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NOTW hacking whistleblower found dead

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    in before run to the hills


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    :cough: David Kelly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    :cough: David Kelly

    ill put the kettle on, gail


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Oh no. The conspiracy theory people will be fapping themselves sensless to this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Just read about it on Ceefax as Panorama was on, didn't look like a man who was about to top himself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    The death is being treated as 'unexplained, but not thought to be suspicious', Hertfordshire police said.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Oh no. The conspiracy theory people will be fapping themselves sensless to this.

    And rightly so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Snowc


    I would not be surprised if the cause of death was found to be that not of natural causes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Oh no. The conspiracy theory people will be fapping themselves sensless to this.

    In fairness - it's very fishy. It wouldn't be a stretch to suggest he was murdered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭matchthis


    Bet they're all dying to hack into his voicemail now:pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    I don't have a huge amount of respect for Obama but I certainly would if he goes after News International and Murdoch. He's not like all the last dozen or so UK PMs, he's had all the mudslinging Fox could manage so he's got nothing to lose.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Well if the Americans found anything serious, we'd be talking about they attempting to break up the monopoly Murdoch has on the worlds media.
    ...So this comes as no surprise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Biggins wrote: »
    Well if the Americans found anything serious, we'd be talking about they attempting to break up the monopoly Murdoch has on the worlds media.
    ...So this comes as no surprise.

    It's America, there's always a charge available on anyone if the right people want to find it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,227 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    I went to school with a couple of Hoares.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    in before run to the hills

    i'm already there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    im looking forward to reading about this in the NOTW this sunday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭barbarians


    A former News of the World reporter who alleged Andy Coulson 'encouraged' him to hack phones has been found dead today.
    Sean Hoare, who made claims in a New York Times article about the Prime Minister's former communications chief, was discovered at his home in Watford, Hertfordshire, after concerns were raised about his whereabouts.

    The death is being treated as 'unexplained, but not thought to be suspicious', Hertfordshire police said.
    Last year Mr Hoare publicly claimed that Mr Coulson was aware of phone hacking while he was editor at the News of the World.
    He gave an interview to the New York Times, and then to the BBC, about the use of phone hacking at the newspaper.
    Speaking to BBC Radio 4's PM programme, he said phone hacking was 'endemic' in the newspaper industry.

    Mr Hoare, who worked on the Sun before being recruited by Mr Coulson to work on the NOTW, said: 'He was well aware that the practice exists. To deny it is a lie, simply a lie.'
    Mr Coulson denies the allegations.

    The showbiz journalist was dismissed from the News of the World for drink and drug problems.
    Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner John Yates has resigned after criticism of his handling of a review of the initial investigation into phone hacking, and failure to recognise the potential threat to the force's reputation.

    Mr Yates decided in 2009 not to re-open investigations into the alleged hacking, saying there was reason to do so.
    However, a new inquiry launched in January this year found police had 11,000 pages of evidence that had not been thoroughly examined by detectives.

    British police are currently investigating whether News of the World journalists hacked into the voicemails of members of the public, including those of murder victims and their families.
    It is also alleged that journalists paid members of the police for stories, which is illegal, and that editors and executives within the company were aware of these practices.

    The news follows the resignation by his boss Paul Stephenson last night over links to former News of the world deputy editor Neil Wallis.
    In a parting shot, Mr Stephenson indicated that his decision to hire Mr Wallis as a media adviser was less controversial than the appointment of the newspaper's ex-editor Andy Coulson as Downing Street communications director.

    But asked about the barb during a trip to Africa, British Prime Minister David Cameron insisted: 'The situation in the Metropolitan Police Service is really quite different to the situation in the Government, not least because the issues that the Metropolitan Police are looking at, the issues around them, have had a direct bearing on public confidence in the police inquiry into the News of the World - and indeed into the police themselves.

    'For my part what I would say is that we have taken very decisive action. We have set up a judicial inquiry that can look at all aspects of these issues.
    'We have helped to ensure a large and properly resourced police investigation that can get to the bottom of what happened, and wrongdoing, and we have pretty much demonstrated complete transparency in terms of media contact.'

    As he sought to limit damage from the crisis, Mr Cameron said he would be delaying parliament's summer break so he could make a statement on Wednesday.
    He also denied that he had made an error of judgment by leaving the country amid the fast-moving events - which will see Rupert Murdoch, son James and ex-News International chief executive Rebekah Brooks make an eagerly awaited appearance before MPs tomorrow.
    Questioned by an audience at Johannesburg Stock Exchange later, Mr Cameron dodged questions over whether he had considered resigning. And in his strongest remarks on the subject so far, he said issues of 'potential police corruption' had to be addressed.

    Today it was also confirmed Ms Brooks will attend tomorrow's British parliament committee meeting on phone hacking allegations at the News of the World.
    The confirmation follows Ms Brooks' arrest and subsequent release on bail, which cast doubt on her appearance at the sitting.
    She is scheduled to answer questions from British MPs tomorrow, alongside News Corp chief Rupert Murdoch and his son James.
    Ms Brooks was released at midnight last night following 12 hours of questioning and was told to report back to a London police station in late October.
    This evening,The Guardian is reporting a computer, paperwork and a phone found in a bin near the riverside London home of Ms Brooks is being examined by police.

    ###

    Unlikely that he died of natural causes so suddenly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    An article here about Sean Hoare being the star prosecution witness against Andy Coulson:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/charlotte-harris-a-star-witness-who-risks-prosecution-is-an-unlikely-liar-2070650.html
    Spokesmen for Coulson and the NoW have attempted to discredit Hoare's fresh allegations by portraying him as an unreliable witness, a disgruntled ex-employee with drink and drugs problems.

    He has received no money, so what is his motive? Is it political? Or just revenge? Hoare says no to both. He says that justice has not been done. The NoW allowed Clive Goodman, its former Royal correspondent, to take the blame and go to prison when it was proved the paper had been hacking into the phones of Princes William and Harry. And Hoare is dismayed at the "selective amnesia" shown by Coulson and other News International executives who gave evidence to last summer's Select Committee looking into the allegations.


    To say this man's sudden 'unexplained' death is suspicious, is a major understatement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    Snowc wrote: »
    I would not be surprised if the cause of death was found to be that not of natural causes.

    & I would not be surprised if the cause of death was found to be that of natural causes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,247 ✭✭✭stevejazzx


    That's itnow for any further potential whistleblowers I imagine.

    Unexplained but not suspicious? :rolleyes:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    barbarians wrote: »
    ...This evening,The Guardian is reporting a computer, paperwork and a phone found in a bin near the riverside London home of Ms Brooks is being examined by police.
    Now that could turn out to be interesting!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    thee glitz wrote: »
    . The death is being treated as 'unexplained, but not thought to be suspicious', Hertfordshire police said.
    What's not suspicious about being hacked to death ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    We are at the stage of Empire Strikes back now with this NOTW story. It will be interesting when the return of the jedi part comes up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭brimal


    Go to http://www.thesun.co.uk now and wait a couple of seconds.

    Lulzsec have just hacked them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,584 ✭✭✭✭Creamy Goodness


    amacachi wrote: »
    Just read about it on Ceefax as Panorama was on, didn't look like a man who was about to top himself.
    lol ceefax :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    If we take it that the man did kill himself, it still however don't take away at the end of the day, from the fact that one newspaper is sure creating a hell of a mess and effecting many, many lives terribly.

    It really is saddening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    still down!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    Wow looks like Lulzsec are causing all kinds of silliness. This is fun to watch :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭dalyboy


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    We are at the stage of Empire Strikes back now with this NOTW story. It will be interesting when the return of the jedi part comes up.

    Hopefully we dont have to endure the prequels though. Mega boring dey were


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    And rightly so.

    no no.. the word conspiracy has been mentioned so only stupid people would consider this strangely timed death as suspicious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 361 ✭✭teddy_303


    This whole argument is a pretense for programming people regarding journalistic rights, based on the old Jewish practice of dividing the argument into two choices, neither of which are true, for their own purposes.
    Corruption justified?

    Willful blindness is corruption in practice. Wiki leaks is under attack here again. Do the electorate want to protect Julian Assange from prosecution for exposing governmental sanctioned corruption/murder, or would they prefer to protect the families of murder victims from exploitation in the press? Guess what? We can have both?

    Don't believe we only have two choices, we can have whatever reasonable people believe in under the law, as long as we express it!

    Make no mistake about it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    in before run to the hills
    I'm a bit late in posting on this one.

    Did anyone ever find the whistle? :p


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Biggins wrote: »
    Well if the Americans found anything serious, we'd be talking about they attempting to break up the monopoly Murdoch has on the worlds media.
    ...So this comes as no surprise.


    Who could step into the breach?

    http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRuRIPUgY9-13f2NjCoK-n-sMYOzH2HGsVDTu465NxKf-jmvGB48A


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