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Bad side of weight loss-advice?

  • 10-07-2011 2:42am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭TheRealSquishy


    Ok so I started weightwatchers 2 months ago and I'm nearly a stone down. I love my new almost flat-ish :P tummy but my boobs have become waaay smaller too.

    I really love my boobs and I'm genuinely upset that they're disappearing. I've always had big boobs and I feel like smaller boobs just aren't me.

    So do I keep losing the weight and enjoy my new tummy which I've always dreamt of or put a bit back on and keep the boobs I love so much? Advice would be appreciated ladies, what would you do?:confused:


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭Lia_lia


    Err. Well if the weight you are (or were) at is unhealthy than you should probably forget about your boob size and lose weight for the health side of it.

    I'm lucky as no matter what weight I am my boobs stay tiny :/ Grr!


    Or get a boob job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭Cerocco


    If only that was my dilemma!! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭TheRealSquishy


    Nope was never at a very unhealthy level just always been on the chubby side! I can't believe I didn't realise this would happen, I thought big boobs ran in my family (until today when I realised it's because every woman in my family is also on the chubby side :P) .

    It's been tough enough to lose and I'm really happy with it but the thoughts of having to sacrifice my boobs as well as my chocolate is p1ssing me off!

    If I win the euromillions tesday night it's lipo and boob jobs all round :P

    Just don't know which to go with now I literally love them both!

    Yeah I wouldn't mind but I really do have better things to be worrying about and this is the thing that's keeping me awake!:rolleyes::P


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    Im a size 16 and heard group of guys call me fat tonight.Not one of them had good bodies or were attractive.Is it men now these days go on like this ? I spent so long with a guy for years I never realised what society had become.But in relation to the topic ,your boobs are probobly in proportion now if they got smaller.Love yourself and stop looking for perfection


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,461 ✭✭✭dee.


    eternal wrote: »
    Im a size 16 and heard group of guys call me fat tonight.Not one of them had good bodies or were attractive.Is it men now these days go on like this ? I spent so long with a guy for years I never realised what society had become.But in relation to the topic ,your boobs are probobly in proportion now if they got smaller.Love yourself and stop looking for perfection

    Ah don't worry about it. I'm a size 16 too and I was out last year and some guy said to his friend "here's a fat b1tch for ya" to which I responded "I'm fat, not desperate" and that knocked the smirk off their faces. People can be arseholes and even more so when they're drunk. That was the first comment I had about my weight/size in years, I'm comfortable with my body so it really didn't bother me. Don't let it bother you either!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭sambuka41


    eternal wrote: »
    Love yourself and stop looking for perfection

    This is very good advice. OP you lost weight not cause you needed to but because you wanted a certain aesthetic, the same one that so many women are trying to achieve but the fact is that its not realistic, very few women naturally have flat tummys and big boobs. Whats realistic is that if you lose weight you'll most likely lose it everywhere.

    Maybe look at the motivations for why you lost the weight in the first place, cause this is a never ending spiral of perfection seeking. (unless it becomes pathological then it will end in death on a surgical table or as a reaction against some surgery)


    And fair play dee in putting that aggression back where it belongs. Whether its done by women or men, those snide remarks are the persons aggression, put it back with them!! (MUCH easier said than done:p)




  • Well, boobs are mostly fat, after all. Most people lose their boobs when they lose a lot of weight. Personally, I'd much, much rather have a slim waist and small boobs but also from a health perspective, it isn't good to be carrying excess weight around your waist or to be overweight in general. Congrats on the weight loss and my advice would be to wear clothes that make your boobs look bigger, padded bras etc rather than put the weight back on!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭booboo88


    eternal wrote: »
    Im a size 16 and heard group of guys call me fat tonight.Not one of them had good bodies or were attractive.Is it men now these days go on like this ? I spent so long with a guy for years I never realised what society had become.But in relation to the topic ,your boobs are probobly in proportion now if they got smaller.Love yourself and stop looking for perfection

    Ive come across the same, even my ex apparently goes "whaling" his words, as "fat girls are easier to pull" ive lost a bit of weight though and im keep losing more.

    op id love smaller boobs, wanna swap?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    OP, would you be interested in trying some exercises to strengthen the muscles in your chest? That may make your boobs perkier and look bigger. You might have lost the fatty tissue, but you still have muscle there, and light hand weights with the right exercises can make a visible difference (although don't expect to see much for about 6 weeks apparently). Also, if you ARE going to do that, make sure you're getting advice from someone who actually knows what they're talking about (not just me throwing something that worked for me at you on the internet!) so you don't injure yourself! :)

    Well done, it can be really challenging to lose weight, be proud of yourself!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,401 ✭✭✭✭x Purple Pawprints x


    eternal wrote: »
    Im a size 16 and heard group of guys call me fat tonight.Not one of them had good bodies or were attractive.Is it men now these days go on like this ? I spent so long with a guy for years I never realised what society had become.But in relation to the topic ,your boobs are probobly in proportion now if they got smaller.Love yourself and stop looking for perfection

    To be honest in my head size 16 is not fat. Some guys are just idiots. They think all girls should be stick thin with 40DD breasts. I'm a size 18/20 and I'm small so I can't carry the weight which is why I'm trying to lose some at the moment. I have big boobs as well and actually didn't think about losing weight there until I read the thread. Hopefully they won't get too small because I like them (and so does my bf ;)). I'll see how I get on. I really need to lose the weight so if they get a tiny bit smaller it's ok, I just hope it's nothing drastic.

    Anyway to answer the OP, if you're still unhappy with your weight keep going. If you feel comfortable, up your points so you're on maintenance rather than weight loss.

    Blush_01 I'd be interested in finding out more about those exercises just in case. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭booboo88


    Jane_LS_88 wrote: »
    To be honest in my head size 16 is not fat. Some guys are just idiots. They think all girls should be stick thin with 40DD breasts. I'm a size 18/20 and I'm small so I can't carry the weight which is why I'm trying to lose some at the moment. I have big boobs as well and actually didn't think about losing weight there until I read the thread. Hopefully they won't get too small because I like them (and so does my bf ;)). I'll see how I get on. I really need to lose the weight so if they get a tiny bit smaller it's ok, I just hope it's nothing drastic.

    Anyway to answer the OP, if you're still unhappy with your weight keep going. If you feel comfortable, up your points so you're on maintenance rather than weight loss.

    Blush_01 I'd be interested in finding out more about those exercises just in case. :)
    im the same, my problem is the food, healthy fat free food is boring and tasteless.
    but i dont have the time for weight watchers....10 hour shifts :(
    any one got any tips? to be honest i want the small boobs


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Brian Witty Bellboy


    booboo88 wrote: »
    im the same, my problem is the food, healthy fat free food is boring and tasteless.
    but i dont have the time for weight watchers....10 hour shifts :(
    any one got any tips? to be honest i want the small boobs

    If you're eating sugary fat free crap, there's your problem

    go to the health & nutrition forum and get tips from the stickies and people there.
    wouldn't be a fan of WW at all but it does work for some people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭Sarah Bear


    booboo88 wrote: »
    im the same, my problem is the food, healthy fat free food is boring and tasteless.
    but i dont have the time for weight watchers....10 hour shifts :(
    any one got any tips? to be honest i want the small boobs

    of course you have time for weightwatchers.. the meetings are 30 mins a week! healthy food doesnt have to be boring!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭booboo88


    Sarah Bear wrote: »
    of course you have time for weightwatchers.. the meetings are 30 mins a week! healthy food doesnt have to be boring!

    i finsh work at 8, i get into town for 9? do they have weekend meetings?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Stargazer7


    @ Bluewolf
    I agree with you on the sugary/sweetened fat free crap - when i was in college last year working on my thesis and 4pm came I used to crave some caffeine and a treat. The odd time I did go for it I used to pick up nutri grain bars or something like.....but I realised I was much better off buying a small bar of high cocoa dark choc and having a few squares. Much nicer and probably just as much sugar if not less!

    Also, healthy food is anything but boring and tasteless...it's just one of those common silly misconceptions that fast food/junk food companies put out there. Granted a bit of fat/sugar is nice now and then but you can make some of the tastiest meals with lovely fresh food. The net is great for healthy recipes for all tastes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,401 ✭✭✭✭x Purple Pawprints x


    booboo88 wrote: »
    im the same, my problem is the food, healthy fat free food is boring and tasteless.
    but i dont have the time for weight watchers....10 hour shifts :(
    any one got any tips? to be honest i want the small boobs

    You really don't need the meetings when you're doing WW. If you're determined it can really work. I don't go to the meetings anymore now. I did when I lost the last bit of weight (luckily I kept if off but more of it needs to go). You can join online now also. I'm still using the old points system, not the new ProPoints one because it worked for me last time so I don't really want to change. I have the little slide out chart thing and the books so I can work out the number of points in things. Once you eat three healthy meals per day, don't go over your points allowance and get some exercise you'll lose the weight. Doesn't happen that quickly but I found if I lose it too fast I put it back on very easily.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,532 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    Blush_01 wrote: »
    OP, would you be interested in trying some exercises to strengthen the muscles in your chest? That may make your boobs perkier and look bigger. You might have lost the fatty tissue, but you still have muscle there, and light hand weights with the right exercises can make a visible difference (although don't expect to see much for about 6 weeks apparently).
    Good suggestion, which also contributes to fitness and firmness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭TheRealSquishy


    Thanks blush I'll definitely look those up! yay!

    I am really happy with where I am now and I only have a small bit more to lose (going on maintenance when I hit a 22 BMI) so I probably will keep at it. I just miss the pups so much already!

    Size 16 is fat? What? :eek: I genuinely call that curvy! I've always been a 14 and I'm small too so I guess I wasn't just a bit chubby after all :rolleyes:

    Yeah I have that kinda F**k you attitude aswel with haters, nobody's perfect like :) but i eventually done this for me, to feel comfy in my own body (not perfect as someone suggested i want to be I'll always be far from perfect!) Just got sick of carrying it all on my belly and luckily that's where it is going from. I have massive thighs but I quite like my shape :confused: so I'm grand with the weight not moving from them!


    I just feel so unwomanly with smaller boobs, which I know sounds stupid but I do!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP, I personally loved that my boobs got smaller with weight loss. :)

    I went from a 36DD/E to 36C and they possibly will get even smaller still. Why I am happy? Because they are more in proportion with my height and frame now. I didn't have true big boobs, just fat boobs and naturally when I started to lose weight, they decreased.

    As someone said, your boobs may really suit you at the size you're at now, and maybe you just can't see that. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 645 ✭✭✭chicken fingers


    Jane_LS_88 wrote: »
    To be honest in my head size 16 is not fat. Some guys are just idiots. They think all girls should be stick thin with 40DD breasts. I'm a size 18/20 and I'm small so I can't carry the weight
    Very, very few guys think like that. Everybody comes in different shapes and sizes, and everybody has a natural weight and shape.

    18/20 is not small.... at 22 or 23 years of age its quite obese and is a genuine health concern.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭Dolbert


    Very, very few guys think like that. Everybody comes in different shapes and sizes, and everybody has a natural weight and shape.

    18/20 is not small.... at 22 or 23 years of age its quite obese and is a genuine health concern.

    She has already said that she's trying to lose the weight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭Lola92


    18/20 is not small.... at 22 or 23 years of age its quite obese and is a genuine health concern.

    I think the poster meant they are a size 18/20 with a small height/frame, not that size 20 is small!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    I dont think that a size 16 is huge either.I was bigger and am losing weight.Theres always going to be some arsehole dragging you down.Still hurts though.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    eternal wrote: »
    I dont think that a size 16 is huge either.I was bigger and am losing weight.Theres always going to be some arsehole dragging you down.Still hurts though.

    Women will also judge you tbh, it's not just men who do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,401 ✭✭✭✭x Purple Pawprints x


    Very, very few guys think like that. Everybody comes in different shapes and sizes, and everybody has a natural weight and shape.

    18/20 is not small.... at 22 or 23 years of age its quite obese and is a genuine health concern.

    The guys in question obviously did think like that if they think size 16 is fat. I am well aware that I'm obese. I did say I was trying to lose weight. I meant that I was small in height.
    Dolorous wrote: »
    She has already said that she's trying to lose the weight.

    Thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,401 ✭✭✭✭x Purple Pawprints x


    Stheno wrote: »
    Women will also judge you tbh, it's not just men who do so.

    That's very very true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,401 ✭✭✭✭x Purple Pawprints x


    EDIT: Double post, sorry.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭eternal


    Stheno wrote: »
    Women will also judge you tbh, it's not just men who do so.
    I said areshole ! Kind of encompasses both sexes.
    I can remember when I was too thin and unhealthily underweight and in that time I got the most compliments from men on my figure.Think it was cos my boobs were huge and I was like a stick which according to some is the ideal body.Its not healthy though and long term damage can be done without proper nutrients getting into the body.
    I didnt have an eating disorder or anything ,it was just a phase.
    I think Id rather be this size then be like that again.I didnt have an ass Id say ,ever, till I reached a 14.I think 14 can be a nice size.
    And I will say again - no MATTER WHAT you look like there will always be someone with something negative to say about you.The amount of insults I have had from so many people about the way I look and I honestly dont know what their problem was.And when I say that ,I mean it was unprovoked and just insults coming from nowhere .Its like other people want to drag you down constantly.Even on the soccer forum here ,when Pique from FC Barca started dating Shakira ,and some guy said she was disgusting looking or something ,cant remember the exact words.
    I mean ,it just shows no matter how beautiful you are someone will have something to say .
    You can talk forever on this.And yeah ,Cheryl Cole is a 'chav' ,thats another one . F88ing joke.
    And I am using these as an example of the worlds most stunning women and still arseholes dragging them down.What hope have us regular women have ? ignore them I say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I was a 14 -16 for a long time and with been run off my feet with work and going back to college part time I lost weight, now a 10 -12. I didnt really lose weight off my boobs so they are DD! Guys are now around me like flies. However it kind off pisses me off that when I meet a guy I havent seen in awhile and he says your so hot now, hello Im the same person inside. I overheard a guy say to another that he wouldnt have touched me before as I was fairly fat but now he wants to ask me out and I had a banging body! Jesus a 14 -16 isnt that big! I think men have a distorted view of womens bodies through the media!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭ToniTuddle


    I posted about this issue in another forum well kinda.....basically asked if there was anyway to lose weight but keep my boobs :pac:

    The only suggestion is those special exercises to work the muscles in your chest. Was told to do push ups, overhead press exercises and arm fly exercises!

    I've been putting on weight over the last 3 years and the increased boobs are great :D Buuuuut it's not so great now as over half my clothes don't fit and all my bras are too small :eek: So instead of buying whole new wardrobe I'm just gonna have to go the healthy option and lose some weight!

    As was suggested in the other thread that when your waist gets smaller it kinda makes your boobs look bigger even if you feel they have gotten smaller.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭newbee22


    My boobs shrunk a tiny bit when I first started losing weight and now they won't get any smaller:o:oThey're still too big:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Honey-ec


    Well, boobs are mostly fat, after all.

    That's a common misconception. Boobs are about 80% glandular tissue and 20% fat.
    Taylor21 wrote: »
    Size 16 is fat? What? :eek: I genuinely call that curvy!

    Yes, it is. Sorry to be so blunt, but these discussions can often turn into a "we're all so afraid of offending someone" back-slapping session. A woman would need to be about 7 feet tall for a size 16 to equate to a healthy BMI.

    Now, people often bring up the whole "but BMI doesn't take muscle mass into account" thing. No, it doesn't, but for the average person (as in, a non-athlete), it's still a very accurate way of determining whether your height-to-weight ratio is healthy.

    And, if still in doubt, measure your waist. A measurement of more than 32 inches in women is officially classed as overweight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,114 ✭✭✭doctor evil


    Not forgetting that sizing in shops are messed up. I think going by the fit of a favourite pair of jeans is better than weighing scales as done properly a person should be gaining muscle through excerise and not just loosing weight by restricted eating.

    A persons build/frame counts as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭TheRealSquishy


    Honey-ec wrote: »



    Yes, it is. Sorry to be so blunt, but these discussions can often turn into a "we're all so afraid of offending someone" back-slapping session. A woman would need to be about 7 feet tall for a size 16 to equate to a healthy BMI.

    A lot of my friends are size 16 more or less and I just mean when everyone's fat no-one is (if that makes sense)


    I mean curvy as in it's not seen as being fat in society since we as a nation have become bigger in general. Like it's more normal to be a 16 than it was years ago so I wouldn't ever think of people that size as being overweight.


    And that's mostly our problem as well, we just accept that it's ok.


    I wouldn't have thought people who are size 16 would get made fun of anymore though that's what I meant.


    And believe me I'm no ar5e licker lol!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    I had not anticipated this being quite so long, so my apologies. Also, the following is just my opinion. :) Call it confessions of a slowly attempting to recover fattie. (Tongue firmly in cheek there!!)

    Right, in the interest of being frank (as if I'm every anything else! :P) I'm almost 6 foot tall. I'm currently a size 24 (though I have 2 pairs of smashing size 22 jeans that look amazing on me, in my own head at least, and I wore a size 20 shrug and dress at New Years. THAT was a feeling of achievement!). This time last year, I was a 28-30. I even have a dress or two that bear a size 32 tag. Yup, I ate all my emotions, was locked in a horrible spiral of eating my feelings, feeling bad about it, eating those feelings, and funnily enough most of my feelings tasted like chocolate or KFC. How lucky was I, right?? I'm sure other people's feelings taste like tofu, but not mine!

    It wasn't that I didn't "diet". I'm 26 now, and I "went on my first diet" at 6. 20 years. In any profession I'd be considered a pro at this stage!

    Last July, nearly to the day, I joined a gym. It was the most intimidating feeling at the time, but I had some money in my bank account, and the local gym advertised a special offer, giving 6 months membership for €199. I got measured and weighed, and was put on some of the machines.

    The weather might have been pretty poor last summer, but it was the sweatiest in living memory for me.

    I went to the gym 4 or 5 days a week, initially first thing in the morning - I got there as the doors opened at 6.30, and left in just enough time to shower and get to work on time. I absolutely LOVED it. I've never been sporty or particularly active, but I adore the gym. It's me against me, and I'm damned if I'm not going to win! Gone was the eating out of boredom, because I didn't have time to be bored. And what was the point in eating rubbish if I just had to spend an extra hour on the treadmill or step machine melting it back off?

    Don't get me wrong, I ate exactly what I wanted, and if I wanted chocolate, I had it. But rather than eating a bag of fun-size bars because I felt like a horrible excuse for a person, a total glutton and a waste of space, I'd have one bar, or a square of a bar, depending on what I wanted. I didn't change my diet that much - I love good food, which to my mind is fresh, tasty and well cooked. I started to actually drink water, and found that although I was running to and from the bathroom like a racehorse on roller skates, I actually enjoyed drinking it. I did cut out takeaways with the odd exception at the weekend, but during the week I had a breakfast (which at 6.15 is not easy to do!), lunch, dinner, and plenty of snacks. There is genuinely very little like a chunk of cold carrot to satisfy the craving for something crunchy! I took spirulina because I liked the taste (and it's conveniently good for iron!), and tried to have flaxseed or linseed every day.

    Then in late October / early November, things kind of fell apart a bit. My brother's friend died, and I lost interest in myself. Then the weather got really bad in December. I kept eating what I liked, within reason, probably erring more on the side of junk than before, but I stopped going to the gym completely.

    Then I change job, moved city, and mentally I did what I always used to do when I was stressed. I panicked. I ate circles around myself. In March, April or May, if you stood too close to me, you might have ended up with a bite mark. Or missing a chunk of flesh. I couldn't help falling back into the one thing that had been my routine, and fell is about the only way to describe it.

    I don't know what weight I am. I don't want to know. My clothes tell me whether or not I'm putting on weight. (I have recently. Still a size 24 though.) A scale is another thing for me to beat myself up with. Instead I'm trying encouragement. It's worked before!

    I joined the local gym recently. Work has been insane - I left at 8 tonight, for example. I've been to the gym 5 times in 3 months. That equates to approximately €30 a trip. This week was supposed to be the beginning of getting back into a routine of trying to get fit. But even though it looks as though the first evening I will actually step inside the doors of the gym will be Wednesday, as we have friends coming over for dinner tomorrow, I have mentally made a change. The presses are full of junk food. Someone else can eat it though, I don't care. We're having cake tomorrow for one of the girls birthdays in work. I won't abstain, but my slice will be smaller than it would have been a week ago. Because it's not about punishing yourself.

    We all have a diet - be it healthy, unhealthy, somewhere in the middle or totally extreme. Our diet is the fuel we put in our mouths to generate energy. Good, bad or indifferent, we all have a diet.

    The idea of "going on a diet" irks me. It's like going on a bus - I'm just going to catch the next diet that comes around and take a quick spin on it, until I can get off again. It sounds temporary. If you want to lose weight for good, I think you have to change your relationship with food. It has to be fun, a friend that you'd meet on a regular basis, but not someone you'd sleep with. It needs to be sustainable, taking in going out on the town with friends, having a nice meal, quick snacks, trips to the cinema etc. as well as the mundane, everyday food we eat.

    I hate Weight Watchers and their ilk, because the crap - and most of it is utter crap - that they sell as their own branded food is so utterly bad for you, filled with additives and chemicals. Their ProPoints system makes a nod towards acknowledging that low-fat is not the only element required for a reasonable diet, finally considering things like protein. It's entirely possible to eat a low-fat but high sugar diet and think you're doing great things. Doesn't mean it's healthy! And while I'm all for goals, the rubbish you see with a lot of people starving themselves all day on weigh-in day before heading to the chinese on the way home is rotten. You're fooling yourself, thinking you're doing it for your leader, not for you. (S)He won't judge you if you're down a few pounds, though you're about to faint over the scales, and then you can guiltlessly eat all the chicken balls and fried rice you like at home. :rolleyes:

    I'm no saint. I'm only going by my own experiences. I eat everything I want to eat. I haven't exercised in the best part of 9 months, if I'm honest about it. And yet I lost 3 dress sizes and kept it off, even with the emotional eating for the last four months. Yes, I'm disappointed in myself because I could be a comfortable size 20 (and less) at this stage. But it's a process. It's not always easy. There are times when the options available are going to be limited, and you'll have to try to make the best of it.

    Last summer, I liked myself more. I felt more active, more alive, I slept better and I was in a better mood. I felt more attractive and happier in myself. I want that me back, because she had a lot of patience, and I could do with that at the moment!

    I figure if I want other people to respect me, I should respect me. It's about fairness. I want to be fair to me. It's about taking time for yourself, even if it's only brain time, and being a bit selfish. I'd be lying if I didn't say at times I felt like I physically had to force myself out the door and into the gym - and I'm going to have to do that again now - but it was SO worth it.

    (Plus, though my back size reduced, my cup size stayed the same - I went from a 46GG to a 40GG. I guess these babies are here to stay for a little longer anyway! :))


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,401 ✭✭✭✭x Purple Pawprints x


    Blush_01, you're awesome.. Just really wanted to say that. Your post was inspiring. :)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Blush_01 wrote: »
    If you want to lose weight for good, I think you have to change your relationship with food. It has to be fun, a friend that you'd meet on a regular basis, but not someone you'd sleep with.
    Brilliant way of putting it B. :D

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭G86


    OP if you're smaller then your boobs are probably more in proportion now that they've got smaller too. My weight loss never affects my chest, which is annoying as hell because I'd LOVE your problem! Please don't let it deter you from the weight loss, you're doing really well and I bet you look great :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 replica


    The reality about weight loss pertains to the fact that you loose weight from all of your body. Some areas will be more affected than others. As a man I have struggled with weight issues most of my entire adult life. I look in the mirror and I feel terrible. It affects my self confidence, it angers me and yes it depresses me. But apart from my own struggle I have learned that any person who feels the need to mock me or pass comments on me it basically using me as a deflection because they have more serious self confidence issues that I have. It’s a lot easier to make fun of other people than accept how you feel about yourself. So to the contributors on these threads… to hell with hose that try and make you feel super conscious about how you look. Look good for you if that’s a size 30 or a size 8… if you accept yourself then well done you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Azureus


    I used to be a chubby 12-14. I tried to lose weight for years with no success (diet and exercise) but when I stopped trying the weight fell off and I was down to a 6. Everyone told me how unhealthy I looked, and looking at photos I did look gaunt so I got myself back up to an 8/10. My hips came back, but my boobs stayed small-after being used to d's I was down to b's. That sucks, but I feel healthier and better now that Ive toned legs and a flat tummy. Nothing padded bras wont fix! :D I now conciously eat heathily and exercise regularly and maintain a healthy weight-with treats obviously ;)

    I am suprised at the amount of women who justify being overweight by saying they are 'curvy'. I REALLY dont want to offend anybody here, but I have never seen someone who is an Irish size 16 who is not overweight. Unless they like really loose fit clothing. The measurements of an Irish 16 are in inches chest-waist-hip 40-33-42. That is overweight. That said, I have seen absolutely stunning size 14-16 girls and some people look better with a bit more weight on them, but the above measurements are unhealthy. Its not all about looks and I would never slag someone off about their weight, but if you are an unhealthy size (and I use size loosely, because we all know how much Irish shop sizes vary) then for health reasons and that alone you should do something about it.

    Also @Blush_01 the honesty in your post is fantastic, and really inspiring. Well done :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27 rider66


    Wow! Thank you! It means a lot to hear that put so well.

    As for the original question starting this thread- Be careful what you wish for. At one point I had a very hard time finding 34DDD bras. I lost over 80 lbs a few years ago, obviously not in a very healthy way since I'm back into a 22/24.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    Once again, just my opinion, so forgive me if anyone disagrees.

    At the end of the day, you have to respect yourself, and think you're worth the work to lose the weight. If you don't think enough of yourself you can fight and fight and you'll sabotage yourself at every chance you get. You'll be half way through eating the swiss roll because you're so upset before you even realise you've opened your mouth.

    Until you believe you're worth it, you'll never lose weight for good. And even if you believe it temporarily, you have to work at maintaining the belief that you're worth it, otherwise you'll just put it all back on. That's something I don't think anyone who hasn't struggled to lose weight will understand.

    It's theoretically easy to lose weight. It's theoretically easy to keep it off. But if it was actually easy to do, nobody would be overweight. It's not a lifestyle choice someone who is happy and satisfied chooses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭Storminateacup


    Since I was about 16 I've always had a thing about my body. To say I hated it, might be a little bit harsh, but I most definately didn't like it. I was a size 10 in 5th year - and felt like Roly Poly.

    I became obsessive, measuring everything out, diluting low-fat milk with water, only eating food of the same colour on a particular day. Sitting in school watching other girls eat boxes of wedges, big rolls and chips, would make me feel like I was actually going to vomit, so I stopped staying in at school during break times.

    Dealing with stressful situations, being upset, deaths ect, I could stop eating altogether. Spiarling on destructive behaviour made me lose all interest in food. Because there was so many "fun" alternatives.

    Dumped my serious boyfriend for someone who was only interested in getting high. He was fun, no doubt, but he was a train wreck, and it really didn't help matters. I remember one tuesday night I was at the gym after college and I collapsed. It still wasn't enough for me to cop on.

    People who I hadn't met in a while would tell me I've lost so much weight, or that i "looked well". It didn't make me feel better, it made me paranoid that people were scrutinising my weight, and made me more determined to get rid of the fat that I seen each time I looked in the mirror.

    I started dating another guy - who was more addicted to exercise than to illegal drugs. My diet slowly started to improve. He helped me realise that not all food was bad, and in order to work out good, you needed protien. With him, I really got into running.
    Instead of stopping eating/drinking or doing drugs, running was actually a lot better for stress relief.

    Becoming a mother was the only thing I wanted - really wanted - from life, but dealing with getting bigger, no matter how much I wanted it, was really tough. Now, in the aftermath, I'm trying to get back to just above my pre-pregnancy weight. Because, during the pregnancy, if it wasnt nailed down, I would be eating it. :D

    I have 12.5 lbs gone, and another 12.5 to go. I'm trying to be sensible about it. 2 portions of protien rich food, and a lot of vegetables and fruit. I've been running every day too - starting back about 10 days after I had my baby.

    I think its something I'll always worry about. I'll always need to weigh myself in the mornings and before I go to bed. I'll always need to write down everything I eat. But it will be okay. I have someone else to worry about now :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭ShizDink


    OP I'm surprised that you are trying to loose weight if you don't like the change. I'm the polar opposite to you. I recently gained weight and my boobs have gone up a whole cup size to B :o but you know what, I don't feel comfortable in myself. It took me my whole life to accept that I don't have boobs and thats my thing, I feel like its a huge part of who I am. So having boobs now (no matter how small they are) makes me feel slightly uncomfortable in myself. Is loosing the weight worth loosing something that you consider a good feature. Is loosing the weight going to help or hinder your confidence? Size 14 isn't fat. Is your BMI healthy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    Really? you're complaining I gained weight and lost a cup size

    Curse you hormones!

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    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭m'lady


    Blush..I just have to say your post really moved me, your honesty is amazing...and you make so much sense.

    I am currently trying to lose weight, I dont have a massive amount to lose, about 2 stone (have already lost 1 stone), but I am actually gonna print ur post out and put it on my fridge!

    Thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭newbee22


    Gonna jump on the bandwagon here and give my story:P I was what you would call a yoyo dieter! Was huge as a child, huge as a teenager then one day when I was 16 decided I wanted to lose weight, and I did lots of it! However I did it a really stupid way and once I started eating properly again, I put it all ( and some more!) back on! Every few years I've gone through the cycle again, lose a bit, put it back on, lose again...on it went!
    In September last year I moved away from home, was so upset I found comfort in food, bread, bread and more bread! Didn't help me that there was a death in the family very early on when I moved away, had to deal with that all by myself without my family and I really think that contributed to my weight gain!
    In January, I decided if I didn't lose the weight now for good, I never would. I was in the right frame of mind for losing weight and I think that is a key factor! So anyway on the 10th of January I joined Weight Watchers and I've never looked back! Yes, I did nearly die when I saw my weight on the screen and I think that has made me even more determined to keep it off! In the time since I've joined WW, I am 1/2lb short of losing 5 stone. I now know how to make better food choices, simple things. Don't eat any of the WW food, except for the yogurts, the rest of the stuff tastes like cardboard! For me, knowing that I have to get up on the scales everyweek makes me focused and determined to do well! I feel great since I've lost it, I know I have a bit more to go, but at least I have some of my confidence back!
    Sorry for the long post!!:o:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Ok girls, I'm the mythical size 8-10 with 32dd boobs. Yep, it does happen.
    But tbh I'd rather be a tasteful B cup. I long to wear a strappy vest with a minimal bra or even no bra.
    Cloths don't hang well. There are so many cloths that I just can't wear. My almost flat sister can wear deep cut dresses that would look really slutty on me. I'm now 36 and things are getting droppy.

    Regarding weight loss, forget diets and learn to LOVE food. I'm serious. Staying slim is actually about loving food, and by that I mean loving GREAT food, prepared with care. I realise I'm lucky naturally, but I see lots of old school friends who are/were naturally slim as well but didn't develop a genuine love of food. I've had fat moments along the way but if you take the time to cook with good ingredients you get meals that satisfy and develop a genuine healthy relationship with food. I had an anorexic stage as a teenager but learning to cook was my way out of it and spending hours on a great meal was my therapy. I cook with lots of butter and oil. Back when I was struggling with diets I just ate junk cause food was like an abusive fetish.

    Also exercise is really great, it releases pleasure hormones. Yoga works for me and I've made it part of my life. It literally makes me happy.

    The media/society has it all wrong with all this diet crap. If you learn to appreciate great food and appreciate your body, staying slim and fit is easy. It's so far from denial; it's about genuine appreciation, being in the moment - love that slice of cheese (enough to not need twenty of them) and love your walk to work. It really is that simple.
    Can't firm up the boobs though! Maybe I should try push ups?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭purity


    Taylor21 wrote: »
    Ok so I started weightwatchers 2 months ago and I'm nearly a stone down. I love my new almost flat-ish :P tummy but my boobs have become waaay smaller too.

    I really love my boobs and I'm genuinely upset that they're disappearing. I've always had big boobs and I feel like smaller boobs just aren't me.

    So do I keep losing the weight and enjoy my new tummy which I've always dreamt of or put a bit back on and keep the boobs I love so much? Advice would be appreciated ladies, what would you do?:confused:

    When I lost all my weight I lost it everywhere and believe me I was so happy with my figure my cup size was the last thing on my mind. People admired me for losing my weight and no one ever commented on my boobs size declining as if they would lol. So I would say continue with the weight loss and forget about the cup size. Unfortunately though I have put on the weight since and the cup size is up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 curlywurly26


    OH, I've been there! I used to be a size 14 and 34E and I loved them...but I was unhappy with my body. After leaving uni, I went down to a size 10, and even though I miss my boobs (I'm now a B-C cup!) I know they wouldn't look right on my body! I'd love to be a D I think but I'm much healthier at the weight I am now so I'm happy to live with it.

    If I refer to my friends about the time I was fat, they all go "but you were never fat!" but the problem is, I was an unhealthy size for my age and height. I think the term 'fat' can be subjective, but the fact is if your weight is unhealthy, it doesn't matter what size everyone else is, you're unhealthy. If it's not unhealthy and it's purely asthetic, then it's completely your choice which one to choose - only some people are lucky enough to have the stomach AND boobs they want!

    I've never liked WW or any of those things - as someone said before, it's a lifestyle choice to be healthy. I use a food diary (www.nutracheck.co.uk - there's a 5 day free trial and then it's like £5 a month if you like it) which lets you know exactly what you're eating and you can decide whether you want to lose weight, how much you want to lose per week and it'll do the calculations for you and recommend calorie intake if you want to stick to it. There's also a forum with people so you have your own support group too - there's plenty of these on the internet so look around!

    P.s I have to say this as it really annoys me - there are LOADS of tasty healthy foods out there! Anyone who says they are tasteless and boring are obviously doing something wrong! I eat healthy curries, pasta dishes, stir frys, meat and potatoes, sandwiches, etc and then at the weekend treat myself to pizza or a take away! It's not all rabbit food! :p


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