Fined £500k for not flying EU flag: Brussels penalises UK museums, firms and councils

Run_to_da_hills

Brussels has imposed financial penalties of almost £500,000 on councils, museums, universities, travel firms and business groups. They claim that businesses and councils were given EU grants which stipulated that they must wave the flag or display the logos.

I am sure the same applies in Ireland but over here the majority seem more proud to wave or display this thing rather than our own tricolour so I couldn't see it being a problem here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011618/Brussels-penalises-UK-museums-firms-councils-500k-flying-EU-flag.html

Nodin

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Brussels has imposed financial penalties of almost £500,000 on councils, museums, universities, travel firms and business groups. They claim that businesses and councils were given EU grants which stipulated that they must wave the flag or display the logos.

I am sure the same applies in Ireland but over here the majority seem more proud to wave or display this thing rather than our own tricolour so I couldn't see it being a problem here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011618/Brussels-penalises-UK-museums-firms-councils-500k-flying-EU-flag.html

It's not a "claim". Part of the agreement is that you acknowledge the funding by displaying a symbol. I'm failing to see the problem with the EU wanting that adhered to. This is the usual **** from the Daily Fail.

Uriel.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Brussels has imposed financial penalties of almost £500,000 on councils, museums, universities, travel firms and business groups. They claim that businesses and councils were given EU grants which stipulated that they must wave the flag or display the logos.

I am sure the same applies in Ireland but over here the majority seem more proud to wave or display this thing rather than our own tricolour so I couldn't see it being a problem here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011618/Brussels-penalises-UK-museums-firms-councils-500k-flying-EU-flag.html

If it's a condition of the contract for te grant(s) I see no problem with this. It might seem trivial/harsh to most but the "offenders" need to take responsibility for failure to comply with any conditions. It's a matter of principal.

I'd liken it to a commercial company paying for sponsorship of a soccer jersey and the team "forgetting" to add the sponsor name/logo.

I hope the Irish state, agencies and NGOs conform to Any such conditions,

Frank Black

Having worked on some of the roads projects in Ireland over the last few years, there's an obligation that any of the information boards on the new road indicate that the project has been part-funded by the EU.
It's normal practice - don't know why the Mail are trying to make a big deal out of it.

Actually, I do.

the groutch

does that mean the tricolour will be replaced by the EU flag outside Dail Eireann?

mathie

Back off Brussels!

mathie

mathie wrote: »

Back off Brussels!

Do you write for the Daily Hatred then?

And are you British?

mathie

Deleted User wrote: »

Do you write for the Daily Hatred then?

And are you British?

Chill out it was a reference to The Pub Landlord.

Android 666

Considering the fact that tit Clarkson made a programme giving out about all the money Britain gave to the EU and showed him trying to get into various institutions and museums for free on the continent because he claimed the British taxpayer had paid for them, I think it is probably particularly relevant in Britain to show how much money the EU put back into those countries in the form of grants.

Fratton Fred

Android 666 wrote: »

Clarkson made a programme giving out about all the money Britain gave to the EU and showed him trying to get into various institutions and museums for free on the continent because he claimed the British taxpayer had paid for them.

Brilliant. Clarkson is a ****ing legend.

Android 666

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Brilliant. Clarkson is a ****ing legend.

He's a tool of immense proportions…

http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2008/jan/07/personalfinancenews.scamsandfraud

Fratton Fred

Android 666 wrote: »

He has a tool of immense proportions…

I don't doubt that at all.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Brilliant. Clarkson is a ****ing legend.

Clarkson is Britain's answer to George W Bush.

mathie

mathie wrote: »

Chill out it was a reference to The Pub Landlord.

Ohhh not a problem, not a problem, I just noticed the name mathie, cos it's a fine name, a fine British name, long as you pronounce it "maffy". None of yer forrin Dagoe "thuh" sounds, "ffffff". Maffs is a fine British tradition, remember Newton.......*starts into skit*

Fratton Fred

Deleted User wrote: »

Ohhh not a problem, not a problem, I just noticed the name mathie, cos it's a fine name, a fine British name, long as you pronounce it "maffy". None of yer forrin Dagoe "thuh" sounds, "ffffff". Maffs is a fine British tradition, remember Newton.......*starts into skit*

Maffy is Mattie's London cousin.

Red Alert

The problem with the roadsigns and such, is that they seem to be left up permanently. At some stage, it's time to stop shoving the EU in our face as we drive along.

Android 666

Red Alert wrote: »

The problem with the roadsigns and such, is that they seem to be left up permanently. At some stage, it's time to stop shoving the EU in our face as we drive along.

Why would it bother you? Would you not agree we have a vastly improved road network from the one we had 15-20 years ago, due in part to EU Structural Funds?

sensibleken

I wonder if people even manage to read the articles in the Daily bile before getting needlessly offended.

mathie

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Maffy is Mattie's London cousin.

And Mafafafi is his fat sister.

Frank Black

Red Alert wrote: »

The problem with the roadsigns and such, is that they seem to be left up permanently. At some stage, it's time to stop shoving the EU in our face as we drive along.

I wouldn't have siad the signs were intrusive to the degree that you feel they're being 'shoved in your face'.

I believe there'a contractual obligation that the information boards are maintained by the contractor for a certain period of time (possibly 3 years).

Fratton Fred

sensibleken wrote: »

I wonder if people even manage to read the articles in the Daily bile before getting needlessly offended.

No need. Every single article ends up on AH anyway.

£6Billion net contribution to the eu at a time when the UK is cutting back on essential services. And people wonder why the UK has a lot of euro sceptics.

Android 666

Fratton Fred wrote: »

£6Billion net contribution to the eu at a time when the UK is cutting back on essential services. And people wonder why the UK has a lot of euro sceptics.

And because British institutions and museums are not highlighting the fact that they are getting EU funds in accordance with the terms and conditions of the funding the public have no idea that a lot of money is being directed back into the country.

Fratton Fred

Android 666 wrote: »

And because British institutions and museums are not highlighting the fact that they are getting EU funds in accordance with the terms and conditions of the funding the public have no idea that a lot of money is being directed back into the country.

That was £6billion net contribution, not gross.

Pffft, all this EU guff, I can't stand it, being talked at by Paris, and Berlin, and Brussels, and Rome.

I mean, what have the Romans ever done for us?

Android 666

Fratton Fred wrote: »

That was £6billion net contribution, not gross.

Shock horror! Mein Gott! That's outrageous! I think Britain should leave the EU and pay the same kind of vast sums of money Norway do to maintain trade links with the EU, have to maintain European standards and meet EU legislation to trade with EU members and have absolutely no say in the creation of legislation for the EU. That'll show them!

Run_to_da_hills

the groutch wrote: »

does that mean the tricolour will be replaced by the EU flag outside Dail Eireann?

No but we may possibly see the EU flag incorporating a member state logo in the centre of it replacing national flags. It has already started on the coins so it wouldn't surprise me.

With regards to the question of logos being displayed over the construction of new motorways, its just history repeating itself.

Android 666

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

No but we may possibly see the EU flag incorporating the member a member state logo in the centre of it replacing national flags. It has already started on the coins so it wouldn't surprise me.

I think you might have missed the joke in that. He was referring to the EU Bailout.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

With regards to the question of logos being displayed over the construction of new motorways, its just history repeating itself.

I want to call Godwin's Law on it but I think the comparison is so stupid I couldn't be bothered…

mike65

LOL wind your neck back in Run! p.ie must be missing you if you are over here

Dyr

the groutch wrote: »

does that mean the tricolour will be replaced by the EU flag outside Dail Eireann?

You'd see as many euroreich flags as tricolours in dublin, except maybe in Carrolls :pac:

softly softly catchee monkey

Fratton Fred

Android 666 wrote: »

Shock horror! Mein Gott! That's outrageous! I think Britain should leave the EU and pay the same kind of vast sums of money Norway do to maintain trade links with the EU, have to maintain European standards and meet EU legislation to trade with EU members and have absolutely no say in the creation of legislation for the EU. That'll show them!

Maybe they should. I wonder how Ireland will cope having to implement import and export tariffs with its single largest trade partner. Or how BMW and Mercedes will cope having import duty slapped on their third largest market.

Android 666

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Maybe they should. I wonder how Ireland will cope having to implement import and export tariffs with its single largest trade partner. Or how BMW and Mercedes will cope having import duty slapped on their third largest market.

Or how would the UK cope with with having to implement tariffs on 57% of it's exports and 55% of its imports? (2008 figures). Considering it exported £14.4 billion in March 2011 alone, it would be sure to cost them more than €6 billion a year, not forgetting the loss of trade that would most likely occur due to the increase in prices caused by the addition of any tariffs.

prinz

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Clarkson is Britain's answer to George W Bush.

Except George W Bush has a lot more personality, wit, and a passable sense of humour.

Fratton Fred

Android 666 wrote: »

Or how would the UK cope with with having to implement tariffs on 57% of it's exports and 55% of its imports? (2008 figures). Considering it exported £14.4 billion in March 2011 alone, it would be sure to cost them more than €6 billion a year, not forgetting the loss of trade that would most likely occur due to the increase in prices caused by the addition of any tariffs.

Who knows.

One things for sure though, there would be more than a few peripheral countries in the EU that would get a nasty wake up call.

Pace2008

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Who knows.

One things for sure though, there would be more than a few peripheral countries in the EU that would get a nasty wake up call.

Do you actually think the British government would risk jeopardising their economy just to spite their ungrateful EU neighbours? What is this, 3rd class?

Fratton Fred

Pace2008 wrote: »

Do you actually think the British government would risk jeopardising their economy just to spite their ungrateful EU neighbours? What is this, 3rd class?

No I don't, I can't see the UK pulling out of the eu(and nor in my opinion should they). It is easy to see why a lot of people in the UK are sceptical though.

Biggins

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Brussels has imposed financial penalties of almost £500,000 on councils, museums, universities, travel firms and business groups. They claim that businesses and councils were given EU grants which stipulated that they must wave the flag or display the logos.

I am sure the same applies in Ireland but over here the majority seem more proud to wave or display this thing rather than our own tricolour so I couldn't see it being a problem here.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011618/Brussels-penalises-UK-museums-firms-councils-500k-flying-EU-flag.html

This is type of standard practise.

We do it here.
If you get business loans, grants, etc from certain government bodies, you have to at appropriate times of advertising and use of office materials, include in small print that your efforts are jointly being supported by certain related bodies.

Its standard practise, end of story. Storm over nothing.
If one takes the money, one must read ALL the conditions that comes with it and agree to abide before signature on the dotted line.

Run_to_da_hills

Going by the best / worst rated comments at the bottom of that article it shows that the majority don't like the EU.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011618/Brussels-penalises-UK-museums-firms-councils-500k-flying-EU-flag.html

RichieC

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Going by the best / worst rated comments at the bottom of that article it shows that the majority don't like the EU.

The Majority don't like the truth, more like.

Nodin

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Going by the best / worst rated comments at the bottom of that article it shows that the majority don't like the EU.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011618/Brussels-penalises-UK-museums-firms-councils-500k-flying-EU-flag.html

A majority of DAILY MAIL READERS COMMENTING DON'T LIKE THE EU!!!?????????!!!!????????!!!??????????!!!!?????????!!!?????????!!!!!!

Why the fuck is this not headline news ?

prinz

Nodin wrote: »

Why the fuck is this not headline news ?

It got knocked off top spot by EUROCRATS BAN CURVED BANANAS..

The_Hitman

#GodHatesFlags

Stinicker

I think Clarkson should interview GWB on Top Gear that would be the greatest episode ever, with two of the most right on people on Earth. Dubya could race a hummer around hammerhead!

Green Back

Biggins wrote: »

This is type of standard practise.

We do it here.
If you get business loans, grants, etc from certain government bodies, you have to at appropriate times of advertising and use of office materials, include in small print that your efforts are jointly being supported by certain related bodies.

Its standard practise, end of story. Storm over nothing.
If one takes the money, one must read ALL the conditions that comes with it and agree to abide before signature on the dotted line.

Would you be happy for the ROI soccer team's Jersey to carry the EU flag?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/8623800/England-football-team-could-be-forced-to-wear-EU-flag.html

LondonIrish90

Android 666 wrote: »

Shock horror! Mein Gott! That's outrageous! I think Britain should leave the EU and pay the same kind of vast sums of money Norway do to maintain trade links with the EU, have to maintain European standards and meet EU legislation to trade with EU members and have absolutely no say in the creation of legislation for the EU. That'll show them!

What is your problem with people unhappy with the way their affairs are being meddled with by foreign powers?

As an Irish person in current economic times I'm sure you are well aware of how upsetting it can be for people who feel their sovereignty is at threat.

I'm from England, I'm a Eurosceptic, and I have no problems saying that. I have reasons for holding this viewpoint which are backed up with statistics (such as the one Fred posted) you seem to think it is acceptable to deride people simply because they want to keep Britain run by the British, and I assume those who fear for Ireland's sovereignty.

For what it's worth, I feel English, not European. I'd never describe myself as European, I don't feel any connection to the obtuse French and Germans who block the streets of London. I freely accept there are those who welcome the EU's growing political dominance in Europe. We aren't drones, we all have different ideals and aspirations for ourselves, our towns, and our countries.

LondonIrish90

Nodin wrote: »

A majority of DAILY MAIL READERS COMMENTING DON'T LIKE THE EU!!!?????????!!!!????????!!!??????????!!!!?????????!!!?????????!!!!!!

Why the fuck is this not headline news ?

As much as you would like to think it, you are no better (or worse) than the average person who has right wing, conservative views.


Good on the Daily Mail for highlighting this.

orourkeda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

Capt'n Midnight

Nodin wrote: »

A majority of DAILY MAIL READERS[/SIZE] COMMENTING DON'T LIKE THE EU!!!?????????!!!!????????!!!??????????!!!!?????????!!!?????????!!!!!!

Why the f*ck is this not headline news ?

"How can one not be fond of something that the Daily Mail despises?"
Stephen Fry