Tracing Lynagh Genealogy

naledge

I'm having trouble finding the information I need. I'm interested in creating a family tree, at the moment I'm trying to find out specifically if and how I'm related to Jim Lynagh.

I've found out very little information about their family, only the names of four of the twelve siblings, one of their husbands and a few other small things.

I need to know their grandfather/great-grandfather's names.

I was considering contacting Long Kesh, Portalaoise Prison, whoever hands out the UK exclusion orders, Monaghan Urban District Council, Christian Brothers School, St. Davnet's Psychiatric Hospital and Mountjoy Prison.

As I know Jim and Michael Lynagh were connected to those places, I would like to somehow get records from them. But how can I do that from Australia? Would they even give the records out?

pinkypinky

Hi there,

Here's a list of births, deaths & marriages with the name Lynagh in Co. Monaghan from Familysearch. I just went from 1900 - 1958 (most recent year available online). It looks like a couple of James and a Seamus (the Irish for James) and a Michael with a mother's maiden name of Shields.

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#alivePlaceLoc1=Monaghan%2C%20Ireland&placeId=1928906&surname=lynagh&toYear=1958&p=recordResults&year=1900&searchType=close

There are no Monaghan Lynaghs on the 1901 or the 1911 but there are approx 250 people with that surname for the whole country on each.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1901&surname=Lynagh&exact=&firstname=&county=&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=100

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1911&surname=Lynagh&exact=&firstname=&county=&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&search=Search&sort=surnameSort&pageSize=100

If you want to give us a bit more info, we might be able to narrow it down for you.

PP.

naledge

pinkypinky wrote: »

Hi there,

Here's a list of births, deaths & marriages with the name Lynagh in Co. Monaghan from Familysearch. I just went from 1900 - 1958 (most recent year available online). It looks like a couple of James and a Seamus (the Irish for James) and a Michael with a mother's maiden name of Shields.

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#alivePlaceLoc1=Monaghan%2C%20Ireland&placeId=1928906&surname=lynagh&toYear=1958&p=recordResults&year=1900&searchType=close

There are no Monaghan Lynaghs on the 1901 or the 1911 but there are approx 250 people with that surname for the whole country on each.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1901&surname=Lynagh&exact=&firstname=&county=&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=100

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/results.jsp?census_year=1911&surname=Lynagh&exact=&firstname=&county=&townland=&ded=&age=&sex=&relationToHead=&religion=&education=&occupation=&marriageStatus=&marriageYears=&childrenBorn=&childrenLiving=&birthplace=&language=&deafdumb=&search=Search&sort=surnameSort&pageSize=100

If you want to give us a bit more info, we might be able to narrow it down for you.

PP.

Okay well from what I already found out and from the information you gave me I've worked out:

James P Lynagh (not 100% on his first name) married Carmel F Shields. Their children were; Patricia Lynagh, Finbar Lynagh, Michael Andrew Lynagh, Colm Lynagh, Mary Lynagh (married Seamus Shannon), Carmel Lynagh, Jim Lynagh and five others I've yet to find the names of.

I'm mainly interested in the father's parents names. His possible siblings are Margaret B Lynagh, Eileen T A Lynagh, Michael A Lynagh.

The birth years I found out are:

Carmel Shields - 1934
Patricia Lynagh - 1953
Mary Lynagh - 1958
Carmel Lynagh - 1957
Jim Lynagh - 1956

There's a chance that the father was a psychiatric nurse at St. Davnet's Psychiatric Hospital.

pinkypinky

The next step is to order the parents marriage certificate then - James Lynagh & Carmel Shields' marriage cert will show their fathers' names and from there you can search for James' birth cert, which will give you his mother's full name.

As you've already worked out, these are the matching index details for their marriage:

Name: James P Lynagh
Registration District: Monaghan
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1953
Volume Number: 3
Page Number: 135

Name: Carmel F Shields
Registration District: Monaghan
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1953
Volume Number: 3
Page Number: 135

You can order this cert by fax or post from the GRO. Download the marriage form here: http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm
The form is set up for living or recently dead people but fill in the information you have and in your cover note, put the above details and send either your credit card details or a Euro postal order for €4. I have safely faxed them my credit card details before. You should have the cert within a couple of weeks.

naledge

pinkypinky wrote: »

The next step is to order the parents marriage certificate then - James Lynagh & Carmel Shields' marriage cert will show their fathers' names and from there you can search for James' birth cert, which will give you his mother's full name.

As you've already worked out, these are the matching index details for their marriage:

Name: James P Lynagh
Registration District: Monaghan
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1953
Volume Number: 3
Page Number: 135

Name: Carmel F Shields
Registration District: Monaghan
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1953
Volume Number: 3
Page Number: 135

You can order this cert by fax or post from the GRO. Download the marriage form here: http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm
The form is set up for living or recently dead people but fill in the information you have and in your cover note, put the above details and send either your credit card details or a Euro postal order for €4. I have safely faxed them my credit card details before. You should have the cert within a couple of weeks.

That's fantastic, thank you so much. They're $50 here in Australia and I don't think they let you order them if the couple are still alive, Ireland's wonderful.

pinkypinky

Public records are public records and anyone can access them!

P. J. Clarke

What is the connection between the Shields and a Thomas Clarke, who worked in Patons of Monaghan town. The Clarkes lived in Canal Street.

lynaghshannon

How is the search going? I too am interested in creating a genealogy tree and maybe our branches connect!
Carmel Shields and Seamus Lynagh are my grandparents.

P. J. Clarke

My dad was Thomas Clarke from Canal Street in Monaghan. My Mum was Rose Ann Mulreaney (Mulrainey) from Legane, Aughanacloy. My brothers, who were born in Monaghan, are Raymond (deceased) and Vivion; Sisters: Myrtle, Mary (deceased), Francis (deceased), named after her uncle (my mother's brother); Patricia and Kathleen (deceased). My name is Patrick Joseph Macartan (born in Mayo) after the family migrated to here in 1938. My father worked in Paton's. My mother's mother name was Downey. Dad's father was Thomas Philip Clarke, also from Canal Street, as per census. Carmel, according to mom (deceased) you granny was mom's niece and visited her here in Mayo many years ago. I was talking to Philip Lynagh at Carmel's funeral last year and visited my grandfather's grave (Tom Clarke) in the old graveyard in Monaghan town. There are also the Shield's family and the Loughran family. My mother did not say very much but I understand that there was a Penny Toner born to her niece in Belfast, and it was reported to be the smallest baby born in Ireland.