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Vitali Klitschko wants to follow brother Vitali and cut David Haye down

  • 11-07-2011 8:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭


    Poor old David Haye. If it was not bad enough having his ears boxed off by Wladimir Klitschko, it now appears the Ukrainian’s bigger and badder older brother wants to finish the job rather more conclusively and concussively.

    “It is personal,” warned Vitali Klitschko, exuding such menace that you feared he wished to do more than stamp on Haye’s broken little toe.

    Boxing’s brothers in arms were in London, promoting a new documentary about their fascinating lives, and it was a sheer delight to hear these intelligent, worldly souls expounding on life beyond trash talking, what with Vitali’s dream of transforming his country as a crusading politician and Wlad displaying an unlikely weakness for the wisdom of Richard Branson.

    Yet even as they vowed once again that the only authentic mega-fight in heavyweight boxing today will never happen – “Not even for a billion dollars,” remains their response to whether they would ever fight their brother — it was evident that they fancy there may be some unfinished business as they are still seething about Haye’s pre-fight excesses with those T-shirts showing off their bloody, decapitated heads.

    Hmm. Not the best idea, perhaps. Now Haye has got Vitali mad. “We had to explain to our parents, ‘don’t worry about that, it’s not real’ and that he’s a guy who’s sick. I’m always very controlled but I was shocked, very angry. Now, it’s more personal,” he said, warrior’s battered nose ­practically twitching.

    He sounds more indignant than Wlad who, while still irritated too about Haye’s little toe wailing following his points’ defeat, thinks he has a remedy for public self-delusion. “I’ve been reading your countryman Richard Branson’s books a lot and one of his good lines is ‘never explain, never complain’. David Haye should remember it.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/boxingandmma/8631031/Vitali-Klitschko-wants-to-follow-brother-Vitali-and-cut-David-Haye-down.html

    Thats taken from the Telegraph.

    Will Haye step up??

    He didn't sound so confident in the post-match press conference when Wlad passed on a question to him about a rematch?

    If an offer is on the table, he has to take it doesn't he??


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭GiftofGab


    Doubt Haye will take this fight. He got embarresed enough against Wlad. Everybody knows they can't take him seriously now - he'll just fade away.

    Wlad is a good fighter, vitali is a great fighter, it would be too one sided anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Kells...


    Titles a bit messed up btw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭SanoVitae


    GiftofGab wrote: »
    Doubt Haye will take this fight. He got embarresed enough against Wlad.

    I don't think he got embarrassed by Wlad. He simply didn't back up any of his pre-fight talk and disappointed those who bought into the hype.

    He embarrassed himself when he started going on about his broken little toe - truly cringeworthy viewing.

    The boxing version of Tom Cruise jumping up and down on Oprah's couch.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,721 ✭✭✭Kells...


    I can see Haye taking this for the money money money.


    No other reason other than that.


    Vitali is a lot better boxer than his brother.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    I'm suprised Vitali is risking the Klitscko's titles against Haye, they have the titles so why would they care? Having said that, Vitali would be 40 if a fight happened so maybe Father Time could have a say if it happened. I won't say much, but along with Vitali being more aggressive than Wladimir who knows the outcome.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    Maybe Vitali takes a pay day and hits the canvas, setting up a Vlad rematch with titles on the line for unification ?
    Seems logical


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭badabing106


    Haye is not going to fight vitali, he has already said as much after he got beaten by
    Vlad. Haye would be destroyed by Vitali and he knows that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭colly10


    CorkMan wrote: »
    I'm suprised Vitali is risking the Klitscko's titles against Haye, they have the titles so why would they care? Having said that, Vitali would be 40 if a fight happened so maybe Father Time could have a say if it happened. I won't say much, but along with Vitali being more aggressive than Wladimir who knows the outcome.

    Haye is not going to fight Vitali, the fight is a foregone conclusion and haye has always known it. Vitali's chin and punch aren't suddenly going to disappear after a year. He won't have an issue taking haye's shots and the fact he's happy to mix it will just mean an early night for haye.

    This fight will never happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    If this fight were to go ahead, I'd place in the same bracket as the Haye/Harrison fight.

    The only reason Vitali is interested is the nice pay packet Wlad got. The only reason Haye would put himself in for a bigger trimming is for the golden handshake. The promoting of the fight would revolve around Haye's trash talk of the two brothers though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭clubwelly


    I'm a Haye fan and the only way this could go ahead is if Haye goes back beats 2/3 others one or two of which would have to be Arreola, Povetkin or Adamek. I still think he'd loose unless he went out looking for the ko but I don't think he wud consider this as he's just as likely to get ko'd himself.

    But then again money talks and it prob is the biggest earner out there


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 aidoroch


    prior to wlad, haye fought 4 heavyweights in his career. All of who were old and kinda rubbish.

    A lot was made of hayes power that he had at cruiserweight but i dont recall a lot of one punch ko's and Enzo Mac had a very bad chin. broken toe or not though, haye did land some shots that I do think were the best he has and they didnt shake wlad.

    Haye did very well in winning the cruiserweight world titles and again winning the world title but he is not an elite fighter. It would have been interesting to see him against the other fighters in the division who are sub klitchko ie povetkin, sam peter, arreola, etc. instead he took the other fights and was not well prepared for wlad at all. plus he didnt throw nearly enough punches.

    if he does in fact just retire now at 31 fair enough, too many boxers hang around too long. he would be criticised for going back to cruiser and he'd a few fights away from a title shot.

    as for the heavyweights, if you dont like the brothers it doesnt mean its a bad division. there are some very interesting fights out there, all non klitchko though and knowing the politics of boxing chances are some of the titles will be stripped soon to make things interesting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Haye should take the fight, because it's the only fight that anyone will give a shít about him in. If he wants one last payday, this should be it. Vitali will stop him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    aidoroch wrote: »
    if he does in fact just retire now at 31 fair enough, too many boxers hang around too long. he would be criticised for going back to cruiser and he'd a few fights away from a title shot.

    as for the heavyweights, if you dont like the brothers it doesnt mean its a bad division. there are some very interesting fights out there, all non klitchko though and knowing the politics of boxing chances are some of the titles will be stripped soon to make things interesting.

    That is what is wrong with the Heavyweight division. "If you don't like the brothers". The HW Championship should be something that is admired, that fans love, not something that some people think is "alright/only oookay". It is the reason none of the Klitschko's have broken into the lucrative US market. Previous great champions were exciting they kept you on the edge of the seat, they kept your eyes open.

    If Klitschko's stays the champions by keeping the fighters at a distance, jabbing and playing completely safe, whatever. People will say keeping the title is the main thing, but I definitely will be keeping my eyes closed if I see them on TV. It is not their nationality BTW, Lennox Lewis was non-American yet he sold extremely well in tthe states, why? 'Cos he is something the fans want to watch. Whenever Manny Pacquiao fights there he sells millions of PPV buys and I congratulate him. Whenever he takes 3 punches to get in 1 solid punch, I congratulate him. Whenever he goes into the fight and goes for the KO, I congratulate him while sitting at the edge of my seat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,396 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Ill still watch it, any reason to see Haye get destroyed again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭plasmaguy


    Klitchscho brothers while good fighters are entirely predictable and I don't think many people would pay for Haye-Vitali, because the fight would go something like this:

    Haye doesn't jab or go for Vitali's body, just hangs back waiting for one or two big punches a round.
    Vitali jabs for 12 rounds with the odd right hand. If Haye hits him with a big punch Vitali just grabs onto Haye and doesn't let go.

    Entirely predictable and a foregone conclusion.

    But big paydays for both fighters before probable retirement, so that's why it will probably happen.

    Vitali has a phd so he's not dumb enough to turn down a big pay day. Jab and hold, jab and hold for 12 rounds. Then collect his 10 million euro paycheck. Easiest 10 million he will ever make and he knows it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    plasmaguy wrote: »
    Klitchscho brothers while good fighters are entirely predictable and I don't think many people would pay for Haye-Vitali, because the fight would go something like this:

    Haye doesn't jab or go for Vitali's body, just hangs back waiting for one or two big punches a round.
    Vitali jabs for 12 rounds with the odd right hand. If Haye hits him with a big punch Vitali just grabs onto Haye and doesn't let go.

    Entirely predictable and a foregone conclusion.

    But big paydays for both fighters before probable retirement, so that's why it will probably happen.

    Vitali has a phd so he's not dumb enough to turn down a big pay day. Jab and hold, jab and hold for 12 rounds. Then collect his 10 million euro paycheck. Easiest 10 million he will ever make and he knows it.

    Or just KO Haye in the first, Vitali is a different animal to Wlad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 aidoroch


    where does this mentality that its ok to be a valiant loser come from and that the brothers should go out and be reckless. Im a big fan of them and they are very professional in what they do. Floyd mayweather and B-hopkins both have the mentality to stay in shape between fights and do whatever it takes to win, even if that is be defensive and spoil and they dont get half the criticism. winning is winning and thats what will be remembered. Lewis was also a Jabber and a lot of people only started to like him since he retired so maybe wlad and vitali will be missed in a few years.

    also, against the klitschko's why do a lot of fighters try to spend a few rounds figuring them out, nobody ever goes in to try and pressure and unsettle them. When Lewis beat vitali he wasnt looking at the cards, he picked a point and cut him and worked it. Haye landed about 5 shots on wlad and he was looking tender under his left eye, a more physical fighter could have opened up a cut. These guys are not going to drop points decisions because a, they are in great physical shape and are huge and b, they fight in germany. They are also not likely to get knocked out as wlad has adjusted his style and vitali could always take a punch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭plasmaguy


    Usually in the Heavyweight division if two fighters want to get it on, they usually end up fighting.

    The ball is in Haye's court now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭plasmaguy


    Johner wrote: »
    Or just KO Haye in the first, Vitali is a different animal to Wlad.

    Doubtful. Haye is difficult to knock down. I know he was knocked down at cruiser weight before, but he didn't look like he would be at heavyweight.

    He has good movement, but that's about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    plasmaguy wrote: »
    Doubtful. Haye is difficult to knock down. I know he was knocked down at cruiser weight before, but he didn't look like he would be at heavyweight.

    He has good movement, but that's about it.

    Only cause he runs like mad

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



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