back, its gonna be the best job on the tour.....simple as.

BoardsMember

blackwaterfish wrote: »

Love that hank spilled the beans...

I cant get into that link. How has Haney spilled the beans?

charlieIRL

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Think you're hugely over-estimating the role of a caddy there to be honest. They can't take the shots for em.

shots they can't do, but steady the boat when a few shots go awol they can / should be able to do!!

blackwaterfish

BoardsMember wrote: »

I cant get into that link. How has Haney spilled the beans?

due to laughing so hard he didnt notice the toast sliding off the plate. they should make one side of the bread more tactile to try avoid tragedies such as this.

Okay spose he didnt spill the beans as such... but was the first twitterer to twitt about it i believe...

@HankDHaney
Hank Haney Wow, Tiger let Steve Williams go, I am shocked, Stevie is the best caddy I have ever seen and been a big part of a lot of his success.

nice one hank!

BiffoGooner

Interview with Williams.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/golf/14237031.stm

BoardsMember

blackwaterfish wrote: »

due to laughing so hard he didnt notice the toast sliding off the plate. they should make one side of the bread more tactile to try avoid tragedies such as this.

Okay spose he didnt spill the beans as such... but was the first twitterer to twitt about it i believe...

@HankDHaney
Hank Haney Wow, Tiger let Steve Williams go, I am shocked, Stevie is the best caddy I have ever seen and been a big part of a lot of his success.

nice one hank!

Is that it? It's all over the web the fact that they are no longer an item. I presumed Haney had added something to that which is in the public domain. Twitter is such a load of nonsense, I suppose I should not be surprised that there was nothing in it. Sorry to hear about the beans.

blackwaterfish

BoardsMember wrote: »

Is that it? It's all over the web the fact that they are no longer an item. I presumed Haney had added something to that which is in the public domain. Twitter is such a load of nonsense, I suppose I should not be surprised that there was nothing in it. Sorry to hear about the beans.

read between the lines, hank & tiger no longer swap comics, hanks having a thinly disguised pop at his old boss. more of it i say!

id rather pickle my eyeballs in wee than even gaze upon twitter.

beans are legends... each & every one of them

BoardsMember

blackwaterfish wrote: »

BoardsMember wrote: »

Is that it? It's all over the web the fact that they are no longer an item. I presumed Haney had added something to that which is in the public domain. Twitter is such a load of nonsense, I suppose I should not be surprised that there was nothing in it. Sorry to hear about the beans.

read between the lines, hank & tiger no longer swap comics, hanks having a thinly disguised pop at his old boss. more of it i say!

id rather pickle my eyeballs in wee than even gaze upon twitter.

beans are legends... each & every one of them

Beans rock. A little bit of soy in them with some melted cheese on top for the sophisticates

JerryHandbag

Wonder if Tiger will go back to Fluff Cowan now, although that didnt exactly end on good terms either

blackwaterfish

JerryHandbag wrote: »

Wonder if Tiger will go back to Fluff Cowan now, although that didnt exactly end on good terms either

whats been missing from tigers life since his form went south?

nasty white trash skank.

hence we may see Joslyn James on the bag in the coming months.... makes perfect sense to me.

Or possibly michael jordan

Martin567

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

WHEN tiger comes back, its gonna be the best job on the tour.....simple as.

Why?

Tiger will be 36 in a few months and he will be a very old 36 as he was at the very top of the game at 21. Lots of true greats of the game like Seve, Tom Watson & Arnold Palmer won their last Major when they were younger than Tiger is now.

Tiger has a knee injury which is never going to completely go away. He has also had some big issues with his swing and a lot of serious personal problems which have destroyed his aura of invincibility. There are also a bunch of very talented players 10 or more years younger than Tiger who have started to challenge for and win Majors.

At the very least, there would have to be a significant doubt as to whether Tiger will ever win another Major. It wouldn't surprise me if he does win at least one more but it also wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't.

For the past 15 years, Tiger could have had any caddie he wanted. I could imagine someone like Billy Foster having to think very carefully if he was offered the job now. He could well decide to stay where he is if he thinks he would have a better chance of success with Lee Westwood in the next 2/3 years.

Another thing to consider is that Tiger may only play 10/12 times a year in future to protect his knee. I can't see him ever challenging for No 1 in the world again as he simply won't play enough. I'm sure Tiger won't have a problem finding a new caddie but he won't neccessarily get his first choice which is a big change. Best job on Tour - definitely not.

foxyboxer

It's a question of Money, Moolah, Wonga etc

The PGA tour norm is for caddies to receive a base salary of $1,000 per tournament. With a 10% cut of prize money for a win, 7% for a Top-10 and 5% for making the cut.

Now you'd think that Steve was rolling in it during the past decade due to Wood's win/top10 ratio, however they struck a deal that he'd be paid just :rolleyes: a salary between $1.5 to $2 million per year.

Woods has a reputation for being careful with money or as the americans would say 'Cheap'. Woods figures out that he won't be playing much anymore probably say under 10 events a year and won't justify paying Williams that much anymore.

WHIP IT!

foxyboxer wrote: »

It's a question of Money, Moolah, Wonga etc

The PGA tour norm is for caddies to receive a base salary of $1,000 per tournament. With a 10% cut of prize money for a win, 7% for a Top-10 and 5% for making the cut.

Now you'd think that Steve was rolling in it during the past decade due to Wood's win/top10 ratio, however they struck a deal that he'd be paid just :rolleyes: a salary between $1.5 to $2 million per year.

Woods has a reputation for being careful with money or as the americans would say 'Cheap'. Woods figures out that he won't be playing much anymore probably say under 10 events a year and won't justify paying Williams that much anymore.

If that's accurate then I wouldn't call it cheap, I'd say it's just good sense. All things come to an end, these things have a natural evolution. Tiger has every right to employ whomever he wants.

Williams obviously feels he's as much repsonsible for the 13 Majors as Tiger is so this healthy dose of reality will do him no harm. I've never liked the chap and I like him even less seeing how big a knob he's been throughout this latest story.

BoardsMember

Martin567 wrote: »

Tiger has a knee injury which is never going to completely go away.

I love the way us punters have infinite knowledge when it comes to injuries sportspeople get. Let's face it, only time will tell. You dont know how it will recover, Tiger doesn't know, his surgeon doesn't know.

blackwaterfish

this is hilarious: tiger dicked steve because he looped for adams and Eldrick was cheesed off at the lack of loyalty.

loyalty!

this from the serial adulterer!

this is better than fair city


http://www.geoffshackelford.com/homepage/2011/7/21/woods-fires-stevie-for-disloyalty.html

"With Woods sidelined, and seeing that he was already in the US, it seemed innocuous enough to Williams to answer an SOS from his old friend, Scott, who’d just parted ways with longtime caddie Tony Navarro and needed someone to step in while he looked for a permanent replacement.

But it wasn’t innocuous to Woods, who wasn’t happy to be sharing his caddie with another player.

Neither did he want to deal with the inevitable media speculation the news would invite.

But Williams had already promised Scott he’d work for him at Congressional and told Woods he wasn’t going to go back on his word.

The straw that broke this camel’s back came when Williams showed up at Woods’ own tournament, the AT&T National in Philadelphia, with Scott, who finished third.

Williams hadn’t thought it necessary to get Woods’ permission a second time but at a closed-door meeting after the trophy presentation, Woods told Williams he‘d been disloyal and fired him."

L.O.F.T

blackwaterfish wrote: »

hence we may see Joslyn James on the bag in the coming months

Which bag would be my question fish!

redhill

L.O.F.T wrote: »

Which bag would be my question fish!

could be !! tiger just can't get away from Fanny at the moment, check out who's is the bookies fav to get the bag

http://www.skybet.com/betting/golf/tiger-woods-specials/tiger-woods-next-permanent-caddie/e13150307.html

durkadurka

Meanwhile tiger will probably be out of the top 30 by the PGA if he isn't back playing, and playing well.

heavyballs

in terms of a new caddy i know for a fact Tiger is very fond of Bones and Fanny:D

JerryHandbag

Hmmm I bet things will be a bit frosty the next time Tigger and Adam Scott are drawn together in a 3 ball.

heavyballs

JerryHandbag wrote: »

Hmmm I bet things will be a bit frosty the next time Tigger and Adam Scott are drawn together in a 3 ball.

do you really think so?????? Tiger's more interested in getting his game back on track..........anyway he's hardly the most talkative on tour

k.p.h

heavyballs wrote: »

in terms of a new caddy i know for a fact Tiger is very fond of Bones and Fanny:D

Took 24hr for me to get that joke. Very Good

johntommy

heavyballs wrote: »

do you really think so?????? Tiger's more interested in getting his game back on track..........anyway he's hardly the most talkative on tour

If Woods plays in the last major of the year the PGA tournament, you can be sure he will be drawn to play with Scott and probably Rory.

soundsham

johntommy wrote: »

heavyballs wrote: »

do you really think so?????? Tiger's more interested in getting his game back on track..........anyway he's hardly the most talkative on tour

If Woods plays in the last major of the year the PGA tournament, you can be sure he will be drawn to play with Scott and probably Rory.

Rory Darren and schwartzal will be a 3 ball
Last 3 major winners play together

durkadurka

Tiger plays firestone next week

blackwaterfish

With his mammy on the bag?

or Mark Steinberg??