What are the gardai up to lately ?

polod

ive just been stopped twice in the last to 2 days........i live in a fairly rural area in the mid-lands ........i was hardly stopped twice in the last 2 years ...the cops asked me my name and they wrote it down along with my address and the time i was stopped at .......the first guard asked me was i working .......whats it to him really ? was he just being nosey ? first time ive ever coming across any thing like this and i find it very annoying what are they up to at all ?

_Kaiser_

Was it a checkpoint or were you pulled in?

Did you not ask them what it was about?

snubbleste

Did you not ask the garda who stopped you?

aristotle25

Could be to do with preventing burgalries etc in the area.

TestTransmission

Sounds a bit like this

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2056167545

polod

yeah they were both at check points .....emm i was kind of afraid to ask the guard....i dont really ever want to have any thing to do with them ......they never even aksed for my lience or checked for tax or that

Im Only 71Kg

stopped 4 times in 3 days in tallaght/saggart area..once by armed garda in plain clothes..

cml387

Isn't it funny how we are always asking for more Garda enforcement of traffic laws,until they stop me. How dare they?

aristotle25

cml387 wrote: »

Isn't it funny how we are always asking for more Garda enforcement of traffic laws,until they stop me. How dare they?

Fully agree.

Anan1

As unanswerable questions from strangers go, 'Why did Gardaí stop me twice in the midlands?' is right up there with the best of them.

polod

cml387 wrote: »

Isn't it funny how we are always asking for more Garda enforcement of traffic laws,until they stop me. How dare they?

fair enough i keep my always up to date with tax ..good tyres etc so i have no fear of being stopped ....i just dont like guards being nosey.....does any one find them ignoriant ? some are worse than others i find

coylemj

polod wrote: »

fair enough i keep my always up to date with tax ..good tyres etc so i have no fear of being stopped ....i just dont like guards being nosey.....does any one find them ignoriant ? some are worse than others i find

So predictable how quickly these threads descend into Garda-bashing.

Yes OP, some Gardai are so ignorant they can't even spell the word!

dell1211

Anan1 wrote: »

As unanswerable questions from strangers go, 'Why did Gardaí stop me twice in the midlands?' is right up there with the best of them.

Not really, im sure that there are plenty of people on here from the midlands who may know

polod

coylemj wrote: »

So predictable how quickly these threads descend into Garda-bashing.

Yes OP, some Gardai are so ignorant they can't even spell the word!

typo

Anan1

dell1211 wrote: »

Not really, im sure that there are plenty of people on here from the midlands who may know

The only people who know why the OP was stopped and asked those questions are the Gardaí in question. The OP should have asked them at the time, but didn't. If they want to find out now, they should contact the local station. Or they could just make the obvious assumption that something happened in the area and the Gardaí are keeping an eye out. WRT the 'are you working' question, it's much like when they ask where you live - they're just trying to build a picture of who you are from your reactions. Were they rude in their manner?

PaulKK

Always funny when people get all offended when a Gard asks some details.

So what if he asks if you are working or not!?

I remember another thread on here before where someone was outraged because a Gard asked where he was going and where he had come from at a checkpoint.

Some people need a reality check.

-Chris-

polod wrote: »

the first guard asked me was i working .......whats it to him really ? was he just being nosey ?

He doesn't care if you're working or not, he's asking a question that the average person would find it easy to answer so that he can check your reaction/attitude. If you start to sweat bullets and keep glancing nervously towards the glovebox, tell him to mind his own business or tell him "you'll never take me alive, copper" he'll know that it needs further investigation.

johnos1984

"What seems to be the officer problem?"

http://www.vix.dk/v/484

Mc Love

Their job??

Blazer

TestTransmission wrote: »

Sounds a bit like this

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2056167545

damn you :mad: I just replied to that thread and never noticed it's been dead for the last 3 months

Vicxas

I got stopped yesterday by the gardai, massive checkpoint but it looks like they were only stopping commercials... i obviously wasnt the droid they were looking for.

spiggotpaddy

i think i can shed some light on this midland mystery case caper.
there was a report bulletin on midland radio.

there's a large consignment of extra jammy doughnuts missing

and fair play to the guards, they're busting their guts on this one.

nutts_77

A garda can ask any question, of any person, at any time. Your answer or lack thereof often gives more information than you intend. Am sure the garda was delighted to hear about your career...

Anan1

spiggotpaddy wrote: »

i think i can shed some light on this midland mystery case caper.
there was a report bulletin on midland radio.

there's a large consignment of extra jammy doughnuts missing

and fair play to the guards, they're busting their guts on this one.

Guess who's been watching too much American TV...

cml387

Here's an educational video that may be of some help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

Stheno

dell1211 wrote: »

Not really, im sure that there are plenty of people on here from the midlands who may know

From living there, if it's anywhere around Portlaoise, there is a fairly high ratio of gardai there for the population due to the prison, and they do tend to do a lot of checkpoints.

I lived there for 9.5 years and would hit a checkpoint maybe once or twice a month. They'd have checkpoints for regular traffic stops, and the odd checkpoint with armed gardai

Now I live in Swords, and maybe hit one every five or six?

That's just my experience though

Bob Cratchet

polod wrote: »

...the cops asked me my name and they wrote it down along with my address and the time i was stopped at .......the first guard asked me was i working .......whats it to him really ? was he just being nosey ? first time ive ever coming across any thing like this and i find it very annoying what are they up to at all ?

What have you to hide ?

Vicxas

Bob Cratchet wrote: »

What have you to hide ?

Drugs maybe

Buffman

The OP should have a look at last Sundays Traffic Blues for his answer. In the first bit there was a checkpoint for tax and insurance and they ended up arresting a few guys who had warrants. Also, if anybody wants to see how the ANPR works this is worth a watch.

http://www.rte.ie/player/#!v=1103243 (available until 27/07/11)

Boskowski

cml387 wrote: »

Isn't it funny how we are always asking for more Garda enforcement of traffic laws,until they stop me. How dare they?

What's 'are you working' got. to do with enforcing traffic laws?

Anan1

Boskowski wrote: »

What's 'are you working' got. to do with enforcing traffic laws?

That's already been explained twice, by two different posters. Reread posts 15 and 17.

Boskowski

Anan1 wrote: »

That's already been explained twice, by two different posters. Reread posts 15 and 17.

I think the word we're looking at is 'traffic'.

Anan1

Boskowski wrote: »

I think the word we're looking at is 'traffic'.

Sorry!:)

YouTookMyName

Bob Cratchet wrote: »

What have you to hide ?

Extra Jammy Donuts?

CharlieCroker

The guard doesn't give 2 ****es what you actually do for a living, he asked you to engage you in conversation of some sort, to see what your speech was like, to gauge whether you may be intoxicated, to try and smell alcohol or cannabis from the car, to see if you were overtly nervous or what your demeanour was like.

You could have said you were an astronaut for all he would have cared.

marley123

Unmarked Garda cars pulling random cars in couple of hundred metres into M11 from Bray this evening ....

johnos1984

marley123 wrote: »

Unmarked Garda cars pulling random cars in couple of hundred metres into M11 from Bray this evening ....

Just driven it and none there now

IRISH VEGAS

why are posts been deleted??

-Chris-

IRISH VEGAS wrote: »

why are posts been deleted??

Your video was about American law, and had no Motors related content that I saw, so I deleted it for being off-topic.

dev100

CharlieCroker wrote: »

The guard doesn't give 2 ****es what you actually do for a living, he asked you to engage you in conversation of some sort, to see what your speech was like, to gauge whether you may be intoxicated, to try and smell alcohol or cannabis from the car, to see if you were overtly nervous or what your demeanour was like.

You could have said you were an astronaut for all he would have cared.

Copper doesnt need a reason to engage you conversation if its a drink driving checkpoint he can just politely tell you blow into the device

BanzaiBk

Passed through 3 checkpoints in Cork south harbour area this week, only stopped once though after exiting the tunnel on Dunkettle side heading towards Tivoli. What an insane place for a checkpoint, no more than 10 yards from the roundabout.

-Chris-

dev100 wrote: »

Copper doesnt need a reason to engage you conversation if its a drink driving checkpoint he can just politely tell you blow into the device

True (and I'm sure CharlieCroker is aware of this too), but the Garda is probably professional enough to know that insisting you to blow into the device with no preamble will probably get your hackles up and perpetuate the image of Gardai being ignorant.
Just because he can, doesn't mean he should.


Edit: Oops, corrected by the Man

CharlieCroker

Nope!!! Outside a MAT checkpoint, in order to breath test someone under S.12, RTA, a garda needs to
A- believe the driver has committed an offence under the RTA
B- the driver has been drinking (hence the conversation)
C- the driver has been involved in a collision

A guard can't just randomly breathilize someone for no reason.

-Chris-

CharlieCroker wrote: »

A guard can't just randomly breathilize someone for no reason.

I'm surprised at that, but I guess the point of the conversation is to give you reason to suspect.

On the other hand, is the refusal to engage in conversation also a reason to suspect?

IRISH VEGAS

-Chris- wrote: »

Your video was about American law, and had no Motors related content that I saw, so I deleted it for being off-topic.

i did not make a video post as you say, i said garda are Profiling i guess i cant say this??

Our man in Havana

Nope. It just means it makes an opinion being formed more difficult.

A person is quite entitled not to engage in conversation beyond what is required by statute.

Bob Cratchet

Was it an Audi or Honda you were driving ?

Cops don't like skanger mobiles.

-Chris-

IRISH VEGAS wrote: »

i did noy make a video post as you say, i said garda are Profiling i guess i cant say this??

Oh sorry, you mean the rant of POLICE STATE with the allegation that the conversations Gardai are having are in order to build a dossier of citizens? I'm not sure how that's Motors related either.

Every time we have a Garda-related thread it ends up bring up various elements of Garda-bashing or possibly some form of conspiracy theory. Unfortunately unless it's Motors related then it's off-topic.

If you have any further queries about my moderation, please take it to PM rather than dragging this thread off-topic.

CharlieCroker

-Chris- wrote: »

I'm surprised at that, but I guess the point of the conversation is to give you reason to suspect.

On the other hand, is the refusal to engage in conversation also a reason to suspect?

As mention by ourmaninhavana, a person doesn't have to converse with a garda beyond what's required by law but this is naturally gonna heighten the guard's suspicions.

dev100

CharlieCroker wrote: »

Nope!!! Outside a MAT checkpoint, in order to breath test someone under S.12, RTA, a garda needs to
A- believe the driver has committed an offence under the RTA
B- the driver has been drinking (hence the conversation)
C- the driver has been involved in a collision

A guard can't just randomly breathilize someone for no reason.

I wont split hairs over it but i thought in the old days they had to have form suspicion that you were driving under the influence etc ie driving eradically etc. I thought they changed the laws on this a year or two ago maybe im wrong. Ive been in cars where the drivers have been breathalised and al the guard done was politely asked the driver for his name and informed him under sect something something he wanted to do a breathiliser test. Think he used the term random breath test... There was no conversation between the guard and driver at all.

B- the driver has been drinking (hence the conversation)
If by your statement does the guard not have to inform the driver he has formed the suspicion that the person is driving under the influence ?

As I said I could be completely wrong... But Im sure guards use common sense in real life. Hmmmm although I did spend almost 20min at a checkpoint one night arguing with a guard telling me I had spent the whole night in the pub drinking which wasnt the case anyway another story

polod

Bob Cratchet wrote: »

Was it an Audi or Honda you were driving ?

Cops don't like skanger mobiles.

yeah a was driving a 07 audi a4 and im in my mid twentys ...maybe that why he asked was i working i am a farmer BTY