The Value Of Holy Mass

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The Miraculous Value of the Holy Mass

“My son, if men only knew the value of the Holy Mass, they would be forever on their knees listening to it” (Padre Pio to Vittorio Chimetto)

“The Holy Mass is the renewal of the sacrifice of the Cross”. It is the sacrifice that detains Divine justice, that rules the entire Church, that saves the world.
In the hour of death, the Masses that you have devoutly attended will be your greatest consolation.
In each Mass the temporal suffering due to your sins is diminished in accordance with the degree of commitment you bring to it.
In each Mass, Jesus forgives you the venial sins you have not confessed but have repented.
In each Mass, Satan’s dominion over you is reduced.
One Mass heard by you in your life does more good than many that may be heard for you after your death.
In each Mass, you are given protection against dangers and misfortunes that would otherwise have befallen you.
With each Mass your time in Purgatory is reduced.
The Holy Sacrifice is the most effective of prayers, over and above all other prayers, good works and penance; by its own virtue it immediately and infallibly produces effect in favour of souls.
Each Mass procures for you a higher grade of glory in Heaven.
And you are blessed also in your personal affairs and interests.
“If we only knew the worth of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass,with how much greater zeal we would listen it” (the Holy Cure of Ars).

“You must be aware, Christian, that the Mass is the most sacred act of religion: you can do nothing more glorious for God, nor more advantageous for your soul, that to piously and as frequently as possible attend Mass” (B.B Eymard)

“It is worth more to hear a single Mass that to distribute all your riches among the poor and to make pilgrimage throughout the whole earth” (St. Bernard).

A single Mass gives more honour to God than all the eminent virtues practiced by the just over all the Earth, and more that all the fervent praises expressed by the Saints and Angels in Heaven.

“the Lord grants us all we ask of him in the Holy Mass, and what’s more, He grants us even what we do not think of asking but which we also need! (St Girolamo).

“Be sure”, Jesus said to St. Gertrude, “that to the one who listens devoutly to the Holy Mass, in the last moments of life, I will send him many of my Saints to comfort and protect him, in accordance with the Masses he has attended well” (Book 3, chapter 16.)

The Holy Mass is the true insurance of the life of man.
Let us welcome the invitation of the Most Blessed Virgin who told us in Fatima “Many souls are lost because they have nobody to pray for them.” Let us then become intercessors for their salvation by offering to the Father the sacrifice of the Holy Mass where Christ is offered as a victim for the conversion and salvation of all men. So that the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary may come soon and that the world may live in the peace and love of Christ.

wolfsbane

gimmebroadband wrote: »

The Miraculous Value of the Holy Mass

“My son, if men only knew the value of the Holy Mass, they would be forever on their knees listening to it” (Padre Pio to Vittorio Chimetto)

“The Holy Mass is the renewal of the sacrifice of the Cross”. It is the sacrifice that detains Divine justice, that rules the entire Church, that saves the world.
In the hour of death, the Masses that you have devoutly attended will be your greatest consolation.
In each Mass the temporal suffering due to your sins is diminished in accordance with the degree of commitment you bring to it.
In each Mass, Jesus forgives you the venial sins you have not confessed but have repented.
In each Mass, Satan’s dominion over you is reduced.
One Mass heard by you in your life does more good than many that may be heard for you after your death.
In each Mass, you are given protection against dangers and misfortunes that would otherwise have befallen you.
With each Mass your time in Purgatory is reduced.
The Holy Sacrifice is the most effective of prayers, over and above all other prayers, good works and penance; by its own virtue it immediately and infallibly produces effect in favour of souls.
Each Mass procures for you a higher grade of glory in Heaven.
And you are blessed also in your personal affairs and interests.
“If we only knew the worth of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass,with how much greater zeal we would listen it” (the Holy Cure of Ars).

“You must be aware, Christian, that the Mass is the most sacred act of religion: you can do nothing more glorious for God, nor more advantageous for your soul, that to piously and as frequently as possible attend Mass” (B.B Eymard)

“It is worth more to hear a single Mass that to distribute all your riches among the poor and to make pilgrimage throughout the whole earth” (St. Bernard).

A single Mass gives more honour to God than all the eminent virtues practiced by the just over all the Earth, and more that all the fervent praises expressed by the Saints and Angels in Heaven.

“the Lord grants us all we ask of him in the Holy Mass, and what’s more, He grants us even what we do not think of asking but which we also need! (St Girolamo).

“Be sure”, Jesus said to St. Gertrude, “that to the one who listens devoutly to the Holy Mass, in the last moments of life, I will send him many of my Saints to comfort and protect him, in accordance with the Masses he has attended well” (Book 3, chapter 16.)

The Holy Mass is the true insurance of the life of man.
Let us welcome the invitation of the Most Blessed Virgin who told us in Fatima “Many souls are lost because they have nobody to pray for them.” Let us then become intercessors for their salvation by alvation of offering to the Father the sacrifice of the Holy Mass where Christ is offered as a victim for the conversion and sall men. So that the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary may come soon and that the world may live in the peace and love of Christ.

If any doubt the understanding of Catholics of the Mass, this should waken them up - “The Holy Mass is the renewal of the sacrifice of the Cross”; 'offering to the Father the sacrifice of the Holy Mass where Christ is offered as a victim'.

No wonder the 'Reformation Fathers declared that this reoffering of Christ for the remission of the pain or guilt of sin was a blasphemous fable and a dangerous deceit.'
http://www.imarc.cc/br/br2/wesley25ar20.htm

An interesting Catholic comment:
Problems with the New Rite of Ordination
http://www.catholicapologetics.info/modernproblems/vatican2/ordinal.htm

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Hebrews 9:25 not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another— 26 He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.

alex73

wolfsbane wrote: »

No wonder the 'Reformation Fathers declared that this reoffering of Christ for the remission of the pain or guilt of sin was a blasphemous fable and a dangerous deceit.'
http://www.imarc.cc/br/br2/wesley25ar20.htm

What did the reformation fathers reform the Church to? Yes there were popes, bishops and priests who were corrupt at the time. But the Mass preceded them, its been a constant in the Church for the beginning.

antiskeptic

alex73 wrote: »

What did the reformation fathers reform the Church to? Yes there were popes, bishops and priests who were corrupt at the time. But the Mass preceded them, its been a constant in the Church for the beginning.

Unless you can figure a way to morph the last supper into the Mass then you're out of luck.

The bible tells us about the beginning of the church and the Mass wasn't a feature of it.

Then again, given what's been pulled out of the magicians hat via "on this rock", I must suppose anything's possible.

alex73

antiskeptic wrote: »

Unless you can figure a way to morph the last supper into the Mass then you're out of luck.

The bible tells us about the beginning of the church and the Mass wasn't a feature of it.

Then again, given what's been pulled out of the magicians hat via "on this rock", I must suppose anything's possible.

For when the apostles left Israel they commemorated the last supper. Its an historical fact. They gather and broke bread as Christ did. That over the centuries we have added prayers to this, yes it has changed. But the central moment is the same.

And this has nothing to do with "On this Rock".... Go to Athos where the Mass dates even further back.

Onesimus

antiskeptic wrote: »

Unless you can figure a way to morph the last supper into the Mass then you're out of luck.

The bible tells us about the beginning of the church and the Mass wasn't a feature of it.

Then again, given what's been pulled out of the magicians hat via "on this rock", I must suppose anything's possible.

Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. [28] But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. [29] For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.

Does this passage puzzle you antiskeptic? right it should do.

antiskeptic

alex73 wrote: »

For when the apostles left Israel they commemorated the last supper. Its an historical fact. They gather and broke bread as Christ did. That over the centuries we have added prayers to this, yes it has changed. But the central moment is the same.

I was taking "the Mass" to mean the Mass, not a portion of if.

If you're talking of breaking of bread then indeed that travels back and the discussion is reduced to whether transubstantiation is biblical or not. Which is another discussion.

antiskeptic

Onesimus wrote: »

Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord. [28] But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of the chalice. [29] For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.

Does this passage puzzle you antiskeptic? right it should do.

What puzzles me is how someone can draw the kind of firm conclusion you probably draw from such archaic English.

Let me ask you: what meaning we can reasonably infer from the word-salad that is: "guilty of the body". Can I suggest absolutely none?

As for 'not discerning the body of the Lord'? It wouldn't be an utter shot in the dark to suppose that the translator might intend us to understand this as 'not discerning that the bread is the actual body of the Lord'. But as I (somewhat unsuccessfully) tried to point out to Donatello: remarkable doctrines like transsub require somewhat more remarkable evidence than oblique references like this.

alex73

antiskeptic wrote: »

I was taking "the Mass" to mean the Mass, not a portion of if.

If you're talking of breaking of bread then indeed that travels back and the discussion is reduced to whether transubstantiation is biblical or not. Which is another discussion.

Which mass?.... There are in the catholic church no less than 23 rites, each with its own mass. But all united in holding true the Eucharist, then in the orthodox ther are also many other rites.

What do you take the mass to be? It's all about celebrating Christs sacrifice, and at the centre is the Eucharist

antiskeptic

alex73 wrote: »

Which mass?....

The one up the road in the local church.

What do you take the mass to be? It's all about celebrating Christs sacrifice, and at the centre is the Eucharist

Yet there are all kinds of readings from the gospel which don't deal with Christs sacrifice. And what about the our father? That hasn't anything to do with Christs sacrifce?

alex73

antiskeptic wrote: »

The one up the road in the local church.

Yet there are all kinds of readings from the gospel which don't deal with Christs sacrifice. And what about the our father? That hasn't anything to do with Christs sacrifce?

The our father is from the bible. The prayers in the mass have evolved over the centuaries. But the essence of the mass hasn't changed.

gimmebroadband

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http://www.circleofprayer.com/eucharistic-miracles.html
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antiskeptic

alex73 wrote: »

The our father is from the bible. The prayers in the mass have evolved over the centuaries. But the essence of the mass hasn't changed.

Biblical componants or not, the Mass hasn't biblical-time church imprimateur. Nor is it all about the sacrifice.

There is no record of set prayers or set gospel readings, or set ordinances (such as the sign of peace). Or set incense burning, or set special garments, or set officiating ministers or set buildings in which the mass is carried out. Or set times at which it is carried out.

In short, the Mass is scripturally speaking, unrecognisable as an event (unless you are considering it's close alignment with OT temple worship practices)

antiskeptic

gimmebroadband wrote: »

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]For centuries there have been Eucharistic Miracles, generally occuring to dispel doubts of the true presence of the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ in Transubstantiation during the Consecration of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Sometimes they are for the benefit of a doubting Priest, sometimes for the benefit of all Catholics, and perhaps even for those of other denominations.

http://www.circleofprayer.com/eucharistic-miracles.html
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Scientific investigations have taken place since 1574. These are some of the conclusions:[/SIZE][/FONT]

• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]The Flesh is real Flesh.[/SIZE][/FONT]
• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]The Blood is real Blood.[/SIZE][/FONT]
• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]The Flesh consists of the muscular tissue of the heart.[/SIZE][/FONT]
• [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]The Flesh and Blood have in them AB type blood, the same blood type found in the Holy Shroud of Turin.

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How did they scientifically ascertain in 1574 that the blood was real blood?

How would they scientifically ascertain today that real blood was once wine?

Does this site understand what science is?

gimmebroadband

antiskeptic wrote: »

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How did they scientifically ascertain in 1574 that the blood was real blood?
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http://www.therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/lanciano.html

PDN

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