Davidnorris4president

Stop Press: Christian group claiming moral high ground use underhanded technique to spread bigotry and misinformation.

http://www.davidnorris4president.com/

I wasn't particularly inclined to vote for the man over anyone else at the start of the race but the more bile and vitriol these types of campaigns spit at the man the more I am inclined to vote for him.

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Deleted User wrote: »

I wasn't particularly inclined to vote for the man over anyone else at the start of the race but the more bile and vitriol these types of campaigns spit at the man the more I am inclined to vote for him.

You should be commended for such logic

Turtwig

Is it too hard to expect an honest Christian these days?

Mr. Enoch Burke isn't afraid of publishing such things, anyway. He openly gives his Facebook page, his address and contact number.

Judging from this and his other website (campaignforconscience.org) he appears to be a total bigot. What's scary is I'd thought people such as this weren't all that common, or at least vocal, in Ireland; I mean, he's not as bad as Westborough Baptist Church--the only difference between him and them being his slight tact.

Turtwig

gvn wrote: »

Mr. Enoch Burke isn't afraid of publishing such things, anyway. He openly gives his Facebook page, his address and contact number.

Judging from this and his other website (campaignforconscience.org) he appears to be a total bigot. What's scary is I'd thought people such as this weren't all that common, or at least vocal, in Ireland; I mean, he's not as bad as Westborough Baptist Church--the only difference between him and them being his slight tact.

Quick lightening Google threw up this.

he placard holders are members of one big family. When challenged by a pinstriped cyclist, 21-year-old Enoch Burke takes him on. “Well, where does Aids begin?” asks Enoch, following up with HIV figures from St James’s Hospital, to “prove” that homosexuals started it. “God help you,” says the cyclist mournfully. Enoch, who declined a place in medicine at University College Galway, is one of 10 children – all with biblical names – of Sean and Martina Burke from Castlebar, Co Mayo.

His brother Isaac is in third-year science in Galway. Esther is working for her HDip. Ammi hopes to study languages. The family belong to no particular sect. “We’re just a Christian church,” says Martina.

How do she and Sean find the time to support their large family and stand all day outside Leinster House? Sean, she says, was a qualified electrician, “and does a lot of different things now”. Martina, a qualified secondary teacher, “still does private tuition” for exam students. “Of course there are a thousand other things we could be doing. I could cry coming up,” she says, “but there’s a lot of unrest in the country, and the politicians are not representing the people.”

The Bible sustains them on the three- to four-hour drive from Castlebar two or three days a week, before they stand tall with their placards for up to nine hours a day.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2010/0710/1224274400543.html

I'll confess I haven't read the full article yet, nor am I going to. That is one ****ed up well intentioned family.

Jimmy Bottlehead

That site is pathetic. Truly pathetic. I almost pity the people who set it up, for their screw-up, limited, narrow-minded view of this world we live in.

mikemac

Prominent member of the Church of Ireland. Will his religious views be an issue for the A&A forum?

Are some looking for an atheist candidate?
Genuinely asking here

partyatmygaff

Malty_T wrote: »

Is it too hard to expect an honest Christian these days?

Is it too hard to expect a moral Atheist these days?



/Cue cries of "Don't generalise" and delicious irony.

Turtwig

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Is it too hard to expect a moral Atheist these days?



/Cue cries of "Don't generalise" and delicious irony.

Is it too hard to expect nothing more than empty rhetoric these days?

Wolfe Tone

mikemac wrote: »

Prominent member of the Church of Ireland. Will his religious views be an issue for the A&A forum?

And some looking for an atheist candidate?
Genuinely asking here

I doubt he would have many fans around here as he is a dedicated Christian.

Jimmy Bottlehead

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Is it too hard to expect a moral Atheist these days?



/Cue cries of "Don't generalise" and delicious irony.

Sorry can you repeat that? I couldn't hear you above the baby I was noisily eating.

Turtwig

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

I doubt he would have many fans around here as he is a dedicated Christian.

This might come as a shock to some people but many atheists do - take a deep breath - like some Christians. Kenneth Miller for instance is a hero to me. JD Barrow, is another person I like. There are even some Christians posters who I like reading. In Norris' case, I'm apathetic to Irish politics so couldn't really give a **** either way.

Turtwig

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

Sorry can you repeat that? I couldn't hear you above the baby I was noisily eating.

Don't speak with your mouth full! And eat with your mouth closed ffs!

partyatmygaff

Malty_T wrote: »

Is it too hard to expect nothing more than empty rhetoric these days?

Did you expect loaded rhetoric?



I don't really care much for who becomes President. It won't have any tangible effect on either the country or me. The only reason I posted was because of your generalisation.

rainbow kirby

gvn wrote: »

Mr. Enoch Burke isn't afraid of publishing such things, anyway. He openly gives his Facebook page, his address and contact number.

Judging from this and his other website (campaignforconscience.org) he appears to be a total bigot. What's scary is I'd thought people such as this weren't all that common, or at least vocal, in Ireland; I mean, he's not as bad as Westborough Baptist Church--the only difference between him and them being his slight tact.

And from listening to him speak, methinks we have a serious case of "the lady doth protest too much". :pac:

sponsoredwalk

Malty_T wrote: »

I'm apathetic to Irish politics so couldn't really give a **** either way.

Ah you see when it's working well politics is not supposed to be about politics:

A good president will bring personality to Phoenix Park and keep politics out.
http://www.davidnorris4president.com/

Just mention hope &/or change a lot while refraining from the man-boy love
comments & you get to be president some day son :cool:

philologos

OP: That's months old. Elections are really simple, just vote for the person who you think is best for the job based on their credentials.

CiaranMT

philologos wrote: »

OP: That's months old. Elections are really simple, just vote for the person who you think is best for the job based on their credentials.

I thought I'd seen it before...

Zillah

There are quite a few gems on that site. Here's my favourite though:

"Furthermore, statistics also show that there are very high rates of sexual promiscuity among the homosexual population, with many of them having up to ten thousand partners in a lifetime."

This would require a person to have a different sexual partner once per day, every day, for almost thirty years.

Zillah

Zillah wrote: »

This would require a person to have a different sexual partner once per day, every day, for almost thirty years.

That's just how the gays roll.

Zombrex

Seems to be the work of this guy

A closet homosexual if I ever saw one (sorry Boards.ie for the soon to be coming libel suit :pac:)

strobe

Zillah wrote: »

This would require a person to have a different sexual partner once per day, every day, for almost thirty years.

I'm in. Where do I sign up?

Zillah

strobe wrote: »

I'm in. Where do I sign up?

From what I've heard, the gays are constantly trying to recruit, so there has to be a recruitment centre or something like that near you.

I wouldn't recommend it though. I signed up and I haven't even gotten a copy of this agenda I keep hearing about.

Wicknight wrote: »

What is he, twelve?

CiaranMT

He has 29 followers. I think we can let this kid slide off into obscurity.

Zombrex

The Web - Allowing crazy people to think people actually care about what they say since 1993

sponsoredwalk

The little kid seems absolutely transfixed by the gay man he's been
keeping an eye on for the past few months :pac:

rccaulfield

emailed them there and said i wasn't gonna vote for Norris but now i am!

Pace2008

During a TV3 interview last August, This is... With Ursula Halligan, David Norris claimed that “the worst homophobia comes from the Christian churches.”

statistics also show that there are very high rates of sexual promiscuity among the homosexual population, with many of them having up to ten thousand partners in a lifetime.

“principled objection” would be a far better term than the more derogatory and misleading “homophobic,”

Principled objection is the greatest euphemism I've ever heard in my life.

Pace2008

Pace2008 wrote: »

Principled objection is the greatest euphemism I've ever heard in my life.

Sorta like how nations with "Democratic" in the name, aren't.

Turtwig

Wicknight wrote: »

The Web - Allowing crazy people to think people actually care about what they say since 1993

Thanks for bursting my bubble.:(

smokingman

Well I'm voting for the man for a few reasons....

1) I like him. He's a witty, funny guy I had the pleasure to meet when I was in college.

2) Having a gay man as the president of our country would show a lot of countries that, despite the historical catholic mindset, we Irish are one of the most progressive types in the world - something I have a strong belief in.

3) I think he would be excellent in representing our nation to other countries across the globe.

Turtwig

Well seen as Smokie chimed in. Here's my two cent.

The President of Ireland is really an unimportant position and so if we can help the cause of LGBT worldwide by having an openly gay President. Then I'll vote for him. Unless of course someone can point out my ignorance and show how the President is an important position.:D

robindch

smokingman wrote: »

3) I think he would be excellent in representing our nation to other countries across the globe.

Something of a Zaphod Beeblebrox-style president, almost

smokingman

robindch wrote: »

Something of a Zaphod Beeblebrox-style president, almost

Just don't ask him to show you his other head

Undergod

Homosexuality is...

5. Is a lifestyle for which there is no genetic evidence.

That's a beautifully meaningless sentence.

Beruthiel

rccaulfield wrote: »

emailed them there and said i wasn't gonna vote for Norris but now i am!

Me too.
I congratulated him on helping me make up my mind. Heh.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Did the same. By some hilarious coincidence this was the word I had to type in the verification form...

Jimmy Bottlehead

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