Poor guy

L-M

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2355189

Lol, 7 grand...

SV

Donkey!

Nevermind there being no such thing as a gt tdi but ffs..the price.
think I'll text it

redsteveireland

SV wrote: »

Donkey!

Nevermind there being no such thing as a gt tdi but ffs..the price.
think I'll text it

johnos1984

SV wrote: »

Nevermind there being no such thing as a gt tdi but ffs..the price.

Yes there is but there are a lot of fakes about

SV

No..no there isn't.
It does not exist.
It's a golf tdi HIGHLINE, rebadged by English dealers to help sales.

godtabh

SV wrote: »

No..no there isn't.
It does not exist.
It's a golf tdi HIGHLINE, rebadged by English dealers to help sales.

what about the GTD? (I think thats what is called)

johnos1984

SV wrote: »

It's a golf tdi HIGHLINE, rebadged by English dealers to help sales.

The car was sold new as a GT TDI and was on the price list therefore it was a model variant in it's own right.

You are correct in what you are saying but it would also be on the log book as a GT TDI therefore IMHO the car exists..

johnos1984

godtabh wrote: »

what about the GTD? (I think thats what is called)

Is that the older MK2 Golfs/Jetta's and the newer MK5/6 model though.

The GT TDI is MK4 only AFAIK

keithclancy

197bhp ... lol ... jaysus you'd be able to tow some trailer with that

kildare.17hmr

SV wrote: »

No..no there isn't.
It does not exist.
It's a golf tdi HIGHLINE, rebadged by English dealers to help sales.

This is true 100%, used to love tellin lads trying to trade in a GT TDI they just had a normal golf:p One day a i had a non believer in so i rang my mate in VW and gave him the chassis no while he was sitting oppisate me, "yeah thats a comfortline golf":D he was not impressed

Beta Ray Bill

2003 Golf TDi with 95k Miles

I suppose the extras cost a bit too but €7000!!!

My mate picked up a 2003 BMW 325 (2.4L one, right?) with 56K miles for €4800, so there is not way that's worth even near €7K

Ya gotta love the Dreamers!

SV

johnos1984 wrote: »

The car was sold new as a GT TDI and was on the price list therefore it was a model variant in it's own right.

You are correct in what you are saying but it would also be on the log book as a GT TDI therefore IMHO the car exists..

Just because it's on the log book doesn't make it so.
Ring VW and they'll tell you it doesn't exist.

Plug

197hp from a 1.9 diesel. He's not so much a dreamer I'd say he was on an acid trip when he wrote that.

*edit* also didn't know about the GT tdi not being a 'real' model. interesting. Did the 150hp tdi have a larger turbo or something?

JJJJNR

Says is has an upgraded turbo, 200bhp should be possible, but would need to back it up with a RR.

godtabh

johnos1984 wrote: »

Is that the older MK2 Golfs/Jetta's and the newer MK5/6 model though.

The GT TDI is MK4 only AFAIK

Golf GTD

cadaliac

Plug wrote: »

197hp from a 1.9 diesel. He's not so much a dreamer I'd say he was on an acid trip when he wrote that.

*edit* also didn't know about the GT tdi not being a 'real' model. interesting. Did the 150hp tdi have a larger turbo or something?

I think it did alright - essentially the same engine afaik.
My mechanic was telling me about a customer of his who had one of the 150bhp Diesel Golfs and had it re-mapped. Apart from him saying that it was the quickest Diesel golf he was ever in, the car was slowly pulling itself apart. Literally. The car just isn't built for close to 200bhp.
Gearbox was starting to whine and they couldn't keep cv joints in it either. There was other stuff that I just can't remember too.

johnos1984

godtabh wrote: »

Golf GTD

I know......thats what I said

johnos1984

SV wrote: »

Just because it's on the log book doesn't make it so.
Ring VW and they'll tell you it doesn't exist.

Fair enough

Nonoperational

Fascinating, if only there was a dreamers thread... oh wait http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72991771

cadaliac

cadaliac wrote: »

I think it did alright - essentially the same engine afaik.............

Intercooler is a big FM yoke on the 150s too, I can see him getting close to €6000 for that tbh.

Dont see why poeple have such an issue with the gt tdi name its better than plain old tdi anyway.

He may be dreaming at that price but people will pay silly money for them, friend of mine sold his 02 one with 170k miles for nearly 4k, it ended back around the same area a month or so later with nearly 100,000 miles less on the clock and the lad had paid nearly 6k for it he was told. It was a rough enough example too with a turbo on the way out so even 4k was mad money.

Gary ITR

I wouldn't argue too much with the dyno figure, it's certainly an achievable number with the right mods, there was a lad on vagdrivers who had his mk4 Golf van running well into the 200's although it must have been a pig to drive. I drove a Caddy that's pushing 200 there on Saturday and while powerful the power band is very narrow and it's a pig


As for the price though, well, LMFAO

polod

that is the dirtyest looking black golf ive seen that lad has destroyed the good car ...the wheels are repulsive looking .......he'd be lucky to get 3000 for that yoke IMO who is going to buy it ? maybe some clueless 17 yo rich daddy's kid maybe

kildare.17hmr

Melvin Melodic Shrimp wrote: »

Dont see why poeple have such an issue with the gt tdi name its better than plain old tdi anyway.

He may be dreaming at that price but people will pay silly money for them, friend of mine sold his 02 one with 170k miles for nearly 4k, it ended back around the same area a month or so later with nearly 100,000 miles less on the clock and the lad had paid nearly 6k for it he was told. It was a rough enough example too with a turbo on the way out so even 4k was mad money.

the issue is the fact that it is a made up name that people think means its a better car! Sticking a 12euro gt badge on he back of a golf upfront of the tdi badge does not double its price in the real world!!

kildare.17hmr

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

the issue is the fact that it is a made up name that people think means its a better car! Sticking a 12euro gt badge on he back of a golf upfront of the tdi badge does not double its price in the real world!!

I would have though the addition of the badge was to differentiate it from the lower powered TDI models, while I agree that the badge itself should not increase the price the higher bhp diesel golfs appear to be making more money than they should judging by the the story in my post.

Btw I completey agree that its insane money to be looking for a car which in reality should be going for no more than 3k. But I have seen the 3800 in cash the lad I know got for his rough enough 2002 with 170k miles so that part of the story I know is true for sure.

tossy

cadaliac wrote: »

The car just isn't built for close to 200bhp.
Gearbox was starting to whine and they couldn't keep cv joints in it either. There was other stuff that I just can't remember too.

Thecar is well able to handle that power and way beyond if you do it right,i.e right bolt on upgrades with suspension etc.

RoverJames wrote: »

Intercooler is a big FM yoke on the 150s too, I can see him getting close to €6000 for that tbh.

The FMIC on 150s is fairly pathetic bigger turbo and you would need a proper one fairly quickly.

Onkle wrote: »

there was a lad on vagdrivers who had his mk4 Golf van running well into the 200's although it must have been a pig to drive.

That van was one of the 1st highly tuned TDI golfs in Ireland or the UK many many years ago but since then there have been a few better efforts around,another guy i know had his around 230 ish with an LSD fitted made the car much easier to drive.

The owner of that golf is falling into a trap many people who spend money on their cars fall into,he is in for a harsh wake up call poor fellow.

godtabh

johnos1984 wrote: »

I know......thats what I said

that post was meant to read

as in this one -> link

tossy

tossy wrote: »

...........

The FMIC on 150s is fairly pathetic bigger turbo and you would need a proper one fairly quickly.



..........

In comparsion to what's on the lesser bhp models it's big, which is what my post was in relation to. There's enough lag out of the 150bhp without throwing in a bigger turbo too me thinks.

kildare.17hmr

Melvin Melodic Shrimp wrote: »

I would have though the addition of the badge was to differentiate it from the lower powered TDI models, while I agree that the badge itself should not increase the price the higher bhp diesel golfs appear to be making more money than they should judging by the the story in my post.<br />
<br />
Btw I completey agree that its insane money to be looking for a car which in reality should be going for no more than 3k. But I have seen the 3800 in cash the lad I know got for his rough enough 2002 with 170k miles so that part of the story I know is true for sure.

<br />
most of the gt tdi golf i have seen are rebadged 115 or 130bhp ccomfortlines with 6 speed gear box so its not that they are higher bhp at all, this one is obviously because it has a few extra bits but its still crazy money to be asking. i believe you about your mates one because i have had a few of them over the last few years and no what i sold them for just because people thought they were something special

sean1141

id say thats a 115bhp standard?? front brakes look very small. the 130/150bhp had bigger disks and pads/calipers. would 197 not be low power for the mods he has?? my 150 should see about 180ish with just a remap..

oh and on the GT thing, vw never made a gt tdi. as said they were badged by dealers. look at the data sticker in the boot. everyone of them will have either highline (HL) or comfort line (CL) printed on them. unless some chancer tried sticking a GT badge on a baseline!!
the only exception was some of the 150bhp ones, mostly the anni model which have GTI TDI printed on the sticker.

bazz26

The sad thing is that he will probably get close to his asking price for it as some young lads get all weak at the knees for these yokes.

You know what they say about fools and their money.

Gary ITR

bazz26 wrote: »

The sad thing is that he will probably get close to his asking price for it as some young lads get all weak at the knees for these yokes.

You know what they say about fools and their money.

Turbo diesel is the new vtec

tossy

True but at least with a Gee Tee Tee Dee Ayeeeeeee the actual available power kicks in some time before Christmas

Gary ITR

tossy wrote: »

True but at least with a Gee Tee Tee Dee Ayeeeeeee the actual available power kicks in some time before Christmas

Yeah and it's gone just as quick...

tossy

Onkle wrote: »

Yeah and it's gone just as quick...

ha ha good come back boss and so true.

VolvoMan

its dynod at 197bhp but can b tuned up alot more

Aye lad, these cars also have savage performance once ya put the shoe in.

TestTransmission

And TDI drivers wonder why we mock them :pac:

Gary ITR

tossy wrote: »

ha ha good come back boss and so true.

Exactly! See you forget that I drove TDI's for quite some time :pac: Not my fault I've seen the light

polod

Onkle wrote: »

Exactly! See you forget that I drove TDI's for quite some time :pac: Not my fault I've seen the light

really and what do you drive now thats better than a tdi ?

dell1211

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

the issue is the fact that it is a made up name that people think means its a better car! Sticking a 12euro gt badge on he back of a golf upfront of the tdi badge does not double its price in the real world!!

Its not a made up name:rolleyes:, the distributors in the UK added this, they are the official volkswagen distributor in the UK, they are even owned by Volkswagen themselves. The badge was added by them, it was registered this way by them, the V5 clearly states this.

A car with GT TDI written on the log book is a much better car than a non GT TDI golf(unless its a highline). Lowered, sports seats, colored rub strips to name a few of of the differences which make it a much nicer car. If you were selling a car has a certain spec(which is clearly written on the log book) would you not advertise it as so?

Btw I dont own one, it just really annoys me that nobody can mention the word GT TDI without the usual "know it alls"" people posting the same rubbish. And I also think that the car has tasteless exterior modifications and is overpriced, you'd nearly buy a Mk5 GTI for that price

L-M

polod wrote: »

really and what do you drive now thats better than a tdi ?

No he drives a Honda that he's currently rebuilding the engine in :pac:

-Chris-

On the plus side, we've finally found a Done Deal ad where the seller is actually happy to receive text messages.

kildare.17hmr

dell1211 wrote: »

Its not a made up name:rolleyes:, the distributors in the UK added this, they are the official volkswagen distributor in the UK, they are even owned by Volkswagen themselves. The badge was added by them, it was registered this way by them, the V5 clearly states this.

A car with GT TDI written on the log book is a much better car than a non GT TDI golf(unless its a highline). Lowered, sports seats, colored rub strips to name a few of of the differences which make it a much nicer car. If you were selling a car has a certain spec(which is clearly written on the log book) would you not advertise it as so?

Btw I dont own one, it just really annoys me that nobody can mention the word GT TDI without the usual "know it alls"" people posting the same rubbish. And I also think that the car has tasteless exterior modifications and is overpriced, you'd nearly buy a Mk5 GTI for that price

Ring VW they wil tell you exactly what i have said. It is a name made up by the UK importers.


i work for mercedes, if i decide to stick AMG badges on a merc with a few extras and sell it as something its not is that ok??? there is no gt tdi from VW no matter how many times people say there is.

Im not saying they are not a higher spec car, they are usually a very good spec highline or comfortline but that is what they are, not a GT TDI. its very simple really

johnos1984

But is a GT TDI not a spec line?

Gary ITR

Limerick man wrote: »

No he drives a Honda that he's currently rebuilding the engine in :pac:

Building a race spec engine with the intention of retiring it to the track

Gary ITR

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Ill prep the gravel trap at turn 1 in that case :pac:

Well you're in it often enough, you might as well do something while you're there :pac:

dell1211

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Im not saying they are not a higher spec car, they are usually a very good spec highline or comfortline but that is what they are, not a GT TDI. its very simple really

Read my last post where I have quoted your post, thats exactly what you said. You basically said that he paid EUR12 for a badge and he made up a spec. BTW a GT TDI is a highline not a comfortline.

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Ring VW they wil tell you exactly what i have said. It is a name made up by the UK importers.


i work for mercedes, if i decide to stick AMG badges on a merc with a few extras and sell it as something its not is that ok??? there is no gt tdi from VW no matter how many times people say there is.

Why would you ring Volkswagen Ireland? That car is an import(see mywheels below where it is clearly registered as a GT TDI therefore was originally sold in the UK), it was produced for the UK market by Volkswagen where Volkswagen Uk(ie the distributor not the dealer who are owned by VW) assigned it a spec. Surely thats the same thing as ringing Volkswagen India and asking them about a Mk5 GTI Pirelli edition which was sold to some customer in dingle which they would know nothing about.

Following your logic does a US special edition of the vw split screen camper lose its unique badging as soon as it leaves the US because it was never sold in Ireland? If you import a Holden monaro should you replace the badges with an opel? If you import a mustang shelby should you put capri badges on it?

By the way if you stick an AMG badge on a merc the tax office wont register it as an amg, they will go by the spec as provided by the manufacturer/distributor not a person who works in the garage.

You are slagging of the owner of that golf for describing his car exactly as his car is described on his log book and what it has been described from day one, exactly as Volkswagen UK described it in all their advertising.

Mywheels:
Volkswagen Golf

GT 1.9 D TDI 130 BHP B

See ImagesRegistration:02WH5153Engine:1.9LFuel Type:Diesel Colour:Black

challengemaster

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Ill prep the gravel trap at turn 1 in that case :pac:

There's plenty of gravel all over honda, around the paddock and plenty other places after the weekend...

tossy

dell1211 wrote: »

Why would you ring Volkswagen Ireland? That car is an import(see mywheels below where it is clearly registered as a GT TDI therefore was originally sold in the UK), it was produced for the UK market by Volkswagen where Volkswagen Uk(ie the distributor not the dealer who are owned by VW) assigned it a spec..

So if we have 2 130 TDI golfs and one is a Gee Tee and the other is just a normal TDI and both are highline spec then what is the difference?

Gary ITR

tossy wrote: »

So if we have 2 130 TDI golfs and one is a Gee Tee and the other is just a normal TDI and both are highline spec then what is the difference?

The badge

dell1211

tossy wrote: »

So if we have 2 130 TDI golfs and one is a Gee Tee and the other is just a normal TDI and both are highline spec then what is the difference?

3rd sentence of my last post