Next Chief Justice?

NavyandBlue

Murray CJ's time is up this month. So who is going to be?

I have heard that Labour are pushing strongly for Denham. I would have thought Hardiman is surely in the mix as well.

Cathal O

I would agree, however i think it is time for the first woman chief justice in the state

coylemj

NavyandBlue wrote: »

Murray CJ's time is up this month. So who is going to be?

I have heard that Labour are pushing strongly for Denham. I would have thought Hardiman is surely in the mix as well.

Hardiman was a PD head, big mate of Mary Harney, no friends in the current administration plus his appointment was a blatant party political stroke in that he was dropped straight into the Supreme Court without serving time in the High Court beforehand so he has no claim on the job of CJ and is unlikely to get it.

coylemj

Cathal O wrote: »

I would agree, however i think it is time for the first woman chief justice in the state

So Denham should get the job for no other reason than that she is not a man?

NavyandBlue

coylemj wrote: »

Hardiman was a PD head, big mate of Mary Harney, no friends in the current administration plus his appointment was a blatant party political stroke in that he was dropped straight into the Supreme Court without serving time in the High Court beforehand so he has no claim on the job of CJ and is unlikely to get it.

While I agree with the fact that he only got it because he was a PD crony, just because he didn't serve in the High Court doesn't mean he has no claim to the role of CJ.

Murray CJ never worked on the High Court. I think he was Ireland's representative on the ECtHR or ECJ.

Cathal O

coylemj wrote: »

So Denham should get the job for no other reason than that she is not a man?

Not 100% on that, however it would show a progressionist society and also i believe that she would be the best person for the job.

I agree with a lot of her judgements?

coylemj

Cathal O wrote: »

I would agree, however i think it is time for the first woman chief justice in the state

coylemj wrote: »

So Denham should get the job for no other reason than that she is not a man?

Cathal O wrote: »

Not 100% on that, however it would show a progressionist society and also i believe that she would be the best person for the job.

I agree with a lot of her judgements?

Sorry, it's too late for the 'best person for the job' stuff, you kicked off with a sexist statement which basically said that the next CJ should be a woman just because it's 'time' which presumably means that the Govt. should disregard the relative qualities of any candidates who are not women.

Cathal O

coylemj wrote: »

Sorry, it's too late for the 'best person for the job' stuff, you kicked off with a sexist statement which basically said that the next CJ should be a woman just because it's 'time' which presumably means that the Govt. should disregard the relative qualities of any candidates who are not women.

Oh im sorry its it too late? haha thats hilarious, i didnt know there was a time limit for statements haha.
I guess this means im not hired

Rocket_Man

NavyandBlue wrote: »

Murray CJ's time is up this month. So who is going to be?

I have heard that Labour are pushing strongly for Denham. I would have thought Hardiman is surely in the mix as well.

Denham would be a good choice but as Lab got the Attorney General I imagine the Chief Justice job will be FG's.

Hardiman, as a former PD, has no chance.

Cathal O

Cathal O wrote: »

however it would show a progressionist society

Bad reason to appoint a CJ.

Cathal O wrote: »

and also i believe that she would be the best person for the job.

Good reason to appoint a CJ.

Cathal O wrote: »

I agree with a lot of her judgements?

Mediocre reason to appoint a CJ.

Feels like a Goldilocks approach to judicial appointments so far.


Any talk of "it's time for a woman" is just so stupid it's unreal. Appoint the best person and it will be a woman when a woman is the best person. Then it will be "time".

jacko1

Fennelly is the obvious choice - been there a long time - very clever - and universally admired and respected by colleagues and practitioners

If you are looking outside the Supreme Court then frank Clarke is the obvious candidate

coylemj

Cathal O wrote: »

Oh im sorry its it too late? haha thats hilarious, i didnt know there was a time limit for statements haha.
I guess this means im not hired

bath handle

jacko1 wrote: »

Fennelly is the obvious choice - been there a long time - very clever - and universally admired and respected by colleagues and practitioners

Fennelly is almost at retirement age. Hardiman is seen as somewhat anarchic. No government wants a loose cannon as CJ.

HellFireClub

bath handle wrote: »

Fennelly is almost at retirement age. Hardiman is seen as somewhat anarchic. No government wants a loose cannon as CJ.

Isn't it the place of the Supreme Court to set precedents as well as follow them?!?

bath handle

HellFireClub wrote: »

bath handle wrote: »

Fennelly is almost at retirement age. Hardiman is seen as somewhat anarchic. No government wants a loose cannon as CJ.

Isn't it the place of the Supreme Court to set precedents as well as follow them?!?

Who said it wasn't?

impr0v

Kelly J as an outside bet. numerous reasons why he wouldn't be considered, but still...

234

impr0v wrote: »

Kelly J as an outside bet. numerous reasons why he wouldn't be considered, but still...

Snowball's chance in hell. It would make for a few interesting years though.

Reloc8

jacko1 wrote: »

Fennelly is the obvious choice - been there a long time - very clever - and universally admired and respected by colleagues and practitioners

...brilliant...

UrbanFox

jacko1 wrote: »

If you are looking outside the Supreme Court then frank Clarke is the obvious candidate

Why ?

Good judge alright but why do you see him as an axiomatic choice ?

UrbanFox

Don't forget Kearns P.

I suspect that Fennelly J might well be the best bet. As far as age goes I don't see that as a bar especially if it would suit to have a change of CJ within a short period of time.

I would be perfectly happy to see Denham J get the position on the basis of her considerable ability as distinct from her gender.

coylemj

Mary Wilson (Drivetime RTE Radio1) has just reported that the Govt is to nominate Susan Denhem as next CJ.

Hippo

Deserved, she's been an excellent SC judge

coylemj

I see that current CJ Murray will remain as an ordinary justice of the SC, has this happened before?